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Re: The futility, of trying to accommodate moslems
Reply #45 - Oct 5th, 2013 at 6:01pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 5th, 2013 at 4:23pm:
Soren wrote on Oct 5th, 2013 at 1:35pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 4th, 2013 at 4:03pm:
Soren wrote on Oct 4th, 2013 at 11:15am:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 1st, 2013 at 11:49am:
now that you have been unable to prove that it is illegal to either worship Satan or an Idol in Mecca.



Non-Muslims are banned from Mecca. They are prohibited from entering Mecca. Koran 9:28.


Geddit?



Nope.  You'll have toe explain your reasoning, Soren.    Roll Eyes



I just did, with text reference and picture. That you are too thick or too spineless to do anything but pretend to be too thick is something for you to deal with.

I have given you the info and the Koranic basis of it. I am not here to accommodate your shifty, cowardly spinelessness.



So, somehow, a road sign in Saudi Arabia explains how it is illegal in Australia to worship Satan or idols?

Soren, you have surpassed yourself!   Your Islamophobia appears to know no bounds.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



You said Mecca, numpty.
Non Muslims, and that includes Satan worshippers, are not allowed into the place: Koran 9:28.

Don't pretend to be SO thick, on top of being spineless.



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Re: The futility, of trying to accommodate moslems
Reply #46 - Oct 5th, 2013 at 9:37pm
 
Soren wrote on Oct 5th, 2013 at 6:01pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 5th, 2013 at 4:23pm:
Soren wrote on Oct 5th, 2013 at 1:35pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 4th, 2013 at 4:03pm:
Soren wrote on Oct 4th, 2013 at 11:15am:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 1st, 2013 at 11:49am:
now that you have been unable to prove that it is illegal to either worship Satan or an Idol in Mecca.



Non-Muslims are banned from Mecca. They are prohibited from entering Mecca. Koran 9:28.


Geddit?



Nope.  You'll have toe explain your reasoning, Soren.    Roll Eyes



I just did, with text reference and picture. That you are too thick or too spineless to do anything but pretend to be too thick is something for you to deal with.

I have given you the info and the Koranic basis of it. I am not here to accommodate your shifty, cowardly spinelessness.



So, somehow, a road sign in Saudi Arabia explains how it is illegal in Australia to worship Satan or idols?

Soren, you have surpassed yourself!   Your Islamophobia appears to know no bounds.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



You said Mecca, numpty.


Did I, Soren?  Then you should have absolutely no problem providing a quote and a link to where I said it.  I look forward to you doing so.  Failure though, will of course indicate that you are lying, Soren.   Roll Eyes

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Non Muslims, and that includes Satan worshippers, are not allowed into the place: Koran 9:28.

Don't pretend to be SO thick, on top of being spineless.



Yes, but that was not I was talking about, which is why I asked you for an explanation, Soren.  I was obviously discussing Yadda's claim that all Muslims are criminal because they worship Satan and idols.   You introduced Mecca, no one else did at which point I asked for some form of explanation.

Soren, it is obvious your Islamophobia controls your thinking on this issue...    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: The futility, of trying to accommodate moslems
Reply #47 - Oct 6th, 2013 at 12:12am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 5th, 2013 at 9:37pm:
Soren wrote on Oct 5th, 2013 at 6:01pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 5th, 2013 at 4:23pm:
Soren wrote on Oct 5th, 2013 at 1:35pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 4th, 2013 at 4:03pm:
Soren wrote on Oct 4th, 2013 at 11:15am:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 1st, 2013 at 11:49am:
now that you have been unable to prove that it is illegal to either worship Satan or an Idol in Mecca.



Non-Muslims are banned from Mecca. They are prohibited from entering Mecca. Koran 9:28.


Geddit?



Nope.  You'll have toe explain your reasoning, Soren.    Roll Eyes



I just did, with text reference and picture. That you are too thick or too spineless to do anything but pretend to be too thick is something for you to deal with.

I have given you the info and the Koranic basis of it. I am not here to accommodate your shifty, cowardly spinelessness.



So, somehow, a road sign in Saudi Arabia explains how it is illegal in Australia to worship Satan or idols?

Soren, you have surpassed yourself!   Your Islamophobia appears to know no bounds.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



You said Mecca, numpty.


