Forum

 
  Back to OzPolitic.com   Welcome, Guest. Please Login or Register
  Forum Home Album HelpSearch Recent Rules LoginRegister  
 

Page Index Toggle Pages: 1
Send Topic Print
Solar Panels in Queensland (Read 718 times)
muso
Gold Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 13151
Gladstone, Queensland
Gender: male
Solar Panels in Queensland
Oct 2nd, 2013 at 1:10pm
 
I haven't heard much more about Campbell Newman's debate on Solar Panels recently, but anybody who has forked out money to install solar panels has made a conscious financial decision. If the Government decides to impose a levy, then that is practically changing the rules for those who made that decision.

I think if that ever did happen, if all solar panel owners were to switch off their inverters at the hottest time of the day for an hour each day, the powers that be would realise that we won't stand for any such nonsense.  It could be organised at a moment's notice through a viral text message.

With 700MW of installed power generation, that's equivalent to a pretty big power station. 
Back to top
 

...
1523 people like this. The remaining 7,134,765,234 do not 
 
IP Logged
 
#
Gold Member
*****
Offline


A fool is certain: an
ignorant fool, absolutely
so

Posts: 2603
Re: Solar Panels in Queensland
Reply #1 - Oct 3rd, 2013 at 3:17pm
 
Lots of interesting things happening in Queensland, despite the government.

Magnetic Island pushes solar penetration to the limits

By Giles Parkinson on 2 October 2013


A trial on Magnetic Island, in north Queensland, has found lots of solar PV can be incorporated onto a small grid, and can help defer costly network upgrades.

A recently completed program under the Solar Cities program monitored what happened when a small and isolated grid has a lot of solar installed – a phenomenon that is expected to grip all of Australia in coming years.

On Magnetic Island, just over 1.1MW of rooftop solar was installed, mostly on individual rooftops but with one 100kW installation at the local skate park. Average penetration was 22 per cent, although at time it was up to 32 or 35 per cent.

According to Ergon Energy, the trial has been a success, delivered a lot of information about how it can manage solar PV elsewhere in the grid, and helped to defer an $18 million upgrade by nearly a decade.

Ergon Energy said in its annual report released this week (which also noted how many of its customers in regional Queensland are turning to solar) that the Magnetic Island project had reduced peak demand on the island by 16 per cent, down to 2005 levels.

And it had deferred the need to build a costly third submarine cable to the island by at least eight years.  Magnetic Island has a population of around 2,500 people, but experiences a big influx of tourists in holiday season, and a big jump in air-conditioning usage that goes with that.

“The project demonstrated that a comprehensive community engagement program can drive real change to the benefit of customers, electricity utilities and the environment,” Ergon Energy wrote in its report. “Despite ending, trials at the heart of the project around solar and hot water load control will continue as part of other sustainable energy initiatives being undertaken.”

The Australian PV Association, which has also compiled a report on the project, says the experience on Magnetic Island was part of the “remarkable, customer led transformation” of the electricity sector.

“PV is likely a precursor to a potentially wide range of other distributed energy options to come, and poses a range of issues, given its location within the distribution network at customer premises, power electronics interface, and the highly variable and somewhat unpredictable nature of the solar resource.

“PV is already presenting challenges for network service providers, forcing changes to engineering and business practices.”

APVA chaimperson Muriel Watt  said the main finding was that solar PV did not cause as many problems as some operators anticipate. There were voltage issues, but these were not necessarily caused by solar PV, but alerted by it.  These issues had all been addressed by a change in engineering and business practices.

“I think the local operator has learned a lot about their own grid – not just how to deal with solar PV, but a host of other things that will with a smart grid.

Watt said that projects such as Magnetic island were essential but the lessons had come too late to avoid a lot of un-necessary investment in recent years.

“If we were going to spend $50 billion, we should be doing it to make grid smarter, rather than strengthening a grid and not making it smarter. We won’t need the extra capacity that they will put in. We have spent money in the wrong way and we will end up with stranded assets.”

Watt noted that Ergon Energy has one of the lowest customer densities in the world – just 4 per kilometre. “In most other parts of the world, they just wouldn’t put a grid up,” she said.

That appears to be a lesson that Ergon Energy itself is absorbing. It has suggested that solar and batteries may be a cheaper option for consumers than accessing electricity through the grid by the end of the decade.

Watt noted that one transformer had experienced 75 per cent penetration from rooftop solar during the trial. “That’s pretty high, but they coped.”

Watt said it was clear – and a CSIRO study had also pointed to this – that solar PV could rise to 30-35 per cent penetration with only a minimum amount of adjustments and investments being made. A lot of these things are low cost and maybe need to be done anyway. It’s only when customers want to do their own thing (and leave the grid) that network operators get (antagonistic).
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
muso
Gold Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 13151
Gladstone, Queensland
Gender: male
Re: Solar Panels in Queensland
Reply #2 - Oct 3rd, 2013 at 3:56pm
 
Sounds as if the Government should be encouraging more Solar PV, especially in similar holiday locations.
Back to top
 

...
1523 people like this. The remaining 7,134,765,234 do not 
 
IP Logged
 
#
Gold Member
*****
Offline


A fool is certain: an
ignorant fool, absolutely
so

Posts: 2603
Re: Solar Panels in Queensland
Reply #3 - Oct 3rd, 2013 at 4:11pm
 
Another option: People power will force utilities to get serious about battery storage. On second thoughts, those who invest in batteries will probably find the utilities trying to charge thousands of dollars per month in grid charges. Best go off-grid then.  Wink
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
muso
Gold Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 13151
Gladstone, Queensland
Gender: male
Re: Solar Panels in Queensland
Reply #4 - Oct 3rd, 2013 at 9:23pm
 
Off-Topic replies have been moved to this Topic.
Back to top
 

...
1523 people like this. The remaining 7,134,765,234 do not 
 
IP Logged
 
Ajax
Gold Member
*****
Offline


CO2 has never controlled
temperature on Earth

Posts: 10982
Australia
Gender: male
Re: Solar Panels in Queensland
Reply #5 - Oct 4th, 2013 at 9:59am
 
They would have to be cyclone designed solar panels...???

So don't forget to add this cost as well.......!!!!!!!!
Back to top
 

1. There has never been a more serious assault on our standard of living than Anthropogenic Global Warming..Ajax
2. "One hour of freedom is worth more than 40 years of slavery &  prison" Regas Feraeos
 
IP Logged
 
muso
Gold Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 13151
Gladstone, Queensland
Gender: male
Re: Solar Panels in Queensland
Reply #6 - Oct 4th, 2013 at 8:25pm
 
Ajax wrote on Oct 4th, 2013 at 9:59am:
They would have to be cyclone designed solar panels...???

So don't forget to add this cost as well.......!!!!!!!!



They are already in this neck of the woods.
Back to top
 

...
1523 people like this. The remaining 7,134,765,234 do not 
 
IP Logged
 
Page Index Toggle Pages: 1
Send Topic Print