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Question: Do you want fracking stopped?

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« Created by: Bobby. on: Oct 6th, 2013 at 10:01am »

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Reply #30 - Oct 5th, 2013 at 11:22am
 
Swagman wrote on Oct 5th, 2013 at 10:52am:
John Smith wrote on Oct 5th, 2013 at 10:05am:
Swagman wrote on Oct 5th, 2013 at 9:59am:
I assume all you frackin Pinkos don't use frackin natural gas as it's frackin against your frackin principles? Grin



exactly! I occasionally use LPG for my BBQ, but I'm happy to stop using that if necessary


Just use CO2, apparently it's good at heating.... Cheesy



and apparently apart from a few snide remarks, you've got nothing to offer ... who'd a thunk it.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Our esteemed leader:
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Reply #31 - Oct 5th, 2013 at 11:37am
 
John Smith wrote on Oct 5th, 2013 at 11:22am:
Swagman wrote on Oct 5th, 2013 at 10:52am:
John Smith wrote on Oct 5th, 2013 at 10:05am:
Swagman wrote on Oct 5th, 2013 at 9:59am:
I assume all you frackin Pinkos don't use frackin natural gas as it's frackin against your frackin principles? Grin



exactly! I occasionally use LPG for my BBQ, but I'm happy to stop using that if necessary


Just use CO2, apparently it's good at heating.... Cheesy



and apparently apart from a few snide remarks, you've got nothing to offer ... who'd a thunk it.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


I've been chipping away at this thread Smithy and none of you pinks have yet to prove that Libs Want Dangerous Fracking Under Homes

All I've seen are lame attempts to discredit a legitimate industry.  Sad


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Reply #32 - Oct 5th, 2013 at 11:43am
 
Swagman wrote on Oct 5th, 2013 at 11:37am:
John Smith wrote on Oct 5th, 2013 at 11:22am:
Swagman wrote on Oct 5th, 2013 at 10:52am:
John Smith wrote on Oct 5th, 2013 at 10:05am:
Swagman wrote on Oct 5th, 2013 at 9:59am:
I assume all you frackin Pinkos don't use frackin natural gas as it's frackin against your frackin principles? Grin



exactly! I occasionally use LPG for my BBQ, but I'm happy to stop using that if necessary


Just use CO2, apparently it's good at heating.... Cheesy



and apparently apart from a few snide remarks, you've got nothing to offer ... who'd a thunk it.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


I've been chipping away at this thread Smithy and none have you have yet to prove that Libs Want Dangerous Fracking Under Homes

All I've seen are lame attempts to discredit a legitimate industry.




do you selectively ignore the comments you don't agree with or are you in denial??? It has been pointed out that some of the fracking will occur within 600m of homes .... well inside the 2000m exclusion zone that should be in place. Given the nature of gas, it is not unreasonable to assume that it may in certain areas indeed spread under the homes.' Sure, it's a guess, but would you take that chance if it was your house?

You have in the past accused Greg of focusing on one word whilst ignoring the meaning behind the thread

why don't you take your own advice?
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Reply #33 - Oct 5th, 2013 at 11:59am
 
John Smith wrote on Oct 5th, 2013 at 11:43am:
It has been pointed out that some of the fracking will occur within 600m of homes


If it within the buffer it won't be approved.  As I pointed out earlier it's just an application and it hasn't even been assessed.

The thread title is a bull schitt lie and any attempt to defend it is just defending a bull schitt lie.  If you want to defend lies like this and the carbon tax then go for it.

The regulation is there to protect the public but still exploit the economic advantages of the industry.  Blind arrogant objection that the Green Party and its hippy supporters have to the industry is just ludicrous.

This clouds over any credible arguments the Greens come up with and why most of the normal public think the Greens are just a bunch of unwashed commie hippies with effall credibility. Sad
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Reply #34 - Oct 5th, 2013 at 12:10pm
 
Green doesn't read, listen to or watch any news other than what comes out on bark paintings, otherwise he wouldn't bore us so frequently with his scrambled thoughts.
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Know the enemies of a civil society by their public behaviour, by their fraudulent claim to be liberal-progressive, by their propensity to lie and, above all, by their attachment to authoritarianism.
 
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Reply #35 - Oct 5th, 2013 at 12:18pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 5th, 2013 at 6:24am:
Bump.

Do we really want more fracking in Australia?


It's greed incorporated up to their old tricks of raping and pillaging the planet  for the sake of a fist full of dollars Sad
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Reply #36 - Oct 5th, 2013 at 12:21pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 5th, 2013 at 12:18pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 5th, 2013 at 6:24am:
Bump.

Do we really want more fracking in Australia?


It's greed incorporated up to their old tricks of raping and pillaging the planet  for the sake of a fist full of dollars Sad


You'd be still swinging in the trees and lunch for a prey animal but for them (if not extinct)
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Reply #37 - Oct 5th, 2013 at 12:23pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 4th, 2013 at 11:33pm:
Look at what has happened in the USA:

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2013/oct/04/fracking-us-toxic-waste-water...

Friday 4 October 2013 21.01 AEST      
Quote:
Fracking produces annual toxic waste water enough to flood Washington DC

Growing concerns over radiation risks as report finds widespread environmental damage on an unimaginable scale in the US.
Fracking in America generated 280bn US gallons of toxic waste water last year – enough to flood all of Washington DC beneath a 22ft deep toxic lagoon, a new report out on Thursday found.


The report from campaign group Environment America said America's transformation into an energy superpower was exacting growing costs on the environment.


