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Reply #45 - Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:19pm

# wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:09pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:04pm:

# wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 8:56pm:

... So far, no credible or reliable evidence exists to support the theory. ...

The vast majority of the best qualified say otherwise. Scepticism is a rational philosophy. What is the rational basis of your denial?

You didn't answer my question.
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Of course not. I regard it as trolling - an attempt to distract.

A perfectly legitimate question.

Could your theory be wrong?

Why are you so frightened to answer such a simple question?

What do you have to hide?

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Re: Tony's climate agenda worrying, says David Suzuki.
Reply #46 - Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:19pm

Rider wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:13pm:

# wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 8:56pm:

... So far, no credible or reliable evidence exists to support the theory. ...

The vast majority of the best qualified say otherwise. Scepticism is a rational philosophy. What is the rational basis of your denial?

Clearly your researching skills don't extend to google (give it a go, even old people can use it)...still hanging onto the 97% nonsense from Cooke...wake up and smell the roses old matey

If I can google it, so can you. Why should I allow myself to be roped in by your time-wasting tricks?

The studies referenced on skepticalscience are the most credible available.

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Re: Tony's climate agenda worrying, says David Suzuki.
Reply #47 - Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:21pm

# wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:19pm:

Rider wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:13pm:

# wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 8:56pm:

... So far, no credible or reliable evidence exists to support the theory. ...

The vast majority of the best qualified say otherwise. Scepticism is a rational philosophy. What is the rational basis of your denial?

Clearly your researching skills don't extend to google (give it a go, even old people can use it)...still hanging onto the 97% nonsense from Cooke...wake up and smell the roses old matey

If I can google it, so can you. Why should I allow myself to be roped in by your time-wasting tricks?

Could the AGW theory be wrong?

Yes or no?

What are you running from?

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Reply #48 - Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:27pm

All that matters is which policy can meet our carbon emission reductions most affectively at the cheapest cost.....Both major parties have the same commitment to reduce our emissions and what is required is a debate on the best way to meet this target.....

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The second commitment period of the Kyoto Protocol will commence on 1 January 2013 and end in 2020. Australia has agreed a Kyoto target to reduce its emissions in line with the bipartisan target of reducing emissions to five per cent below 2000 levels by 2020.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/fact-checker/theres-a-hole-in-the-coaliti...

http://www.businessspectator.com.au/news/2013/9/23/policy-politics/direct-action...

http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/carbon-target-ma...

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Re: Tony's climate agenda worrying, says David Suzuki.
Reply #49 - Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:36pm

# wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:19pm:

Rider wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:13pm:

# wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 8:56pm:

... So far, no credible or reliable evidence exists to support the theory. ...

The vast majority of the best qualified say otherwise. Scepticism is a rational philosophy. What is the rational basis of your denial?

Clearly your researching skills don't extend to google (give it a go, even old people can use it)...still hanging onto the 97% nonsense from Cooke...wake up and smell the roses old matey

If I can google it, so can you. Why should I allow myself to be roped in by your time-wasting tricks?

The studies referenced on skepticalscience are the most credible available.

The quoted study is a meaningless and substantially debunked concoction of mistruths and fluffery. Look it up and get a life old timer.

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Re: Tony's climate agenda worrying, says David Suzuki.
Reply #50 - Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:39pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:21pm:

# wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:19pm:

Rider wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:13pm:

# wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 8:56pm:

... So far, no credible or reliable evidence exists to support the theory. ...

The vast majority of the best qualified say otherwise. Scepticism is a rational philosophy. What is the rational basis of your denial?

Clearly your researching skills don't extend to google (give it a go, even old people can use it)...still hanging onto the 97% nonsense from Cooke...wake up and smell the roses old matey

If I can google it, so can you. Why should I allow myself to be roped in by your time-wasting tricks?

Could the AGW theory be wrong?

Yes or no?

What are you running from?

Both major political parties agree AGW is real and action is required to reduce emissions by 5% on 2000 levels.....People who dent AGW have no political support and are not supported by reputable organisations like NASA the CSIRO and IPCC who provide detailed analysis of their findings to support AGW.....All that matters is which policy will work!!!

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Re: Tony's climate agenda worrying, says David Suzuki.
Reply #51 - Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:42pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:21pm:

# wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:19pm:

Rider wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:13pm:

# wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 8:56pm:

... So far, no credible or reliable evidence exists to support the theory. ...

The vast majority of the best qualified say otherwise. Scepticism is a rational philosophy. What is the rational basis of your denial?

Clearly your researching skills don't extend to google (give it a go, even old people can use it)...still hanging onto the 97% nonsense from Cooke...wake up and smell the roses old matey

If I can google it, so can you. Why should I allow myself to be roped in by your time-wasting tricks?

Could the AGW theory be wrong?
...

In principle, all things are possible. The question is one of probabilities. On balance, the majority is usually right. Studies referenced on skepticalscience are the most credible indicator of the consensus.

I take it you concede that you have no rational basis for your denial.

