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Reply #30 - Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 4:44pm

muso wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 2:47pm:

namnugenot wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2013 at 7:09pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2013 at 4:01pm:

namnugenot wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2013 at 2:29pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2013 at 9:59am:

VUK11 and Ajax Clowns

Have you both been following the spring fires in NSW ?

Where is the cooling/static temperature model and supporting theories, that I requested? You only have until the end of 2019, you better get to work soon on your simple task!!.

The only model that takes account of all variables, interactions and negative and positive feedbacks is the one we're in...every thing else is speculation and most equates to garbage in, garbage out as in no models predicted the warming "pause"...so it can't happen...the model don't allow it. Here's a cooling prediction however from the IPCC for Britain (actually big chunks of the NH would be effected) for the gulf stream to slow by 20 to 44 percent. However to tie this to any anthropogenic warming is a bit rich as it has stopped and started many times in the past without our help.

jet powered flight is also controlled and optimised using computer modelling theory and empirical data

do you fly much?

Funny I did't think the Wright brothers had a computer?
What's that got to do with modelling vast climatic systems anyway?

What has aerospace engineering to do with Climate Change? Nothing whatsoever. Maybe somebody should tell Burt Rutan that.

You dont seem to mind a train engineer for gods sake, telling all and sundry about your religion of AGW though do you.

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Reply #31 - Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 4:57pm

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2013 at 9:59am:

VUK11 and Ajax Clowns

Have you both been following the spring fires in NSW ?

Hahahahaha.....aaaaaaahahahahaha!

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Where is the cooling/static temperature model and supporting theories, that I requested?

I don't ever recall accepting a task from you?
I don't need to accept a task from you, I provided two skeptic predictions, but I'm not in the business of predictions. Apparently I'm just an oil shill paid to spread misinformation in a small internet community.

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You only have until the end of 2019, you better get to work soon on your simple task!!

Shhhh no more tears,
only dreams now.

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Reply #32 - Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 4:59pm

muso wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 2:47pm:

What has aerospace engineering to do with Climate Change? Nothing whatsoever. Maybe somebody should tell Burt Rutan that.

Oh come on now, are you saying someone who's spent an entire extensive career working with data and analyzing data doesn't have authority to analyze data? What because he doesn't have a non-existent PHD in climate science?

Come on now Muso, did you even go through the presentation and see the manipulated data of the IPCC?

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Reply #33 - Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 8:16pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 2:04pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 12:30pm:

Ajax wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 7:33am:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2013 at 4:01pm:

jet powered flight is also controlled and optimised using computer modelling theory and empirical data

do you fly much?

Modelling the climate and landing a plane are world's apart.

.

you are starting to panic you putrid weasel freak clown

Actually, it's the AGW alarmists who are panicking.

Sceptics remain cool, calm and collected.

Bit of an oxymoron to compare sceptics with AGW deniers don't you think?

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Chimp_Logic Gold Member Offline πολιτικός Posts: 4826 Mawson Base Gender:	Re: Majority Reply #34 - Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 8:18pm I have lost a tremendous amount of respect for the one who refers to himself as muso. To enter this realm in disguise and pretend to post AGW denialist spin just to keep a thread topic chugging along is utterly unforgiveable.
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Reply #35 - Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 8:20pm

Vuk11 wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 4:59pm:

muso wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 2:47pm:

What has aerospace engineering to do with Climate Change? Nothing whatsoever. Maybe somebody should tell Burt Rutan that.

Oh come on now, are you saying someone who's spent an entire extensive career working with data and analyzing data doesn't have authority to analyze data? What because he doesn't have a non-existent PHD in climate science?

Come on now Muso, did you even go through the presentation and see the manipulated data of the IPCC?

The problem is his focus. He focusses on historical data, particularly the Medieval Warming period. It's totally irrelevant to any argument. Nobody has any accurate measurements from that period anyway. All we have is proxies for temperature and CO2. Solar Irradiance and other forcings for that period are pretty rubbery.

It's all quite interesting I'm sure, but really has nothing to do with the properties of the CO2 molecule, which is the crux of the matter.

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Reply #36 - Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 8:23pm

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 8:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 2:04pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 12:30pm:

Ajax wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 7:33am:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2013 at 4:01pm:

jet powered flight is also controlled and optimised using computer modelling theory and empirical data

do you fly much?

Modelling the climate and landing a plane are world's apart.

.

you are starting to panic you putrid weasel freak clown

Actually, it's the AGW alarmists who are panicking.

Sceptics remain cool, calm and collected.

Bit of an oxymoron to compare sceptics with AGW deniers don't you think?