"Our analysis shows that damage from fracking is widespread and occurs on a scale unimagined just a few years ago," the report, Fracking by the Numbers, said.


The full extent of the damage posed by fracking to air and water quality had yet to emerge, the report said.


But it concluded: "Even the limited data that are currently available, however, paint an increasingly clear picture of the damage that fracking has done to our environment and health."


A number of recent studies have highlighted the negative consequences of horizontal drilling and hydraulic fracturing, which have unlocked vast reservoirs of oil and natural gas from rock formations.


There have been instances of contaminated wells and streams, as well as evidence of methane releases along the production chain.


The Environment America report highlights another growing area of concern – the safe disposal of the billions of gallons of waste water that are returned to the surface along with oil and gas when walls are fracked.


The authors said they relied on data from industry and state environmental regulators to compile their report.


More than 80,000 wells have been drilled or permitted in 17 states since 2005.


It can take 2m to 9m gallons of water mixed with sand and chemicals to frack a single well. The report said the drilling industry had used 250bn gallons of fresh water since 2005. Much of that returns to the surface, however, along with naturally occurring radium and bromides, and concerns are growing about those effects on the environment.


A study published this week by researchers at Duke University found new evidence of radiation risks from drilling waste water. The researchers said sediment samples collected downstream from a treatment plant in western Pennsylvania showed radium concentrations 200 times above normal.


The Environment America study said waste water pits have been known to fail, such as in New Mexico where there were more than 420 instances of contamination, and that treatment plants were not entirely effective.


"Fracking waste-water discharged at treatment plants can cause a different problem for drinking water: when bromide in the wastewater mixes with chlorine (often used at drinking water treatment plants), it produces trihalomethanes, chemicals that cause cancer and increase the risk of reproductive or developmental health problems," the report said.


Other consequences of fracking highlighted in the report included: 450,000 tons of air pollution a year and 100m metric tons of global warming pollution since 2005.

     


This is another asbestos ticking time bomb except we all know in advance what the outcome will be Sad

F.cking idiots and their stinken dirty fossil fools Sad
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Reply #38 - Oct 5th, 2013 at 12:24pm
 
Swagman wrote on Oct 5th, 2013 at 12:21pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 5th, 2013 at 12:18pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 5th, 2013 at 6:24am:
Bump.

Do we really want more fracking in Australia?


It's greed incorporated up to their old tricks of raping and pillaging the planet  for the sake of a fist full of dollars Sad


You'd be still swinging in the trees and lunch for a prey animal but for them (if not extinct)


well you lot are doing a pretty good job of making us extinct Sad How long before your fracked up gas runs out or do you think it will magically renew itself ?
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Reply #39 - Oct 5th, 2013 at 12:25pm
 
perceptions_now wrote on Oct 5th, 2013 at 11:19am:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 5th, 2013 at 7:09am:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 5th, 2013 at 6:40am:
None of that money goes into my pocket anyway -
only into someone else's greedy pocket who couldn't care less.



That's why I wonder at the naivety of those ordinary people who  claim to back CSG exploration. The disadvantages and drawbacks far outweigh any benefits or perceived benefits.

We can't sit back on this one, if there's a rally near you, try to attend, then at least you can say you tried. I'm leaving a written record for my grandkids, they won't be blaming their grandma for the wreckage.

Once the underground aquifers are polluted, it will be too late to go back.


FRACKING HELL




It seems the full story is over 17 minutes long, you may be interested in the info after the 9 minute mark.


Fracking as bad as Coal, Water supply stuffed with dangerous chemicals, Radioactive elements involved in Fracking & THEN THERE'S THE POLITICAL & RELATED PAY OFFS.



It's the Liberal conservative mentality that will destroy this planet.
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Reply #40 - Oct 5th, 2013 at 12:32pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 5th, 2013 at 12:24pm:
well you lot are doing a pretty good job of making us extinct  How long before your fracked up gas runs out or do you think it will magically renew itself


My lot now is it? I bet that you and the rest of 'your' lot regularly use petrol and gas and just about everything you and your lot use daily has been produced with a fossil fuel including whatever it is you are using to post.

If you are against the exploitation of the environment why use its produce and accept the advantages that are derived from them?

The gas will last for a 'frackin' long time?  Long enough to find a credible alternative. Cheesy

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Reply #41 - Oct 5th, 2013 at 12:35pm
 
The reason humans are not extinct is because they long ago found out the competitive advantage of exploiting the environment.

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Reply #42 - Oct 5th, 2013 at 12:46pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 5th, 2013 at 12:24pm:
Swagman wrote on Oct 5th, 2013 at 12:21pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 5th, 2013 at 12:18pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 5th, 2013 at 6:24am:
Bump.

Do we really want more fracking in Australia?


It's greed incorporated up to their old tricks of raping and pillaging the planet  for the sake of a fist full of dollars Sad


You'd be still swinging in the trees and lunch for a prey animal but for them (if not extinct)


well you lot are doing a pretty good job of making us extinct Sad How long before your fracked up gas runs out or do you think it will magically renew itself ?



Hear hear Nail,
People will have spent the money but who will pay
for the environmental cleanup?
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Reply #43 - Oct 5th, 2013 at 1:07pm
 
..as always those that make the money and pay the tax
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Reply #44 - Oct 5th, 2013 at 1:12pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Oct 3rd, 2013 at 10:36am:
The USA has fracced its way to energy security  (quite amazing).
with the litigious nature of the yanks, if there were major problmes, some erin brockovich type drama -queen would be all over it.
seems it is probably reasonably safe.
then , again, i like nuclear. Wink Wink


yes it must be ok if BP and Shell say it is Sad


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