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Re: Boat sank 50m from Indonesian shores
Reply #15 - Sep 29^th, 2013 at 2:44pm

ian wrote on Sep 29^th, 2013 at 2:13pm:

True Blue... wrote on Sep 29^th, 2013 at 1:16pm:

bullshit panzi you utter moron...

this government didn't dismantle boarder protection.. Kevin Rudd did... so why are you being a lying Rsole???

you are like that deadbeat "ian" who is using peoples death for political point scoring...

you ought to be ashamed of yourself,,, Embarrassed

I have to laugh, the moron you voted in is frozen in the headlights. Everyone in Australia except you chucky can see him for the incomptetent he apparently is. He has nothing, he said his policy on the boats would make a difference from day one, the laughable thing is he doesnt have a policy and the only difference he is making is in seeing how much he can screw up foreign policy by offending the Indos., one of our biggest export markets. In 6 months even gumps like you will be praying for a change of government.

oh ok...

you'll happily give us all a link where abbott said that he'd make a difference from day one then "ian"

you are a lying piece of garbage who politically point scores on peoples deaths...

I wouldn't spit on you if you were on fire ya maggot...

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Re: Boat sank 50m from Indonesian shores
Reply #16 - Sep 29^th, 2013 at 2:59pm

Peter Freedman wrote on Sep 29^th, 2013 at 1:51pm:

It is a blot on Australia's reputation.

Come on, Peter Freeman ~ don't make an ass of yourself.

Every drowning of The Usual Suspects arriving at Indonesia's airports these past 20 years has been the result of the Indonesian authorities having sponsored the traffic of human cargo through their country and out onto the waters towards Australia.

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Re: Boat sank 50m from Indonesian shores
Reply #17 - Sep 29^th, 2013 at 3:03pm

viewpoint wrote on Sep 29^th, 2013 at 2:00pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Sep 29^th, 2013 at 1:51pm:

Both major parties try to outdo each other in taking a hard line against asylum seekers. They share the blame.

It is a blot on Australia's reputation.

So where does Indonesia sit in this blame game?

How many drowned during KRUDD's and DILLARD's terms? Don't they bare 99.9% of any blame you want to dole out? KRUDD abolished the Howard Government's successful solution, DILLARD continued in the same vein , and again KRUDD resumed his incompetence for a second time.

Indonesia takes the blame for allowing people smuggling in the first place. We must accept the blame for the way asylum seekers are treated.

The constant attempts at scoring points off the other side on this issue, which endlessly fills this forum, is pathetic. Both are equally guilty.

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Re: Boat sank 50m from Indonesian shores
Reply #18 - Sep 29^th, 2013 at 3:05pm

True Blue... wrote on Sep 29^th, 2013 at 2:44pm:

ian wrote on Sep 29^th, 2013 at 2:13pm:

True Blue... wrote on Sep 29^th, 2013 at 1:16pm:

bullshit panzi you utter moron...

this government didn't dismantle boarder protection.. Kevin Rudd did... so why are you being a lying Rsole???

you are like that deadbeat "ian" who is using peoples death for political point scoring...

you ought to be ashamed of yourself,,, Embarrassed

I have to laugh, the moron you voted in is frozen in the headlights. Everyone in Australia except you chucky can see him for the incomptetent he apparently is. He has nothing, he said his policy on the boats would make a difference from day one, the laughable thing is he doesnt have a policy and the only difference he is making is in seeing how much he can screw up foreign policy by offending the Indos., one of our biggest export markets. In 6 months even gumps like you will be praying for a change of government.

oh ok...

you'll happily give us all a link where abbott said that he'd make a difference from day one then "ian"

you are a lying piece of garbage who politically point scores on peoples deaths...

I wouldn't spit on you if you were on fire ya maggot...

Here ya go. He's made a huge difference. Now, he's the child killer.

