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Reply #45 - Sep 26th, 2013 at 7:57pm
 
adelcrow wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 5:31pm:
Karnal wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 4:54pm:
matty wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 3:33pm:
Peter Freedman wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 2:30pm:
While I can't vote in an election because you mean, lousy Aussies won't let me, even though I am affected by the result, at least I get to vote on the party leader.

How many others here are members of a political party?

C'mon, 'fess up.


Most people wouldn't know, but I am actually a member of the Liberal party.


That's right, Matty. The Dunedin Branch.


The North Ryde branch of the Greens will be disappointed.
Matty is breaking their rules by being a member of two parties.. tut tut Matty  Tongue


That’s true, Adelcrow, but it’s perfectly legal. Matty is also a member of the Country Liberal Party in the ACT and the Liberal National Party in Queensland - that we know of.

Are you in any other parties, Matty?
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Reply #46 - Sep 26th, 2013 at 9:41pm
 
I must admit... I did put my hand in my pocket this election...

I can't say to which party... but I only back winners... Wink Wink
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Reply #47 - Sep 27th, 2013 at 1:17am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 4:53pm:
Peter Freedman wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 2:30pm:
While I can't vote in an election because you mean, lousy Aussies won't let me, even though I am affected by the result, at least I get to vote on the party leader.

How many others here are members of a political party?

C'mon, 'fess up.



why did you join the ALP?  serious question.


Well, obviously my leaning is to the left. I joined to try and keep Abbott out, though I knew this was a lost cause.

My main reason was to be able to vote in the leadership ballot. But also to meet people of like mind and, in the long run, have some influence, however small, in the change of direction the ALP needs so badly.
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Reply #48 - Sep 27th, 2013 at 1:20am
 
red baron wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 7:13pm:
Who are you voting for Peter?


I will watch the Q&A debate before making a final decision, but at the moment, I'm leaning towards Albo.
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Reply #49 - Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:58am
 
Yes yes very sane of you peter.

Joining a political party in someone else's country where you cant vote.

Id up the medication if i were you because youre bloody crackers.
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Reply #50 - Sep 27th, 2013 at 5:06am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:58am:
Yes yes very sane of you peter.

Joining a political party in someone else's country where you cant vote.

Id up the medication if i were you because youre bloody crackers.


This is my country now. You're not me, something for which I am daily grateful.
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Reply #51 - Sep 27th, 2013 at 5:23am
 
You're a kiwi, you blow-in.

I'm yet to see someone unable to vote in "their own" country.

Like I said, I still think you're obviously crackers.
I'd get back on that psychiatrist couch mate Smiley
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Reply #52 - Sep 27th, 2013 at 6:17am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 6:42pm:
So Peters two self admissions on this forum are

1. He has mental issues.
2. He has joined the Labor Party.

Is it a pre requisite to be a nutcase to join?


Andrei, may or may not have a mental disorder. He may just do a very good job of pretending to be someone with a Dissocial Personality Disorder.

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Reply #53 - Sep 27th, 2013 at 6:34am
 
MOTR wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 6:17am:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 6:42pm:
So Peters two self admissions on this forum are

1. He has mental issues.
2. He has joined the Labor Party.

Is it a pre requisite to be a nutcase to join?


Andrei, may or may not have a mental disorder. He may just do a very good job of pretending to be someone with a Dissocial Personality Disorder.




He is too consistent to be pretending.
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Reply #54 - Sep 27th, 2013 at 6:37am
 
I've joined the Labor Party

I thought about it once when I was young but I disagree on too many issues, but good luck to you.
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Reply #55 - Sep 27th, 2013 at 6:55am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 5:23am:
You're a kiwi, you blow-in.

I'm yet to see someone unable to vote in "their own" country.

Like I said, I still think you're obviously crackers.
I'd get back on that psychiatrist couch mate Smiley


Wtf kind of crap is this? The most unaustralian person on the forum who actually gave up his right to vote having a go at an actual new citizen? What's as troll.

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Reply #56 - Sep 27th, 2013 at 6:56am
 
whilst i'm interested in politics, i mainly see it as a negative force for the advancement of the welfare of the citizenry (both economic and social advancement).

naerly all economic advancement is better handled by the private sector. this is where the drive and innovation and teamwork and high morale and "get things done ' attitude will always reside.
so in matters economic, i see the role of government as setting the rules and being the umpire and letting business get on with it (competition policy).

on social welfare, the environment, health, education, again i see that these things are better handled by empowering people at a community level.
local volunteer organizations (meals on wheels, salvos,)in social welfare, landcare groups in the environement (clean up australia day etc), in health local doctors , nurses and local hospital boards (which canberra can fund, but must then remove its clipboard mentality), in education (local school boards with a voucher system so the federal money follows the child and teachers have to "tout for business".

i see no evidence that either side of politics is serious about reduced the size and influence of government. it seems obvious with maternity schemes, disability schemes, child care schemes, proposed dental schemes, carbon schemes,...etc etc . that canberra sees its role as being ever more all-embracing.

this , i feel, is the wrong path. 
people prosper when they run small businesses and fail and learn and try again.
people prosper socailly when they solve their social problems themselves, be they unemployment, disability, health.
learned helplessness and government separation anxiety only lead to a frightened, anxious electorate with no self esteem, no self worth and no self celebration.

how can people develop a sense of achievement if they are constantly mothered and , dare i say, badly parented by our political masters.

i once hoped the liberal party would be the party of small government, supporting small business and individuals. a party to be kind to people, to encourage people and to challenge people.
i see now that i was wrong. they are  filled with career politicians and people with no life skills . they seek big government and grand centralised visions. they should have checked their egos at the door , but this has not been the case.

so, no, i would never join a party. i would join landcare, teaching english to assylum seekers, horse riding for the disabled, volunteer marine rescue, rural firefighters.
if i had spare time ( i'm actually a member of 2 of those). these give me great personal satisfaction as we "get things done"   clipboards, focus groups, think tanks....no thank you Wink Wink

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Reply #57 - Sep 27th, 2013 at 7:08am
 

I joined the Wikileaks Party before the election. It was more of a statement than a serious club membership event, cheap at $20..... I have given much more than that over the years in donations for his legal bills.

Not really for any political reason, although I go for truth and accountability above all else (you all really should) also because I like people who rat on dishonest governments....there's that truth thing again.

Whistle-blowers are my favourite kind of people.

Go democracy!!!!
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Reply #58 - Sep 27th, 2013 at 7:10am
 
Dnarever wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 6:37am:
I've joined the Labor Party

I thought about it once when I was young but I disagree on too many issues, but good luck to you.


I was once a member of the Labor Party. Have been considering rejoining myself. If I was guaranteed a vote in the upcoming leadership vote, I would probably join today.

Not sure if I'll be inspired enough to join a party led by Shorten. Thinking about it reminds me why I let my membership lapse in the first place.
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Reply #59 - Sep 27th, 2013 at 7:20am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:58am:
Yes yes very sane of you peter.

Joining a political party in someone else's country where you cant vote.

Id up the medication if i were you because youre bloody crackers.




andrei you rave about the yanks and loved living there but you couldnt vote either....I agree with pete... this is one way of having a small say in matters... I dont know if he plans on spending the rest of his life here....but assuming he does and will one day take out citizenship..in the mean time he DOES HAVE A SMALL SAY IN MATTERS that are important to him..

AND MORE POWER TO HIM...

why labor I dont know.... Roll Eyes.. but to each his own.. and thank god we dont all like the same thing and agree on everythin g.. who wants that?
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