How can all the radioactive water be cleaned up?

If we had to, we would go back, at least some way back, we just went consumer crazy in the last 20 years.

It wasn't that long ago that we didn't have all this stuff. We wouldn't like it at first, but we might warm to the idea after a while.

Post capitalism.....maybe?

Hazardous Fracking - Is it Time for Civil Disobedience?

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We'er brainwashed into thinking that owning a fossil fuel automobile is a requirement for happiness. Take public transportation, meet new friends, get great exercise. Feel freer and lighter with less worries. No longer be a slave to cars, banks, insurance and gas companies. Yes it is an adjustment, but absolutely necessary to save our planet.

Bobby. wrote on Oct 5^th, 2013 at 1:38pm:


don't be silly, food and water is not important !!

as long as you can fill up your polluting gas guzzling car at the fool bowser and put money in the pocket of greed incorporated then the quality of food and water no longer matters

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 5^th, 2013 at 1:36pm:


There is a case in the USA where a farmer sued a Corporate fracking operator for making his family ill. Both the young children in the family began suffering from certain illness via the contaminated ground water.

The company settled in the end, but only on the agreement that the family, including the children did NOT speak about the case or anything about fracking in public, (for the rest of their lives)

This is why they like settling these litigations out of court. They don't have to make the details public and they can sign specific confidentiality agreements and caveats etc. This prevents other people form getting any smart ideas about suing.

Fracking uses numerous chemicals to assist with the fracturing of the rock and substrates under the ground which contain a small volume of gas of relatively low quality.

Some of these chemical agents are toxic and even carcinogenic. The process contaminates the ground water table which is a mobile natural water stream. So a contaminated ground water site on one farm can migrate to neighbouring properties or collect in low points creating serious health and environmental issues.

Even if the process only used pressurised hot pure water or steam to create the fractures, environmental damage is still created by destroying natural systems and also releasing stable chemicals and minerals that are in the solid substrate, directly into the moving water table.

An insane practice which has creeped into Australia via stealth. A disgraceful pathway considering the rich solar, geothermal, wind etc resources Australia has.

Australia is a laughing stock internationally. When I travel overseas, especially in countries such as Spain and Germany, they simply cant understand why solar energy isn't rampantly rolled out in Australia. they are envious of our abundance of solar and other natural resources.

We are falling behind when we should be world leaders in alternative energy options

But then again, we are perhaps the dumbest group of illegal settlers and invaders the worlds has seen

Bobby. wrote on Oct 5^th, 2013 at 1:38pm:


Radionuclides are already in the ecosystem. The northern hemisphere for example is about twice as radioactive as the southern hemisphere purely due to the nuclear weapons testing and nuclear accidents.

Cancer rate is higher in the northern hemisphere per capita as a result of this contamination.

Removing radioactive contaminants from water isn't really a big technically problem - there are numerous methods including membrane filtration which will filter out every atom or molecule larger than a water molecule.

The problem is what to do with the radioactive filters and materials that come into contact with the contaminants. No known solution yet to this waste except for hiding it in the ground etc.

One, note however, nuclear power plants routinely release Tritium (an isotope of Hydrogen - H3) which has a half life of about 12 years and can linger in the environment for between 10 to 20 half lifes. That is about 120 to 240 years.

Its smaller than a water molecule and so passes through a membrane type sieve that is designed to filter water.

(also watch for routine emissions of radioactive active nobel gases from nuclear power plants - very dangerous to public health and the environment)

Yes Chimp,
we may already be eating radioactive food & not know even about it.

My only consolation is that all those Libbo children will be eating it too.

Swagman wrote on Oct 5^th, 2013 at 2:52pm:


I'm sure your children & grand children, will thank you - NOT!

Bam wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2013 at 9:16am:


http://www.smh.com.au/environment/energy-smart/switch-to-gasfired-power-reduces-...

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