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Re: Boat sank 50m from Indonesian shores
Reply #19 - Sep 29^th, 2013 at 3:09pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 29^th, 2013 at 2:59pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Sep 29^th, 2013 at 1:51pm:

It is a blot on Australia's reputation.

Come on, Peter Freeman ~ don't make an ass of yourself.

Every drowning of The Usual Suspects arriving at Indonesia's airports these past 20 years has been the result of the Indonesian authorities having sponsored the traffic of human cargo through their country and out onto the waters towards Australia.

Herbert, if you want to talk to me, whether abusively or not (usually abusively because that's your style) I'd appreciate it if you would spell my name correctly.

Thank you.

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Re: Boat sank 50m from Indonesian shores
Reply #20 - Sep 29^th, 2013 at 3:11pm

Peter Freedman wrote on Sep 29^th, 2013 at 3:03pm:

viewpoint wrote on Sep 29^th, 2013 at 2:00pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Sep 29^th, 2013 at 1:51pm:

Both major parties try to outdo each other in taking a hard line against asylum seekers. They share the blame.

It is a blot on Australia's reputation.

So where does Indonesia sit in this blame game?

How many drowned during KRUDD's and DILLARD's terms? Don't they bare 99.9% of any blame you want to dole out? KRUDD abolished the Howard Government's successful solution, DILLARD continued in the same vein , and again KRUDD resumed his incompetence for a second time.

Indonesia takes the blame for allowing people smuggling in the first place. We must accept the blame for the way asylum seekers are treated.

The constant attempts at scoring points off the other side on this issue, which endlessly fills this forum, is pathetic. Both are equally guilty.

You have the weak and spineless in Australian politics who aren't the blame but haven't helped the issue. But the people that are the blame are criminals and corrupt officials. Everybody else just has an opinion.

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Re: Boat sank 50m from Indonesian shores
Reply #21 - Sep 29^th, 2013 at 3:15pm

Peter Freedman wrote on Sep 29^th, 2013 at 3:03pm:

Indonesia takes the blame for allowing people smuggling in the first place. We must accept the blame for the way asylum seekers are treated.

I honest to God think you're having a lend of us. You can't possibly be this naive.

Indonesia must take the blame for allowing migrants-in-transit to disembark at their airports for the sole purpose of getting to Australia by sea.

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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: Boat sank 50m from Indonesian shores Reply #22 - Sep 29^th, 2013 at 3:25pm Peter Freedman wrote on Sep 29^th, 2013 at 3:09pm: Herbert, if you want to talk to me, whether abusively or not (usually abusively because that's your style) I'd appreciate it if you would spell my name correctly. Thank you. I'm not anti-Jewish, so don't go paranoid on me about an honest typo.
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Re: Boat sank 50m from Indonesian shores
Reply #23 - Sep 29^th, 2013 at 3:57pm

Maqqa wrote on Sep 29^th, 2013 at 11:07am:

Let me get this right

(1) The boat was sinking 50 meters
(2) The survivors are blaming Australia

Why are they too scared to blame Indonesia?????

I think you’l find the leftards are blaming Mr Abbott for being a soft touch and attracting all these illegals, Maqqa.

What’s it got to do with Indonesia? Mr Abbott is the prime minister.

It’s so unfair.

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Re: Boat sank 50m from Indonesian shores
Reply #24 - Sep 29^th, 2013 at 3:57pm

Aussie wrote on Sep 29^th, 2013 at 3:05pm:

True Blue... wrote on Sep 29^th, 2013 at 2:44pm:

ian wrote on Sep 29^th, 2013 at 2:13pm:

True Blue... wrote on Sep 29^th, 2013 at 1:16pm:

bullshit panzi you utter moron...

this government didn't dismantle boarder protection.. Kevin Rudd did... so why are you being a lying Rsole???

you are like that deadbeat "ian" who is using peoples death for political point scoring...

you ought to be ashamed of yourself,,, Embarrassed

I have to laugh, the moron you voted in is frozen in the headlights. Everyone in Australia except you chucky can see him for the incomptetent he apparently is. He has nothing, he said his policy on the boats would make a difference from day one, the laughable thing is he doesnt have a policy and the only difference he is making is in seeing how much he can screw up foreign policy by offending the Indos., one of our biggest export markets. In 6 months even gumps like you will be praying for a change of government.

oh ok...

you'll happily give us all a link where abbott said that he'd make a difference from day one then "ian"

you are a lying piece of garbage who politically point scores on peoples deaths...