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Re: Tony's climate agenda worrying, says David Suzuki.
Reply #52 - Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:43pm

# wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:21pm:

# wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:19pm:

Rider wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:13pm:

# wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 8:56pm:

... So far, no credible or reliable evidence exists to support the theory. ...

The vast majority of the best qualified say otherwise. Scepticism is a rational philosophy. What is the rational basis of your denial?

Clearly your researching skills don't extend to google (give it a go, even old people can use it)...still hanging onto the 97% nonsense from Cooke...wake up and smell the roses old matey

If I can google it, so can you. Why should I allow myself to be roped in by your time-wasting tricks?

Could the AGW theory be wrong?
...

In principle, all things are possible.

At last, we got there.

There is the very real possibility that AGW is not real.

Well done.

I knew you could do it.

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# Gold Member Offline A fool is certain: an ignorant fool, absolutely so Posts: 2603	Re: Tony's climate agenda worrying, says David Suzuki. Reply #53 - Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:43pm Rider wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:36pm: ... The quoted study is a meaningless and substantially debunked concoction of mistruths and fluffery. ... If so, then you'll have no difficulty substantiating your assertion.
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Re: Tony's climate agenda worrying, says David Suzuki.
Reply #54 - Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:45pm

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:39pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:21pm:

# wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:19pm:

Rider wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:13pm:

# wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 8:56pm:

... So far, no credible or reliable evidence exists to support the theory. ...

The vast majority of the best qualified say otherwise. Scepticism is a rational philosophy. What is the rational basis of your denial?

Clearly your researching skills don't extend to google (give it a go, even old people can use it)...still hanging onto the 97% nonsense from Cooke...wake up and smell the roses old matey

If I can google it, so can you. Why should I allow myself to be roped in by your time-wasting tricks?

Could the AGW theory be wrong?

Yes or no?

What are you running from?

Both major political parties agree AGW is real and action is required to reduce emissions by 5% on 2000 levels.....People who dent AGW have no political support and are not supported by reputable organisations like NASA the CSIRO and IPCC who provide detailed analysis of their findings to support AGW.....All that matters is which policy will work!!!

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I don't "dent" AGW.

Nor do I deny the possibility that the theory is correct. I have an open mind.

I'm sceptical of the AGW theory though.

Understand?

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# Gold Member Offline A fool is certain: an ignorant fool, absolutely so Posts: 2603	Re: Tony's climate agenda worrying, says David Suzuki. Reply #55 - Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:47pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:43pm: ... There is the very real possibility that AGW is not real. ... The vast majority of the best qualified say that it's real. So what is the probability?
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Reply #56 - Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:49pm

# wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:43pm:

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There is the very real possibility that AGW is not real.
...

The vast majority of the best qualified say that it's real. So what is the probability?

Stick to the scientific method, and you'll be taken a little more seriously.

Consensus is not part of the scientific method.

We're talking science here, not popular opinion.

Cheers.

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# Gold Member Offline A fool is certain: an ignorant fool, absolutely so Posts: 2603	Re: Tony's climate agenda worrying, says David Suzuki. Reply #57 - Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:49pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:45pm: ... I'm sceptical of the AGW theory ... What is the rational basis of your scepticism? If you are a true sceptic, then you'll have no problem substantiating your scepticism.
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Re: Tony's climate agenda worrying, says David Suzuki.
Reply #58 - Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:50pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:45pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:39pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:21pm:

# wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:19pm:

Rider wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:13pm:

# wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 8:56pm:

... So far, no credible or reliable evidence exists to support the theory. ...

The vast majority of the best qualified say otherwise. Scepticism is a rational philosophy. What is the rational basis of your denial?

Clearly your researching skills don't extend to google (give it a go, even old people can use it)...still hanging onto the 97% nonsense from Cooke...wake up and smell the roses old matey

If I can google it, so can you. Why should I allow myself to be roped in by your time-wasting tricks?

Could the AGW theory be wrong?

Yes or no?

What are you running from?

Both major political parties agree AGW is real and action is required to reduce emissions by 5% on 2000 levels.....People who dent AGW have no political support and are not supported by reputable organisations like NASA the CSIRO and IPCC who provide detailed analysis of their findings to support AGW.....All that matters is which policy will work!!!

Roll Eyes

I don't "dent" AGW.

Nor do I deny the possibility that the theory is correct. I have an open mind.

I'm sceptical of the AGW theory though.

Understand?

What you believe is pretty much irrelevant in the context of Australia's carbon emissions and how we deal with them.....Tell me Greg, which policy do you support to reduce emissions and why???

Huh

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Re: Tony's climate agenda worrying, says David Suzuki.
Reply #59 - Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:52pm

# wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:45pm:

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I'm sceptical of the AGW theory ...

What is the rational basis of your scepticism? If you are a true sceptic, then you'll have no problem substantiating your scepticism.

There's not enough reliable, credible, or convincing evidence to support the AGW theory.

I remain open minded though (unlike mindless sheep like yourself).

Next question.

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