Is that what you're doing.

It's not what I'm doing.

Did you have your afternoon nap today?

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Reply #37 - Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 8:27pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 8:23pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 8:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 2:04pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 12:30pm:

Ajax wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 7:33am:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2013 at 4:01pm:

jet powered flight is also controlled and optimised using computer modelling theory and empirical data

do you fly much?

Modelling the climate and landing a plane are world's apart.

.

you are starting to panic you putrid weasel freak clown

Actually, it's the AGW alarmists who are panicking.

Sceptics remain cool, calm and collected.

Bit of an oxymoron to compare sceptics with AGW deniers don't you think?

Is that what you're doing.

It's not what I'm doing.

Did you have your afternoon nap today?

not much time for napping these days

been running some very long finite element analyses with extremely fine meshes. Average computation time is over 2 days.

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Reply #38 - Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 8:29pm

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 8:27pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 8:23pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 8:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 2:04pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 12:30pm:

Ajax wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 7:33am:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2013 at 4:01pm:

jet powered flight is also controlled and optimised using computer modelling theory and empirical data

do you fly much?

Modelling the climate and landing a plane are world's apart.

.

you are starting to panic you putrid weasel freak clown

Actually, it's the AGW alarmists who are panicking.

Sceptics remain cool, calm and collected.

Bit of an oxymoron to compare sceptics with AGW deniers don't you think?

Is that what you're doing.

It's not what I'm doing.

Did you have your afternoon nap today?

not much time for napping these days

been running some very long finite element analyses with extremely fine meshes. Average computation time is over 2 days.

Well, it's good to see you've got a hobby.

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Reply #39 - Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 8:31pm

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 8:18pm:

I have lost a tremendous amount of respect for the one who refers to himself as muso.

To enter this realm in disguise and pretend to post AGW denialist spin just to keep a thread topic chugging along is utterly unforgiveable.

What on earth are you talking about Chimp? Where have I posted denialist spin?

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 139651 Gender:	Re: Majority Reply #40 - Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 8:41pm muso wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 8:31pm: What on earth are you talking about Chimp? Chimp is a genuine paranoid psychotic. You've only just realised this?
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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: Majority Reply #41 - Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 8:42pm progressiveslol wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 4:44pm: train engineer for gods sake OK, I'm guessing that you're dying to tell me who that is. I tend to go from the basic science myself, so I have no idea which commentator you're talking about.
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Reply #42 - Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 8:55pm

muso wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 8:20pm:

The problem is his focus. He focusses on historical data, particularly the Medieval Warming period. It's totally irrelevant to any argument. Nobody has any accurate measurements from that period anyway. All we have is proxies for temperature and CO2. Solar Irradiance and other forcings for that period are pretty rubbery.

It's all quite interesting I'm sure, but really has nothing to do with the properties of the CO2 molecule, which is the crux of the matter.

You're right and I agree.
It focuses on history and credibility mainly and for that it's great at clearing up some claims like the hockey stick and pointing things out like temperature monitors next to air vents and waste treatment plants.

He does have in there some predictions and some information about adaptation/costs etc. The predictions are just extrapolated trends with nothing else really behind them, however it's main use is to show where people lose credibility.

That's exactly why I've posted it in the past, to help clear things up historically (as you rightly point out beyond a certain time period there's no real reliable data) and expose fraudulent acts. It's more of a politically centered piece against the IPCC rather than analysis of new research so you're right on that.

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Reply #43 - Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 8:58pm

muso wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 8:31pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 8:18pm:

I have lost a tremendous amount of respect for the one who refers to himself as muso.

To enter this realm in disguise and pretend to post AGW denialist spin just to keep a thread topic chugging along is utterly unforgiveable.

What on earth are you talking about Chimp? Where have I posted denialist spin?

Ummm while you were gone poor Chimp and Spartacs went full blown conspiracy theorist on us. I wouldn't take it to heart, everybody knows you usually come from a knowledgeable standpoint, things just got foggy for some.

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Reply #44 - Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 9:14pm

Vuk11 wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 8:58pm:

muso wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 8:31pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 8:18pm:

I have lost a tremendous amount of respect for the one who refers to himself as muso.

To enter this realm in disguise and pretend to post AGW denialist spin just to keep a thread topic chugging along is utterly unforgiveable.

What on earth are you talking about Chimp? Where have I posted denialist spin?

Ummm while you were gone poor Chimp and Spartacs went full blown conspiracy theorist on us. I wouldn't take it to heart, everybody knows you usually come from a knowledgeable standpoint, things just got foggy for some.

are you typing to yourself?

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