Did I, Soren?  Then you should have absolutely no problem providing a quote and a link to where I said it.  I look forward to you doing so.  Failure though, will of course indicate that you are lying, Soren.   Roll Eyes


Not so. I even highlighted your quote.
Here it is again. You were talking to Yadda:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 1st, 2013 at 11:49am:
    now that you have been unable to prove that it is illegal to either worship Satan or an Idol in Mecca.




You were gloating that Yadda was unable to prove that it is illegal to satan or idol worship in Mecca.

Gandy even told you it was totally off-limit.
But you insist - because the aleternative would be to admit that you said a silly thing. But it looks like you'd rather die in a ditch than concede your own silliness.






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Re: The futility, of trying to accommodate moslems
Reply #48 - Oct 6th, 2013 at 1:48am
 
Ah, my friends, it is a silly world, isn’t it. It is a very potty place, you see.
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Re: The futility, of trying to accommodate moslems
Reply #49 - Oct 7th, 2013 at 11:32pm
 
Soren wrote on Oct 6th, 2013 at 12:12am:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 5th, 2013 at 9:37pm:
Soren wrote on Oct 5th, 2013 at 6:01pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 5th, 2013 at 4:23pm:
Soren wrote on Oct 5th, 2013 at 1:35pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 4th, 2013 at 4:03pm:
Soren wrote on Oct 4th, 2013 at 11:15am:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 1st, 2013 at 11:49am:
now that you have been unable to prove that it is illegal to either worship Satan or an Idol in Mecca.



Non-Muslims are banned from Mecca. They are prohibited from entering Mecca. Koran 9:28.


Geddit?



Nope.  You'll have toe explain your reasoning, Soren.    Roll Eyes



I just did, with text reference and picture. That you are too thick or too spineless to do anything but pretend to be too thick is something for you to deal with.

I have given you the info and the Koranic basis of it. I am not here to accommodate your shifty, cowardly spinelessness.



So, somehow, a road sign in Saudi Arabia explains how it is illegal in Australia to worship Satan or idols?

Soren, you have surpassed yourself!   Your Islamophobia appears to know no bounds.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



You said Mecca, numpty.


Did I, Soren?  Then you should have absolutely no problem providing a quote and a link to where I said it.  I look forward to you doing so.  Failure though, will of course indicate that you are lying, Soren.   Roll Eyes


Not so. I even highlighted your quote.
Here it is again. You were talking to Yadda:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 1st, 2013 at 11:49am:
    now that you have been unable to prove that it is illegal to either worship Satan or an Idol in Mecca.


You were gloating that Yadda was unable to prove that it is illegal to satan or idol worship in Mecca.

Gandy even told you it was totally off-limit.
But you insist - because the aleternative would be to admit that you said a silly thing. But it looks like you'd rather die in a ditch than concede your own silliness.


Oh, dear, Soren, you are getting desperate.  It is obvious from the context that the way that sentence should be read is "now that you have been unable to prove that it is illegal to either worship Satan or idol worship in Mecca."   You really need to learn how to read English.   The "either...or" indicates an alternative, not a continuation.   Roll Eyes

Keep trying, it's amusing watching your attempts to attack me.   Grin
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Reply #50 - Oct 11th, 2013 at 7:06pm
 
Sorry bwian but Muslims don't want accommodation...  they want submission.
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Reply #51 - Oct 11th, 2013 at 8:58pm
 
Grendel wrote on Oct 11th, 2013 at 7:06pm:
Sorry bwian but Muslims don't want accommodation...  they want submission.


You claim to speak authoritatively but on what basis do you make such a claim?  Have you asked every Muslim their opinion?  Or are you merely relying on your own prejudices reinforced by those of other Islamophobes'?   Roll Eyes
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Reply #52 - Oct 11th, 2013 at 10:19pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 11th, 2013 at 8:58pm:
Grendel wrote on Oct 11th, 2013 at 7:06pm:
Sorry bwian but Muslims don't want accommodation...  they want submission.


You claim to speak authoritatively but on what basis do you make such a claim?  Have you asked every Muslim their opinion?  Or are you merely relying on your own prejudices reinforced by those of other Islamophobes'?   Roll Eyes


Weally?
Care to provide the quote?
Have you asked every Christian bwian?
You do make stupid statements in your efforts to dissemble.
Are you being a hypocrite again?

