Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 19^th, 2013 at 3:11pm:


Hi Lisa,
The aquifers join up for hundreds of miles  & may very well be under homes.

aquascoot wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2013 at 10:36am:


Yes the very long term environmental risks lost out completely to the very short term benefit for very great financial rewards for very few.

Sometimes the way the Rights brains don't work is amazing.

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 19^th, 2013 at 3:36pm:



Yes Lisa,
a great worry to be polluting aquifers that have supplied spring water
for drinking for millions of years.

Spain had to halt fracking after numerous minor earthquakes --- and their fracking facility is 18 miles off the coast

UK had to halt fracking after numerous minor earthquakes.  Only two or three quakes was enough to have the people up in arms.  The fracking corporations are putting the heavies on the UK govt. but the people aren't in the mood

Canada - same.  And now the orchestrators of the nefarious trade-agreements are suing the Canadian govt. for billions

US -- everyone already knows the damage fracking has done

Australia -- fracking murderers are making threats to farmers who complain by flying low-level over farms prior, one supposes, to making complainants suicide themselves via six broken arms before ripping out their own tongues and shooting themselves multiple times in back of head

Campbelltown Sydney: Landcom sold land then it was learned deals had already been done to frack the area

The reality is this:  it doesn't matter what Abbott and the Libs promise.  Their promises are cynical and worthless in the extreme.  Because once Abbott the Jesuit has signed Australia up to the Trans Pacific Partnership Agreement, it will all be undone and the Libs will stand there pretending to wring their hands and whining that it's not their fault - they were overruled by Malaysia and US and Chile and other members of the TPPA

Only 5 of the 27 clauses in the Trans Pacific Partnership Agreement relate to trade.  All the rest are agreements for the TPPA to ride roughshod over Aussie legislation and any politician who pokes his head above the parapet.  In effect, Australia will be ruled by and subject to laws imposed by the members of the Trans Pacific Partnership Agreement


Abbott to Sign Highly Secretive TPP This Month
http://www.independentaustralia.net/2013/business/abbott-set-to-sign-secretive-tpp-agreement-this-month/
https://www.eff.org/issues/tpp

http://occupytppa.wordpress.com/

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Stop-the-TPPA-Trans-Pacific-Partnership-Agreement/171742532857103

http://www.exposethetpp.org/

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/17472-stopping-the-tpp-a-victory-in-the-global-revolt-against-corporate-domination

http://interoccupy.net/stoptpp/

http://www.democracynow.org/2013/10/4/a_corporate_trojan_horse_obama_pushes

Swagman wrote on Oct 20^th, 2013 at 1:35pm:



Guess it all flew by you, huh ?

You don't partake of international news?  You prefer Big Brother and free porn?

Too bad brother.  There are millions out there right now, alerting the world to this traitorous Agreement which Abbott is determined to sell us out to

It's all over the place, except, apparently, for your little closeted world


So why don't you grab a free education right now and browse the sites I've put up for you

After all, the free porn will be gone under the Trans Pacific Partnership Agreement

Gone will be freedom of speech

Gone will be an open internet

Gone will be Aussie laws

Gone will be current prices for medicines

Gone will be all the rights you currently enjoy

and you'll be subject to arbitrary 'decisions' imposed by Chile, Japan, Malaysia, the US and all the rest, who will have the power to override all Aussie laws and legislation

you'll be a number

a number without rights, without a voice, without access to anything other than what Chile, Malaysia, the US and the other 'partners' permit you

and the Aussie government will be less than a lapdog

less than a figure of speech

The Aussie government will not protect you -- will not be able to protect you

if you cross one of the many lines in the sand Malaysia or any of the other tyrants decide to impose

You could even be extradited to face random charges levied against you by some puissant 'member' of the TPPA

and all the solicitors and AGs in Australia will not lift a finger to help, because they won't have ANY power to do so


So go on -- do yourself a favour and take a little peek at the Trans Pacific Partnership Agreement -- if not for your own sake, then do it for those kids you might have out there somewhere, and their kids, and theirs

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The different approach between CSG and wind turbines says a lot about the Coalition OMO!!!

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So for CSG landowners have no say what happens on their land but for wind turbines a resident can have it stopped within 2km.....WTF???

Seepage of non corrosive waste through fracking processes has decreased by over 80% in the last 2 years.
It's not 100% safe but nothing in life is.

Fracking of gas however gives a ready energy source at a far cheaper gross margin to Australians than solar power and will help provide further power for decades.

Australia will see further fracking, certainly from my employer and you won't even notice the change.

Let's not let common sense get in the way of hysteria.

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Oct 20^th, 2013 at 8:00pm:


...I'll have to throw a bit of ratsak under there then...