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Oct 7th, 2013 at 10:18am
 
Risks grow for Antarctic life


October 7, 2013


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In trouble: Antarctic krill are increasingly at danger as the effects of climate change alter their ecosystem. Photo: Australian Antarctic Division


Turns out it's the little things we need to worry about in climate change. When they are in trouble a great polar ecosystem might also be having problems.

The oceans are absorbing so much carbon dioxide that they are acidifying at an unprecedented rate, the International Program on the State of the Oceans said.

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Foraminifera: Single-celled marine protozoa threatened by the acidification of the oceans waters. Photo: Getty Images


Geological records show the current acidification is unparalleled in at least the last 300 million years, IPSO's latest report said. ''We are entering an unknown territory of marine ecosystem change, and exposing organisms to intolerable evolutionary pressure.''
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The smallest of these creatures in the Antarctic marine ecosystem are said to be showing some of the early signs of acidification damage. And work by Australian scientists shows even greater problems lie in store for the creature at the centre of the Antarctic food web - krill.

Coalition Environment Minister Greg Hunt said warnings of increasing ocean acidification were the most important new advice from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's latest report.

''In the debate around climate change, research on acidification of the oceans is a particular personal concern,'' Mr Hunt said. ''This has been reinforced by the work of Australian scientists, particularly in the Antarctic.

''The Southern Ocean is specially vulnerable to increased acidity because of the cold water and the type of marine life. If there are changes in these environments, then there is a flow-on impact across the entire marine system.''

The Oxford-based IPSO scientists reported widespread global biological impacts, including the erosion of coral reefs, tipping past their building rates as soon as 2030-2050.

But the rate of acidification is 50 per cent faster in the higher polar latitudes than in sub-tropical waters, due to the effects of temperature on ocean chemistry, it said.

''Think of it like a cold beer at a barbecue," Donna Roberts of the Antarctic Climate and Ecosystems CRC at the University of Tasmania said. ''It holds onto its carbon dioxide bubbles longer.

''Remember that 40 per cent of all the carbon dioxide going into the oceans goes into the Southern Ocean. It's going to hit high, and hit hard,'' she said.

Dr Roberts said work on tetrapod snails showed distinct acidification effects. ''We're finding evidence that shell structure has been getting softer since 1997.''

Similar problems face foraminifera, countless micro-organisms which also rely on calcium carbonate for their structure.

But it is the keystone Antarctic species, the shrimp-like krill, that is a focus of concern about future acidification.

Biologist So Kawaguchi said Antarctic krill were already experiencing changing climate stressors such as rising temperatures and changes in their planktonic food production.

In an aquarium world with carbon dioxide elevated at predicted rates, krill eggs failed to develop properly, Dr Kawaguchi said.

If emissions were to continue to rise, harm would increase during coming decades to the point where by 2300, krill would be unable to hatch in vast areas of the Southern Ocean.

Chief scientist at the Antarctic Division, Nick Gales, said work was beginning on the flow-on effects of the loss of krill.

''Animals that don't have the flexibility to prey switch are likely to be more in trouble,'' Dr Gales said.

''Among the whales, it would be the blue whale and the Antarctic minke which are reliant on krill. And there is a whole range of seabirds.''

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They are trying to morph global warming err I mean climate change into ocean acidification now that the climate is not actually changing, be afraid ... be very afraid  Grin
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Reply #2 - Oct 7th, 2013 at 12:20pm
 
Innocent bystander wrote on Oct 7th, 2013 at 11:42am:
They are trying to morph global warming err I mean climate change into ocean acidification now that the climate is not actually changing, be afraid ... be very afraid  Grin


I thought that you said the Climate Changed naturally??

Are you advocating a STATIC climate model now?

Ocean acidification due to increased CO2 absorption has been studied for many decades.