Perhaps you should start asking questions...  they can explain what the word Islam means/stands for.
Perhaps you could ask them about apostasy.
Many Muslims I know who consider themselves moderate, all agree that the ultimate goal of Islam is; human development, welfare and prosperity in peace and security.  In accordance to the Koran and the teachings of Allah...  Al-Islam...  absolute submission to them. (By everyone bwian...  everyone...  one big happy Islamic world)
I can tell you bwian... and you can ask the Muslims here.
But since you aren't a Muslim, they don't have to tell you the truth.
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Reply #53 - Oct 11th, 2013 at 11:00pm
 
is calling Brian "Bwian" meant to be some clever insult?
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Reply #54 - Oct 11th, 2013 at 11:45pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 11th, 2013 at 11:00pm:
is calling Brian "Bwian" meant to be some clever insult?


It is merely a childish effort to try and insult me.  Heard it and much worse all before.   Resorting to such childish ad hominem merely shows they've lost the debate.   Roll Eyes
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Re: The futility, of trying to accommodate moslems
Reply #55 - Oct 12th, 2013 at 2:15am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 28th, 2013 at 11:59am:
Yadda wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 11:15pm:
True Colours wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 10:44pm:


READ THE MESSAGE DISPLAYED IN THE IMAGE
This IMAGE reflects that moslems are offended,
because some US citizen is offended,
because Obama and all USA politicians are appeasing ISLAM and the moslem community in the USA [and this US citizen is expressing his civic 'concern' inappropriately].....
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_CoN-0dL6_hY/SNptMD53_MI/AAAAAAAAAU8/W6QDhlpk-fM/s400/p...


You really don't get the irony of what the image says, do you, Yadda?

You do know what "muslin" is, don't you?

Or are you as poorly educated as the person who scrawled it?

Muslims aren't offended by it, they like all educated people are mystified by it.   Grin Grin


Why do you continue to defend people who display offensive messages, actually committing an unlawful act? Regardless of whether this could be a photoshopped attempt at defamation, or whether the message is actually real and genuine. You shouldn't jump in to defend this fool (whoever he might be, or whatever he meant), just because "not ALL muslims think this way" is your first defense of the situation.
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Reply #56 - Oct 12th, 2013 at 2:23am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 11th, 2013 at 11:45pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 11th, 2013 at 11:00pm:
is calling Brian "Bwian" meant to be some clever insult?


It is merely a childish effort to try and insult me.  Heard it and much worse all before.   Resorting to such childish ad hominem merely shows they've lost the debate.   Roll Eyes


I always considered it some kind of homage to the character in the "Life of Brian", where Brian is the well-meaning character who gets misunderstood with his intentions, and eventually has to pay the price for it. I think that one of the Monty Python clan who played the Roman consul, would pronounce Brian's name as "Bwian". Hilarious reference after the fact that the consul "wequested" that the executioners "welease Wodger" for the sake of displaying compassion towards the people.
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Reply #57 - Oct 12th, 2013 at 11:47am
 
Grendel wrote on Oct 11th, 2013 at 10:19pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 11th, 2013 at 8:58pm:
Grendel wrote on Oct 11th, 2013 at 7:06pm:
Sorry bwian but Muslims don't want accommodation...  they want submission.


You claim to speak authoritatively but on what basis do you make such a claim?  Have you asked every Muslim their opinion?  Or are you merely relying on your own prejudices reinforced by those of other Islamophobes'?   Roll Eyes


Weally?
Care to provide the quote?
Have you asked every Christian bwian?
You do make stupid statements in your efforts to dissemble.
Are you being a hypocrite again?

Perhaps you should start asking questions...  they can explain what the word Islam means/stands for.
Perhaps you could ask them about apostasy.
Many Muslims I know who consider themselves moderate, all agree that the ultimate goal of Islam is; human development, welfare and prosperity in peace and security.  In accordance to the Koran and the teachings of Allah...  Al-Islam...  absolute submission to them. (By everyone bwian...  everyone...  one big happy Islamic world)
I can tell you bwian... and you can ask the Muslims here.
But since you aren't a Muslim, they don't have to tell you the truth.


Still waiting bwian...  or have you wunaway wunaway fwom this one again?
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Reply #58 - Oct 12th, 2013 at 11:48am
 
Obviously your bait isn't working!   Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy
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Reply #59 - Oct 12th, 2013 at 5:54pm
 
|dev|null wrote on Oct 12th, 2013 at 11:48am:
Obviously your bait isn't working!   Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy


Obviously bwian and you are avoiding the obvious.
That's your modus operandi...
But I'm a pretty patient person.

My bait is debate... something you both are trying desperately to avoid it seems.
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