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Question: Do you want fracking stopped?

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not sure.    
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Reply #120 - Oct 21st, 2013 at 6:16pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Oct 21st, 2013 at 5:32pm:
We have $300m revenue earmarked in 2014 from gas out of Australia.

Regulations and safeguards ensure environment concerns remain a part of the process.



Really Andrei?.

Tell me how you can fix a damaged underground aquifer that
is now supplying radioactive & chemically polluted water?
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Reply #121 - Oct 21st, 2013 at 6:17pm
 
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Reply #122 - Oct 21st, 2013 at 7:34pm
 
It is a total lie to call any gas derived from Hydraulic Coal Seam Gas extraction as "NATURAL". This is an industry that ai all about quick export profits at the expense of private property rights & the environment. There is no scientific procedure known to man that can control the movement of gas & the water contaminated with toxic chemicals from moving through the earth once the fracture is made. These wells have a 1 in 5 failure rate from new & have greater failure rates as they age .... up to 25 %. Do some research on what's going on in the US. It's an environmental catastrophe ...... look what has happened in Colorado with the flooding of gas wells(1000's of them) built on flood plains. We will definitely know what living in an arid country is if the Great Artesian Basin is compromised/contaminated by this stupid process. Fracking should not be allowed to happen anywhere near Gloucester nor in what's left of any agricultural land in the Hunter Valley. What agricultural land we are not selling to the Indonesians, Indians, Chinese & Arabs for their food security(not ours) we are setting up for destruction from CSG exploitation. Short term gain = long term pain. Fracking is not & never will be green energy. It is a far bigger polluter than coal mining & produces far far more emissions of green house & other dangerous colourless & odourless gases.
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Reply #123 - Oct 21st, 2013 at 11:24pm
 
The latest testing results carried out on what we can upstream seepage of corrosive liquids as part of the fracking and catchment of gas have shown that the reduction rate is 180% on the inital tests 3 years ago.

Essentially we are now only likely to see seepage in less than 0.0001% of the catchment of the gas and even then it is less likely to go into water sourcing to urban areas.

The tests that we did - along with Texaco, Exxon, Shell and BP all confirmed like-for-like results if you follow the new protocol of installing outlet piping at every other stage of the upstream processing.

The AU Government is also looking at re-installing the 25% tax credit to energy companies on fracking if we can prove that the gas will provide AU jobs and sourcing for the region.
Something the last Government removed without any consultation with industry.

Australians want energy, they want cheaper energy and they want safety. We are getting close to providing all three with fracking within Australian waters.
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Reply #124 - Oct 21st, 2013 at 11:25pm
 
..It is a total lie to call any gas derived from Hydraulic Coal Seam Gas extraction as "NATURAL".


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Nothing is natural.
Deep sea drilling and extraction is also not natural - we still do it.

You want energy?

Then we have to go and get it.
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Reply #125 - Oct 21st, 2013 at 11:27pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Oct 21st, 2013 at 11:24pm:
The latest testing results carried out on what we can upstream seepage of corrosive liquids as part of the fracking and catchment of gas have shown that the reduction rate is 180% on the inital tests 3 years ago.

Essentially we are now only likely to see seepage in less than 0.0001% of the catchment of the gas and even then it is less likely to go into water sourcing to urban areas.

The tests that we did - along with Texaco, Exxon, Shell and BP all confirmed like-for-like results if you follow the new protocol of installing outlet piping at every other stage of the upstream processing.

The AU Government is also looking at re-installing the 25% tax credit to energy companies on fracking if we can prove that the gas will provide AU jobs and sourcing for the region.
Something the last Government removed without any consultation with industry.

Australians want energy, they want cheaper energy and they want safety. We are getting close to providing all three with fracking within Australian waters.


what do you think most Australians will say if you asked them if they wanted fracking?

Why don't you try asking them what they want, and work towards that,  instead of telling them?
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Reply #126 - Oct 21st, 2013 at 11:31pm
 
Its not the job of us as a company to ask Australians what they want.

We're not the Government and we don't answer to the people. We answer to laws and we answer to our shareholders.

We work WITH the AU Government who set down regulations that we need to fulfill and which we do.

Don't think for a moment, safety and the envionrment is not at the forefront of our concern. They are posters in our offices reminding us of the job we have to do to leave the planet in the way we should.

Australians though want cheaper energy - fracking is a way to get that.
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Reply #127 - Oct 21st, 2013 at 11:37pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Oct 21st, 2013 at 11:31pm:
Its not the job of us as a company to ask Australians what they want.

then why did you say we want it?


We're not the Government and we don't answer to the people. We answer to laws and we answer to our shareholders.