Your illness is worsening I see. Your religious temples of fossil fuel worship and paranoia and hatred for CLEAN things seem to be withering away like the residual IQ that clearly informs you neurotic self delusional existence

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Reply #3 - Oct 7th, 2013 at 12:24pm
 
Innocent bystander wrote on Oct 7th, 2013 at 11:42am:
They are trying to morph global warming err I mean climate change into ocean acidification now that the climate is not actually changing, be afraid ... be very afraid  Grin


So true Innocent_bystander

Once their theory gets shot down they quickly jump on to something else.

Lucky we have sceptics otherwise these stooges would be worshipping the IPCC findings like some sort of ten commandments from God himself.
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Reply #4 - Oct 7th, 2013 at 1:10pm
 
Ajax wrote on Oct 7th, 2013 at 12:24pm:
Innocent bystander wrote on Oct 7th, 2013 at 11:42am:
They are trying to morph global warming err I mean climate change into ocean acidification now that the climate is not actually changing, be afraid ... be very afraid  Grin


So true Innocent_bystander

Once their theory gets shot down they quickly jump on to something else.

Lucky we have sceptics otherwise these stooges would be worshipping the IPCC findings like some sort of ten commandments from God himself.


Acidification of the earths oceans and fresh water ways caused by increased CO2 absorption from the atmosphere is a fact

By the way, reference to Acidification problems has been included in ALL of the IPCC report released thus far.

Not that I would expect you denialist fossil priests to have read any peer reviewed literature on the subject let alone the executive summary of the IPCC reports.

See what happens when you post spin and deceit?

Always ends up the same way hey darkened Batman and his newly found side kick innocent bystander

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Reply #5 - Oct 7th, 2013 at 1:25pm
 
Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 7th, 2013 at 1:10pm:
Ajax wrote on Oct 7th, 2013 at 12:24pm:
Innocent bystander wrote on Oct 7th, 2013 at 11:42am:
They are trying to morph global warming err I mean climate change into ocean acidification now that the climate is not actually changing, be afraid ... be very afraid  Grin


So true Innocent_bystander

Once their theory gets shot down they quickly jump on to something else.

Lucky we have sceptics otherwise these stooges would be worshipping the IPCC findings like some sort of ten commandments from God himself.


Acidification of the earths oceans and fresh water ways caused by increased CO2 absorption from the atmosphere is a fact

By the way, reference to Acidification problems has been included in ALL of the IPCC report released thus far.

Not that I would expect you denialist fossil priests to have read any peer reviewed literature on the subject let alone the executive summary of the IPCC reports.

See what happens when you post spin and deceit?

Always ends up the same way hey darkened Batman and his newly found side kick innocent bystander


Like I said chimp, lucky we have sceptics to keep the alarmist propaganda under the microscope.


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There goes another scare campaign.

Until recently we had very little data about real time changes in ocean pH around the world. Finally autonomous sensors placed in a variety of ecosystems “from tropical to polar, open-ocean to coastal, kelp forest to coral reef” give us the information we needed.

It turns out that far from being a stable pH, spots all over the world are constantly changing. One spot in the ocean varied by an astonishing 1.4 pH units regularly. All our human emissions are projected by models to change the world’s oceans by about 0.3 pH units over the next 90 years, and that’s referred to as “catastrophic”, yet we now know that fish and some calcifying critters adapt naturally to changes far larger than that every year, sometimes in just a month, and in extreme cases, in just a day.

Data was collected by 15 individual SeaFET sensors in seven types of marine habitats.  Four sites were fairly stable (1, which includes the open ocean, and also sites 2,3,4) but most of the rest were highly variable (esp site 15 near Italy and 14 near Mexico) . On a monthly scale the pH varies by 0.024 to 1.430 pH units.

The authors draw two conclusions: (1) most non-open ocean sites vary a lot, and (2) and some spots vary so much they reach the “extreme” pH’s forecast for the doomsday future scenarios on a daily (a daily!) basis.

At Puerto Morelos (in Mexico’s easternmost state, on the Yucatán Peninsula) the pH varied as much as 0.3 units per hour due to groundwater springs. Each day the pH bottomed at about 10am, and peaked shortly after sunset. These extreme sites tell us that some marine life can cope with larger, faster swings than the apocalyptic predictions suggest, though of course, no one is suggesting that the entire global ocean would be happy with similar extreme swings.

