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Re: Climate Change Refugees
Reply #30 - Oct 15^th, 2013 at 9:01am

longweekend58 wrote on Oct 4^th, 2013 at 9:37am:

muso wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2013 at 10:08pm:

So we need to start at where you think the point of departure is.

Is it climate sensitivity? Tell me where you think the science is going wrong.

- because we know exactly how much LWIR is absorbed by CO2.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/7/4/9/74945338ec357d4a68e5f5356f8f19a0.png

Do you believe the Radiative Forcing for CO2 to be wrongly stated?
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Currently there is not enough reliable, credible, scientific evidence to support the AGW theory.

It is a theory, but if your revelation is correct, then it becomes a hypothesis.

impressive formula muso however, it does not explain the static nature of temperature over 17 years nor the sea level rises that are incredibly small.

PS. the IPCC may say one meter in 100 years but on what basis should we believe in their predictions since they change them all the time since they get them all wrong?

Well their predictions cannot ever be taken seriously simply because they have gotten all the previous ones wrong.
We are still waiting patiently for the 50,000 climate change refugees that the UN stated a few years back would arrive on our shores by 2010.
They keep peddling the line that melting ice is going to cause massive sea level rises over time, however the last time I melted a full glass of ice with water added up to the rim of the glass prior to the ice melting, guess what?
Yup.
Not one drop went over the rim.
Why?
Because the weight of the ice and water already present equals the weight of the water when melted therefore resulting in no rise whatsoever.
All the scientific soothsayers can only show as evidence of supposed sea level rises is coral islands sinking.
However they don't bother to show the coral islands that rise out of the sea.
The soothsayers are going to need more than a few coral islands disappearing I'm afraid if they wish to be taken seriously.

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# Gold Member Offline A fool is certain: an ignorant fool, absolutely so Posts: 2603	Re: Climate Change Refugees Reply #31 - Oct 15^th, 2013 at 9:44am chicken_lipsforme wrote on Oct 15^th, 2013 at 9:01am: ... Well their predictions cannot ever be taken seriously simply because they have gotten all the previous ones wrong. ... All of them? Can you substantiate that assertion?
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Re: Climate Change Refugees
Reply #32 - Oct 15^th, 2013 at 9:50am

# wrote on Oct 15^th, 2013 at 9:44am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Oct 15^th, 2013 at 9:01am:

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Well their predictions cannot ever be taken seriously simply because they have gotten all the previous ones wrong.
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All of them? Can you substantiate that assertion?

Can you prove that assertion wrong..................??????

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Re: Climate Change Refugees
Reply #33 - Oct 15^th, 2013 at 9:53am

Ajax wrote on Oct 15^th, 2013 at 8:45am:

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People have a right to their opinion just because it conflicts with your beliefs, it doesn't give you the right to try and convince all the other forumites and the occasional reader that everyone except you is wrong.
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Is it a question of rights? I reckon it's more one of credibility.

Dunning–Kruger effect

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for a given skill, incompetent people will:

1. tend to overestimate their own level of skill;
2. fail to recognize genuine skill in others;
3. fail to recognize the extremity of their inadequacy;

To me, it looks like ImSpartacus2 is saying you're not the ignorant nut job you pretend to be. Just a a sockpuppet.

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Re: Climate Change Refugees
Reply #34 - Oct 15^th, 2013 at 9:56am

Ajax wrote on Oct 15^th, 2013 at 9:50am:

# wrote on Oct 15^th, 2013 at 9:44am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Oct 15^th, 2013 at 9:01am:

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Well their predictions cannot ever be taken seriously simply because they have gotten all the previous ones wrong.
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All of them? Can you substantiate that assertion?

Can you prove that assertion wrong..................??????

Isn't substantiation down to the one making the assertion? Evidently, you can't substantiate it. Did you make it up?

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Re: Climate Change Refugees
Reply #35 - Oct 15^th, 2013 at 10:00am

# wrote on Oct 15^th, 2013 at 9:56am:

Ajax wrote on Oct 15^th, 2013 at 9:50am:

# wrote on Oct 15^th, 2013 at 9:44am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Oct 15^th, 2013 at 9:01am:

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Well their predictions cannot ever be taken seriously simply because they have gotten all the previous ones wrong.
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All of them? Can you substantiate that assertion?

Can you prove that assertion wrong..................??????

Isn't substantiation down to the one making the assertion? Evidently, you can't substantiate it. Did you make it up?

The IPCC have been proven wrong on many occasions, see below..!!!!

The missing heat of the last 15 years in somewhere in the oceans.

There was no medieval warm period or mini ice age.

All glaciers would be gone by 2035.

All the ice in the arctic would be gone by 2013.

There is a hot spot in the tropopause.

Co2 & temperature correlate.

Mosquitos and malaria would spread because of AGW.

All natural disasters are caused from anthropogenic global warming.