I wouldn't spit on you if you were on fire ya maggot...

Here ya go. He's made a huge difference. Now, he's the child killer.

Grab a hankie. Cry

He's not responsible for foreign smugglers boats sinking in foreign waters.

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Re: Boat sank 50m from Indonesian shores
Reply #26 - Sep 29^th, 2013 at 3:58pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 29^th, 2013 at 1:07pm:

It's baffling how we were responsible for deaths at sea when Rudd and Gillard were the leaders, remember the squawking of the righties....."blood on their hands, they've got blood on their hands"

enter Abbott

were not responsible for deaths at sea

crazy shenanigans!!!!....this government is just as responsible as the previous one was

Except this government is trying to stop people smuggling, not sponsoring it through bad policies.

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"Another boat, another policy failure from the Howard government"

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Innocent bystander Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4220 Gender:	Re: Boat sank 50m from Indonesian shores Reply #27 - Sep 29^th, 2013 at 4:00pm Soon Abbott will stop the boats and it will be one less thing for us to fight about, if he stays in long enough we'll all become good friends.
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Re: Boat sank 50m from Indonesian shores
Reply #28 - Sep 29^th, 2013 at 4:05pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Sep 29^th, 2013 at 3:57pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 29^th, 2013 at 3:05pm:

True Blue... wrote on Sep 29^th, 2013 at 2:44pm:

ian wrote on Sep 29^th, 2013 at 2:13pm:

True Blue... wrote on Sep 29^th, 2013 at 1:16pm:

bullshit panzi you utter moron...

this government didn't dismantle boarder protection.. Kevin Rudd did... so why are you being a lying Rsole???

you are like that deadbeat "ian" who is using peoples death for political point scoring...

you ought to be ashamed of yourself,,, Embarrassed

I have to laugh, the moron you voted in is frozen in the headlights. Everyone in Australia except you chucky can see him for the incomptetent he apparently is. He has nothing, he said his policy on the boats would make a difference from day one, the laughable thing is he doesnt have a policy and the only difference he is making is in seeing how much he can screw up foreign policy by offending the Indos., one of our biggest export markets. In 6 months even gumps like you will be praying for a change of government.

oh ok...

you'll happily give us all a link where abbott said that he'd make a difference from day one then "ian"

you are a lying piece of garbage who politically point scores on peoples deaths...

I wouldn't spit on you if you were on fire ya maggot...

Here ya go. He's made a huge difference. Now, he's the child killer.

Grab a hankie. Cry

He's not responsible for foreign smugglers boats sinking in foreign waters.

That’s right, CL. Mr Abbott refused to play any part in JuLiar’s unfair Malaysian solution.

Sure, it might have saved lives at sea, but Mr Abbott doesn’t like Malaysians.

Also, he did say that only a Coalition government could stop the boats.

Why won’t they stop?

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Re: Boat sank 50m from Indonesian shores
Reply #29 - Sep 29^th, 2013 at 4:08pm

Innocent bystander wrote on Sep 29^th, 2013 at 4:00pm:

Soon Abbott will stop the boats and it will be one less thing for us to fight about, if he stays in long enough we'll all become good friends.

That’s a relief, Innocent. I guess we just need to take Mr Abbott on trust.

He did say he wants to stop the boats.

Anyway, they’re not so big a problem anymore. They’ve been downgraded to minor irritant.

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