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Boat sank 50m from Indonesian shores (Read 6424 times)
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Re: Boat sank 50m from Indonesian shores
Reply #105 - Sep 30th, 2013 at 4:45pm
 
Phemanderac wrote on Sep 30th, 2013 at 2:34pm:
A media blackout is also not very encouraging, when all that is ultimately is a form of censorship.



What media black out? It’s all over the papers, everyone one is discussing it, there are regular updates………what country are you in?

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Re: Boat sank 50m from Indonesian shores
Reply #106 - Sep 30th, 2013 at 4:52pm
 
Phemanderac wrote on Sep 30th, 2013 at 2:34pm:
Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Sep 30th, 2013 at 11:36am:
Chimp_Logic wrote on Sep 29th, 2013 at 11:04pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 29th, 2013 at 10:46pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 29th, 2013 at 10:38pm:
It has nothing to do with us Greg.

It's an Indonesian problem, not ours.



I'm a human being first, and an Australian after that.

I don't see people in trouble as any particular nationality.  They're just people, in need of assistance.






That would be the natural response of all non sociopathic and psychopathic human beings. One of empathy and concern.

Unfortunately our society has nurtured and fostered  individualism, materialism, corporatism, short term profits over everything else, fear, greed, hatred, racism, class warfare - you name it.

And it needs to be a sustained propaganda and fear campaign from generation to generation, in order to propp up this evil cartel of socio-psychopaths.

We innately recognise that its wrong.


Good propaganda, Comrade. Only we progressives types are capable of compassion and care. Those nasty conservatives looking after their family and friends first are evil. If only they could be like us progressives and put people who live 10,000 km away as the highest priority. This is progress.


Um, that is also basically propaganda mate.

I know many conservative thinkers that are of the opinion we need something more meaningful that "turn back the boats" as a solution. You know, being compassionate and caring... I also acknowledge that many lefties would seek some mystical high moral ground (which is non existent) claiming they are being compassionate and of course, there are many lefties who do not agree with wholesale allowing people into the country willy nilly as the rampant conservative ones would suggest (through their propaganda).

In short, it is beyond doubt that real solutions need to be developed. They have to be meaningful, easily implemented and, above all, measurable.

Slogans, which seem to be all our current Government has will not cut it. Nor will ineffectual actions like those of the previous Government.

To be blunt, due to their mutual desires to cling to (the myth of) power neither primary party has actually come up with a meaningful, sustainable and measurable long term solution.

A media blackout is also not very encouraging, when all that is ultimately is a form of censorship. I am quite surprised that this has not rattled the chains of the mainstream media who clearly care so much about freedom of the press and free speech and of course which party is Governing the country.


Turning back the boats is not THE solution, and has never ever been promoted by the Coalition as THE solution despite what those conservative thinkers that you know that think they understand the Coalitions policy.
Operation Sovereign Borders policy is far more than that, and turning back the boats is a small part of the entire package.
Media blackout???
Did you miss the weekly media scrum today?
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