Ocean acidity of 0.3 pH units over the next 90 years will be catastrophic when ocean acidity changes much more than this on a daily bases.

The shonkey hockey stick which no one is allowed to analyse..............climate gate......????

Sea levels are rising uncontrollably...!!!!!

The IPCC's 1990 prediction of unequivocal warming of 0.2 degrees celcius per decade when for the last 15 years we have only had 0.05 degrees celcius per decade.

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ImSpartacus2 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6913	Re: Climate Change Refugees Reply #36 - Oct 15^th, 2013 at 10:17am Are you a sock puppet Ajax and whose sock puppet are you? How many NICs have you got Ajax pretending to be different people? If its so you are a disgusting pig and one day there will be retribution for your disgusting deception on humanity.
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Re: Climate Change Refugees
Reply #37 - Oct 15^th, 2013 at 10:21am

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Oct 15^th, 2013 at 10:17am:

Are you a sock puppet Ajax and whose sock puppet are you? How many NICs have you got Ajax pretending to be different people? If its so you are a disgusting pig and one day there will be retribution for your disgusting deception on humanity.

Again the crazy religious aspect creeps in Cheesy

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Re: Climate Change Refugees
Reply #38 - Oct 15^th, 2013 at 10:31am

Ajax wrote on Oct 15^th, 2013 at 10:00am:

# wrote on Oct 15^th, 2013 at 9:56am:

Ajax wrote on Oct 15^th, 2013 at 9:50am:

# wrote on Oct 15^th, 2013 at 9:44am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Oct 15^th, 2013 at 9:01am:

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Well their predictions cannot ever be taken seriously simply because they have gotten all the previous ones wrong.
...

All of them? Can you substantiate that assertion?

Can you prove that assertion wrong..................??????

Isn't substantiation down to the one making the assertion? Evidently, you can't substantiate it. Did you make it up?

The IPCC have been proven wrong on many occasions, see below..!!!!

The missing heat of the last 15 years in somewhere in the oceans.

There was no medieval warm period or mini ice age.

All glaciers would be gone by 2035.

All the ice in the arctic would be gone by 2013.

There is a hot spot in the tropopause.

Co2 & temperature correlate.

Mosquitos and malaria would spread because of AGW.

All natural disasters are caused from anthropogenic global warming.

Ocean acidity of 0.3 pH units over the next 90 years will be catastrophic when ocean acidity changes much more than this on a daily bases.

The shonkey hockey stick which no one is allowed to analyse..............climate gate......????

Sea levels are rising uncontrollably...!!!!!

The IPCC's 1990 prediction of unequivocal warming of 0.2 degrees celcius per decade when for the last 15 years we have only had 0.05 degrees celcius per decade.

A list of assertions is not substantiation. All you've done is give yourself more that you need to substantiate.

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# Gold Member Offline A fool is certain: an ignorant fool, absolutely so Posts: 2603	Re: Climate Change Refugees Reply #39 - Oct 15^th, 2013 at 10:32am Innocent bystander wrote on Oct 15^th, 2013 at 10:21am: ... Again the crazy religious aspect creeps in ... You mean Ajax's denial?
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Re: Climate Change Refugees
Reply #40 - Oct 15^th, 2013 at 10:35am

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Oct 15^th, 2013 at 10:17am:

Are you a sock puppet Ajax and whose sock puppet are you? How many NICs have you got Ajax pretending to be different people? If its so you are a disgusting pig and one day there will be retribution for your disgusting deception on humanity.

Dude I think you may need some psychiatry....!!!!

How about debating the science rather than name calling...???

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Ajax Gold Member Offline CO2 has never controlled temperature on Earth Posts: 10982 Australia Gender:	Re: Climate Change Refugees Reply #42 - Oct 15^th, 2013 at 10:38am # wrote on Oct 15^th, 2013 at 10:32am: Innocent bystander wrote on Oct 15^th, 2013 at 10:21am: ... Again the crazy religious aspect creeps in ... You mean Ajax's denial? # you guys are the denialists we are the sceptics.
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# Gold Member Offline A fool is certain: an ignorant fool, absolutely so Posts: 2603	Re: Climate Change Refugees Reply #43 - Oct 15^th, 2013 at 10:43am Ajax wrote on Oct 15^th, 2013 at 10:36am: # wrote on Oct 15^th, 2013 at 10:31am: A list of assertions is not substantiation. All you've done is give yourself more that you need to substantiate. Can you refute them.......??????? Can you substantiate them?
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Re: Climate Change Refugees
Reply #44 - Oct 15^th, 2013 at 10:45am

# wrote on Oct 15^th, 2013 at 10:43am:

Ajax wrote on Oct 15^th, 2013 at 10:36am:

# wrote on Oct 15^th, 2013 at 10:31am:

A list of assertions is not substantiation. All you've done is give yourself more that you need to substantiate.

Can you refute them.......???????

Can you substantiate them?

only if you refute them.............?????

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