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Oct 3rd, 2013 at 4:04pm
 
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Man From Low-Lying Island Nation Fights For Climate Refugee Status


By Ari Phillips on October 1, 2013 at 11:59 am


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Tarawa atoll, Kiribati

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If ocean levels rise by as much as three feet by the end of the century, as predicted by the Fifth IPCC Assessment report released last week, the Pacific island nation of Kiribati — composed of 32 atolls — would mostly disappear.

The potential impacts on the 100,000 citizens of Kiribati, not to mention the millions of others living in low-lying island nations and coastal areas, of this climate change-induced forced exodus are already playing out in New Zealand where a Kiribati man is trying to convince the court that he’s a climate refugee.

The man, referred to as “AF” in hearings, and his wife came to New Zealand six years ago for higher ground and better prospects, according to The Associated Press. Since then, immigration authorities have twice rejected his argument that rising sea levels make it too dangerous for him and his family to return to Kiribati.

On October 16 the case will go before New Zealand’s High Court.

Bruce Burson, a member of New Zealand’s Immigration and Protection Tribunal, has said that the legal concept of a refugee is someone that is being persecuted, which requires human interaction. Burson also said that the man’s claim was rejected because the family’s predicament was the same as faced by the entire population of Kiribati.

“The sad reality is that the environmental degradation caused by both slow and sudden-onset natural disasters is one which is faced by the Kiribati population generally,” he said.

Kiribati’s president Anote Tong is well aware of this fact and has suggested mass relocation to Fiji or even construction of floating island-type accommodation. The Kiribati government has already paid a deposit for 6,000 acres in Fiji for crop growing to provide food security.

The AP obtained a transcript of the man’s recent immigration hearing in which he describes high tides that kill crops, flood homes, and sicken residents with foul drinking water.

The legal case remains a long shot, but one that deserves close attention due to the likelihood of similar cases in the future. Sea level rise impacts not only low-lying islands with small populations but also heavily populated coastal regions, such as Kolkata, India and Dhaka, Bangladesh.

Earlier this year Dr. Rajendra Pachauri, chairperson of the IPCC, said, “There is a very high risk in delta cities like Kolkata, Shanghai and Dhaka. They are very vulnerable to the impacts of climate change due to sea level rise and coastal flooding. Both people and property would be affected in such a scenario.”

In April the Refugee Council of Australia implored the Australian government to become the first nation in the world to recognize populations displaced due to changes in climate as “climate refugees.”

Phil Glendenning, president of the Refugee Council of Australia, told The Guardian, “These are people who are not suffering from persecution because of their beliefs, race or because they belong to a particular group.” As a result, “they don’t meet the Refugee Convention criteria but, nevertheless, there will be a need for people to be resettled because they have been displaced by climate change. This is a new cohort of people who are emerging, the rest of the world needs to pay attention.”

As refugee-receiving nations like Australia and New Zealand grapple with the legal and political implications of climate refugees, island nations already reeling from the impacts of more severe weather events and sea-level rise will continue to roll with the tides and absorb the unwelcome changes as best as possible.

In the Maldives an entire new island, called Hulhumalé, has been developed by reclaiming dredged sand. When the second phase is completed in the next few years nearly 3,000 housing units will house 160,000 people — about a third of the entire population — at levels up to two meters above sea level.

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“It is the safest island in the Maldives, from sea level at least,” Ahmed Varish, at the Hulhumalé Housing Development Corporation, told The Guardian.
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Reply #2 - Oct 3rd, 2013 at 4:17pm
 
Hysterical nonsense  Grin
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Reply #3 - Oct 3rd, 2013 at 4:20pm
 
Innocent bystander wrote on Oct 3rd, 2013 at 4:17pm:
Hysterical nonsense  Grin

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Innocent bystander wrote on Oct 3rd, 2013 at 4:17pm:
Hysterical nonsense  Grin

Substantiation? Or are you trolling? Are you greggerypeccary?
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muso wrote on Oct 3rd, 2013 at 9:32pm:
You are getting very close to being banned from Environment for trolling.



Wonderful.

Threats now, because I ask the difficult questions and point out the facts.

The alarmists can call people names and tell lies, and that's fine.

Read this, and read it good: I am not trolling - I am asking the hard questions that alarmists can't answer. 

This is what the alarmists do, everybody: disagree with them, or ask difficult questions, or point out that someone is telling lies and you get threatened with being banned.

Absolutely unbelievable..
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Reply #7 - Oct 3rd, 2013 at 9:39pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2013 at 8:22pm:
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# is merely a brainwashed troll ...
In view of your history, which of us is the troll?

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2013 at 8:22pm:
who believes every single thing he reads that is pro AGW ...
Experience teaches that the majority is most often right.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2013 at 9:14pm:
... it's the facts and the science that counts.
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What do the vast majority of scientists who are best qualified in climate science say? Is that a fact? Is it an inconvenient truth?
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Reply #8 - Oct 3rd, 2013 at 9:46pm
 

Once again they use 'consensus', instead of science.

Consensus is not part of the scientific method.

Climate change is about science: let's stick to that, shall we?

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greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2013 at 9:46pm:
Once again they use 'consensus', instead of science.

Consensus is not part of the scientific method.

Climate change is about science: let's stick to that, shall we?



That's an excellent suggestion. When are you going to start?
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Reply #10 - Oct 3rd, 2013 at 9:53pm
 
muso wrote on Oct 3rd, 2013 at 9:47pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2013 at 9:46pm:
Once again they use 'consensus', instead of science.

Consensus is not part of the scientific method.

Climate change is about science: let's stick to that, shall we?



That's an excellent suggestion. When are you going to start?



Too late: I've been all about the science since day one.

Currently there is not enough reliable, credible, scientific evidence to support the AGW theory.




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Reply #11 - Oct 3rd, 2013 at 10:08pm
 
So we need to start at where you think  the point of departure is.

Is it climate sensitivity? Tell me where you think the science is going wrong.

- because we know exactly how much LWIR is absorbed by CO2.
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Do you believe the Radiative Forcing for CO2 to be wrongly stated? 
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Currently there is not enough reliable, credible, scientific evidence to support the AGW theory.


It is a theory, but if your revelation is correct, then it becomes a hypothesis.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2013 at 9:37pm:
... I ask the difficult questions and point out the facts.
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Is that what you do?

History shows you trolling and making assertions that you can't substantiate.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2013 at 9:46pm:
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Consensus is not part of the scientific method.
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Yet another assertion which you can't substantiate.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2013 at 9:53pm:
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Too late: I've been all about the science since day one.

Currently there is not enough reliable, credible, scientific evidence to support the AGW theory.
If that was true, then wouldn't you be able to substantiate what you assert?

If you truly believe what you say, then why can't you substantiate any of it?
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# wrote on Oct 4th, 2013 at 7:30am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2013 at 9:46pm:
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Consensus is not part of the scientific method.
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Yet another assertion which you can't substantiate.





You global warming cranks are a crack up no sh#t  Grin
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Reply #14 - Oct 4th, 2013 at 9:09am
 
Any further personal attacks like this will be removed. I certainly don't want to stifle discussion, but this kind of post will not be tolerated, and it adds nothing to the discussion. Refer to local Moderation environment.

If you have nothing of substance to add, please refrain from posting.
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