We work WITH the AU Government who set down regulations that we need to fulfill and which we do.

Don't think for a moment, safety and the envionrment is not at the forefront of our concern. They are posters in our offices reminding us of the job we have to do to leave the planet in the way we should.

Australians though want cheaper energy - fracking is a way to get that.
there you are telling them what they want again




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Reply #128 - Oct 21st, 2013 at 11:40pm
 
We didn't say they want it.

If you asked Australians if they want deep-sea drilling off the shores off Australia - which we are doing right now - reckon they will say yes?

If you asked Aussies if they want us to drill anywhere near them - reckon they say yes?

However listen to the nation scream and squeal with they try and turn on the lights or start their cars and they dont work because you have no fricken power....

Let me guess - its alright to do it elsewhere though?

You want gas? You want cheap energy? Then STFU and let us drill for it and we'll get it.
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Reply #129 - Oct 22nd, 2013 at 12:11am
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 21st, 2013 at 6:16pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Oct 21st, 2013 at 5:32pm:
We have $300m revenue earmarked in 2014 from gas out of Australia.

Regulations and safeguards ensure environment concerns remain a part of the process.



Really Andrei?.

Tell me how you can fix a damaged underground aquifer that
is now supplying radioactive & chemically polluted water?


The answer is that neither Andrei, nor those involved in Fracking have any interest in those issues, their interest is purely in making Money, NOW!
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Reply #130 - Oct 22nd, 2013 at 12:25am
 
perceptions_now wrote on Oct 22nd, 2013 at 12:11am:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 21st, 2013 at 6:16pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Oct 21st, 2013 at 5:32pm:
We have $300m revenue earmarked in 2014 from gas out of Australia.

Regulations and safeguards ensure environment concerns remain a part of the process.



Really Andrei?.

Tell me how you can fix a damaged underground aquifer that
is now supplying radioactive & chemically polluted water?


The answer is that neither Andrei, nor those involved in Fracking have any interest in those issues, their interest is purely in making Money, NOW!



Andrei doesn't care if the water supply from aquifers is ruined
for the next 10,000 years as long as money goes into his pocket now.

Greed is good - or so they say.
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Reply #131 - Oct 22nd, 2013 at 6:19am
 
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The USA has fracced its way to energy security  (quite amazing).
with the litigious nature of the yanks, if there were major problmes, some erin brockovich type drama -queen would be all over it.
seems it is probably reasonably safe.

Totally delusional.... they are destroying their environment. Besides that this gas is not for domestic use, especially here in Australia .... it's totally for export to Asia for SFA a litre. It is all about quick profits... the jobs are only short term in the construction phase ....
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The tests that we did - along with Texaco, Exxon, Shell and BP all confirmed like-for-like results if you follow the new protocol of installing outlet piping at every other stage of the upstream processing.

Who is "we"? as for Texaco, Exxon, Shell & BP doing tesing... nothing like industry self regulation for open, honest & transparent research Grin .... BP's record in the last decade is appalling ..& Exxons credibility is impeccable just like Shell ey? What a load of toss. Fracking is lunacy.
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Reply #132 - Oct 22nd, 2013 at 6:28am
 
I'm not sure about other places in Australia but the Victorian Liberal government will not approve any fracking at the moment.

I'd have to say that I totally agree with Bobby and Gnads that it looks like these greedy international companies are prepared to poison our water supplies just to take a quick buck out of our country then leave us with the mess which will end up costing us Billion.

We'd have to be insane to let this happen in our country.
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Reply #133 - Oct 22nd, 2013 at 7:02am
 

It's insanity, we will have to end up importing our water from Kenya or some other place.

It's a short term, get rich quick scam that will have long lasting consequences.
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Reply #134 - Nov 17th, 2013 at 3:41pm
 
Lock the Gate Alliance is a huge social movement against coal seam gas exploration.

They have been successful in stopping three major projects in their tracks in northern NSW. People from all walks of life have joined the march against CSG, there's no left or right here, politics doesn't enter into it, it's about the future of our country.

To date 18,000 wells have been approved in Qld with tens of thousands more to come.

Who will benefit from this rape of scenic, agricultural and heritage land? The destruction of our underground and above ground water? The destruction of farming land, our cattle industry? Who will benefit?

Very few. The gas is exported, Australians will continue to pay high prices for gas.

All the mining in Australia employs 2% of the workforce, so there's few jobs coming out of it.

The CSG and other mining industries will occupy 53% of Australia within the next few decades, that's 17 times the size of Great Britain.

This is Greed Inc. gone mad.

Watch this video if you have children or grand children growing up in this country. You will be shocked at the sheer enormity of CSG operations in Australia.





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