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Sep 25th, 2013 at 8:20pm
 
HSBC: Australian economy badly exposed to climate


By Giles Parkinson on 25 September 2013


As Prime Minister Tony Abbott continues his campaign to wind back climate change policies and institutions, a new report has highlighted how Australia has suffered the most dramatic increase in climate vulnerability of any G20 country in the past two years.

The assessment by climate change analysts at investment bank HSBC – released ahead of the IPCC report later this week – says Australia has recorded the biggest increase in temperatures of any G20 country, the second worst deterioration in water availability, and has the second higher cost per GDP from extreme weather events.

Australia’s ranking among G20 nations most vulnerable to climate change has plunged 5 places from 10th to 5th in the last two years, leapfrogging Indonesia, China, Mexico, Italy and South Korea

The top three countries exposed to temperature changes, water stress and extreme events remain Saudi  Arabia, India and South Africa.

But Australia’s position has dramatically worsened since 2011 because it has recorded the biggest difference in temperatures among G20 nations, and the second worst deterioration in water availability behind the Saudis.

On another measure, sensitivity to climate change, Australia also ranks badly, second behind China.

Climate sensitivity means the degree to which a country can be affected by an extreme weather event both in humanitarian and in economic terms. Three criteria are measured: the number of deaths from weather events; the cost of the event in terms of GDP; and the number of people affected.

HSBC said that Australia pays the second highest cost per GDP (0.24 per cent) on extreme weather events, behind only China. And its overall sensitivity had worsened two places. In 2011, the Indian, Chinese and Russian economies were deemed to be the most sensitive to climate change. Now the top three three are China, Australia and Russia.

The one positive assessment for Australia came in HSBC’s assessment of the ability of each country to adapt to changes. Because of Australia’s strong economy, its low debt, its strong rule of law, lack of corruption and levels of tertiary education, Australia is considered to have the best capacity to adapt to these changes – ahead of other rich nations Canada, US and the UK.

HSBC said that a country with higher GDP and lower debt levels would be able to channel more available capital towards climate adaptation and “climate proofing” their country. “Where the “rule of law is strong, and corruption tends to be lower, and a higher rate of further education is in place, the potential for making positive behavioural changes among the general population is higher,” it notes.

That meant that on its assessment of overall vulnerability to climate change, Australia ranks as the14h most exposed country, slipping just one place. In effect, it has the resources to buy or build its way out of the worst impacts.

The country’s with the least ability to adapt are its neighbour to the north, Indonesia, and China and India.  These three countries remained the most vulnerable to climate change on the overall score.

“In terms of absolute vulnerability, our analysis shows that countries are becoming marginally more exposed to climate change: temperatures continue to rise, water resources are being depleted and extreme events are occurring,” HSBC writes.

“In our view, evaluating country vulnerabilities to the climate factor is a critical tool for risk management, informing both asset allocation and the understanding of pressures along global value chains.”
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Reply #1 - Sep 25th, 2013 at 8:29pm
 
LMFAO so you believe bankers but not prominent scientists that dispute the findings of the pseudo science of the IPCC.

I would bet my hedge fund that all they're interested in is getting the carbon credit derivatives market up and running.

After that they will be as quite as a mouse when it comes to manmade CO2 emissions.

Temperature looks all right to me.

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Reply #2 - Sep 26th, 2013 at 10:18am
 
Ajax wrote on Sep 25th, 2013 at 8:29pm:
LMFAO so you believe bankers ...
On the economy, yes.

Ajax wrote on Sep 25th, 2013 at 8:29pm:
... but not prominent scientists that dispute the findings of the pseudo science of the IPCC.
The far greater proportion who support the IPCC's findings, I do.

Ajax wrote on Sep 25th, 2013 at 8:29pm:
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Temperature looks all right to me.
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I don't pretend to be qualified to judge the science. What are your qualifications?
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Reply #3 - Sep 26th, 2013 at 12:06pm
 
# wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 10:18am:
On the economy, yes.


Well I hope you didn't lose too much during the 2008 GFC.

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The far greater proportion who support the IPCC's findings, I do.


delusion is a disorder previously called paranoia.

Don't worry pal the Earth is just fine nothing is going to happen to it for the next 5 billion odd years or so.

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I don't pretend to be qualified to judge the science. What are your qualifications?


Do you know why its so easy to knock the IPCC's pseudo science on the head everytime........?????

Because its bullsh!t....................!!!!!

All you need is common sense..........!!!!!!
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Reply #4 - Sep 26th, 2013 at 2:13pm
 
Ajax wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 12:06pm:
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Do you know why its so easy to knock the IPCC's pseudo science on the head everytime........?????

Because its bullsh!t....................!!!!!

All you need is common sense..........!!!!!!

No. That assertion reveals only your extreme ignorance.

As Dunning and Kruger proposed; for a given skill, incompetent people will:
  1. tend to overestimate their own level of skill;
  2. fail to recognize genuine skill in others;
  3. fail to recognize the extremity of their inadequacy.

I've learned enough to recognise the complexity of climate science. I certainly don't know enough, nor am I fool enough, to believe that I know better than the vast majority of the best qualified.
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Reply #5 - Sep 26th, 2013 at 2:46pm
 
Ajax is suffering from the over-confidence problem!

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Reply #6 - Sep 26th, 2013 at 4:22pm
 
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 2:46pm:
Ajax is suffering from the over-confidence problem!

Ajax is playing with my kids lives and I don't like it  Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked


Methinks it's time for revolution!!!!


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Reply #7 - Sep 26th, 2013 at 6:59pm
 
Ajax wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 4:22pm:
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 2:46pm:
Ajax is suffering from the over-confidence problem!

Ajax is playing with my kids lives and I don't like it  Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked


Methinks it's time for revolution!!!!


http://i44.tinypic.com/25qzosz.png

wow, Ajax is getting out the big guns  Roll Eyes
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Reply #8 - Sep 26th, 2013 at 7:12pm
 
What does UAH stand for Ajax ?  Grin

You do know, don't you?

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Reply #9 - Sep 26th, 2013 at 8:02pm
 
The umm IPCC has a section of predictions for a lot of countries, including Australia and New Zealand. If the draft is accurate, then they're pretty much saying; our temperature will increase the same as the global mean, we will have less winter rain falls and more droughts. Quote: "Decreases on the order of 10% are projected for southern Australia by the end of the century, under RCP4.5." - Referring to precipitation.

There's nothing there freaking out about the coast or great barrier reef, which is interesting. Though I did find that crop yields are going to go up pretty high with c02 so that's cool.

http://ecoethics.net/cyprus-institute.us/PDF/Rosensweig-Food-Supply.pdf
http://www.stopgreensuicide.com/Ch14_future-regional_WG1AR5_SOD_Ch14_All_Final.pdf
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Reply #10 - Sep 26th, 2013 at 8:18pm
 
Vuk11 wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 8:02pm:
The umm IPCC has a section of predictions for a lot of countries, including Australia and New Zealand. If the draft is accurate, then they're pretty much saying; our temperature will increase the same as the global mean, we will have less winter rain falls and more droughts. Quote: "Decreases on the order of 10% are projected for southern Australia by the end of the century, under RCP4.5." - Referring to precipitation.

There's nothing there freaking out about the coast or great barrier reef, which is interesting. Though I did find that crop yields are going to go up pretty high with c02 so that's cool.

http://ecoethics.net/cyprus-institute.us/PDF/Rosensweig-Food-Supply.pdf
http://www.stopgreensuicide.com/Ch14_future-regional_WG1AR5_SOD_Ch14_All_Final.pdf


The Working Group II Report is what you need. The final version isn't out until March next year. Here is the link for the relevant chapter from AR4: 

http://www.ipcc.ch/publications_and_data/ar4/wg2/en/ch11.html


I understand that AR5 will no longer consider the same range of emission scenarios.  Nobody can predict what the actual emission scenarios will be. That's the biggest stumbling block for predictions.
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Reply #11 - Sep 26th, 2013 at 9:21pm
 
Vuk11 wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 8:02pm:
. Though I did find that crop yields are going to go up pretty high with c02 so that's cool.



Crop yield relates to the mass of crop grown per land area.

This agricultural indicator can go up or down locally whilst the total crop output can decrease overall.

And one can expect crop output will decrease with falling precipitation rates. (very sensitive to rain fall)

And guess where Australias major food growth bowl is? Northern Victoria, southern NSW right on the Murray. And this is the area which will be hit with the biggest reductions in seasonal rainfall

So what you claim as "cool" is actually a matter of urgency and concern for Australian farmers and our food growing and export capacity as a nation
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Reply #12 - Sep 26th, 2013 at 10:48pm
 
Chimp_Logic wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 9:21pm:
Vuk11 wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 8:02pm:
. Though I did find that crop yields are going to go up pretty high with c02 so that's cool.



Crop yield relates to the mass of crop grown per land area.

This agricultural indicator can go up or down locally whilst the total crop output can decrease overall.

And one can expect crop output will decrease with falling precipitation rates. (very sensitive to rain fall)

And guess where Australias major food growth bowl is? Northern Victoria, southern NSW right on the Murray. And this is the area which will be hit with the biggest reductions in seasonal rainfall

So what you claim as "cool" is actually a matter of urgency and concern for Australian farmers and our food growing and export capacity as a nation


Did you check out the links? It seems south Australia will be the biggest hit by the reduction in rainfall and they're predicting 10% decrease after the better part of a century. Whilst the top link about c02 and crop yields is looking at what looks to be 10-30% increase across all of Australia if levels hit 555ppm.
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Reply #13 - Sep 28th, 2013 at 1:51am
 
Vuk11 wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 8:02pm:
The umm IPCC has a section of predictions for a lot of countries, including Australia and New Zealand. If the draft is accurate, then they're pretty much saying; our temperature will increase the same as the global mean, we will have less winter rain falls and more droughts. Quote: "Decreases on the order of 10% are projected for southern Australia by the end of the century, under RCP4.5." - Referring to precipitation.

There's nothing there freaking out about the coast or great barrier reef, which is interesting. Though I did find that crop yields are going to go up pretty high with c02 so that's cool.

http://ecoethics.net/cyprus-institute.us/PDF/Rosensweig-Food-Supply.pdf
http://www.stopgreensuicide.com/Ch14_future-regional_WG1AR5_SOD_Ch14_All_Final.pdf

Wow vuk11 predicts change only brings positive externalities ...


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Reply #14 - Sep 28th, 2013 at 1:53am
 
methinks vuk11 can't define what an economy is!!

Oh wait, vuk 11 is going to turn the question around and get everyone else to do his homework like daddy taught him to do... don't forget the wink hey vuk11... oh you can't do the dodgy wink over the internets oh all is suddenly lolville!!

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** so, son, you just get the great unwashed to do your homework for you and she'll be apples[wink wink]... off trots vuk11 not realising his/her/its dad was winking at the dodgy advice given in jest!! {lordy where are those thievingly sarcastic emoticons when you need them--->> i need them 'bout now i do i do  Wink }
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