Even the more stable and vast open ocean is not a fixed pH all year round. Hofmann writes that “Open-water areas (in the Southern Ocean) experience a strong seasonal shift in seawater pH (~0.3–0.5 units) between austral summer and winter.”

This paper is such a game changer, they talk about rewriting the null hypothesis:

“This natural variability has prompted the suggestion that “an appropriate null hypothesis may be, until evidence is obtained to the contrary, that major biogeochemical processes in the oceans other than calcification will not be fundamentally different under future higher CO2/lower pH conditions””

http://joannenova.com.au/2012/01/scripps-blockbuster-ocean-acidification-happens...

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Reply #6 - Oct 7th, 2013 at 1:39pm
 
Ajax wrote on Oct 7th, 2013 at 1:25pm:
Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 7th, 2013 at 1:10pm:
Ajax wrote on Oct 7th, 2013 at 12:24pm:
Innocent bystander wrote on Oct 7th, 2013 at 11:42am:
They are trying to morph global warming err I mean climate change into ocean acidification now that the climate is not actually changing, be afraid ... be very afraid  Grin


So true Innocent_bystander

Once their theory gets shot down they quickly jump on to something else.

Lucky we have sceptics otherwise these stooges would be worshipping the IPCC findings like some sort of ten commandments from God himself.


Acidification of the earths oceans and fresh water ways caused by increased CO2 absorption from the atmosphere is a fact

By the way, reference to Acidification problems has been included in ALL of the IPCC report released thus far.

Not that I would expect you denialist fossil priests to have read any peer reviewed literature on the subject let alone the executive summary of the IPCC reports.

See what happens when you post spin and deceit?

Always ends up the same way hey darkened Batman and his newly found side kick innocent bystander


Like I said chimp, lucky we have sceptics to keep the alarmist propaganda under the microscope.


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You seem to be confusing SCEPTICISM with DENIALISM

Only one of these is a crack pot baseless fundamentalist religion

Do you know which one it is?
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She sells sea shells on the sea shore;
The shells that she sells are sea shells I'm sure.
So if she sells sea shells on the sea shore,
I'm sure that the shells are sea shore shells.


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Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 7th, 2013 at 1:39pm:
You seem to be confusing SCEPTICISM with DENIALISM

Only one of these is a crack pot baseless fundamentalist religion

Do you know which one it is?


I do but I have my doubts about you.........!!! Cheesy Grin Tongue Kiss
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The flaw in Joanne Nova's argument:

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Reply #10 - Oct 7th, 2013 at 9:47pm
 
Ajax wrote on Oct 7th, 2013 at 2:58pm:
Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 7th, 2013 at 1:39pm:
You seem to be confusing SCEPTICISM with DENIALISM

Only one of these is a crack pot baseless fundamentalist religion

Do you know which one it is?


I do but I have my doubts about you.........!!! Cheesy Grin Tongue Kiss


I hope so..... its very much a compliment

On the other hand I don't have any doubts about where you are coming from (that's assuming that you even know where you are)

[are you sure you wish to continue with this line of combat? It is looking a little embarrassing for you at the moment Mr Batman]
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Reply #11 - Oct 7th, 2013 at 9:51pm
 
Ajax wrote on Oct 7th, 2013 at 12:24pm:
Once their theory gets shot down they quickly jump on to something else.




Actually, it's not a theory any more.

Chimp has proclaimed that AGW is "an undeniable fact".

Nice way to shut down debate, eh?   Wink


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greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 7th, 2013 at 9:51pm:
Ajax wrote on Oct 7th, 2013 at 12:24pm:
Once their theory gets shot down they quickly jump on to something else.




Actually, it's not a theory any more.

Chimp has proclaimed that AGW is "an undeniable fact".

Nice way to shut down debate, eh?   Wink


Hey Greg

Its really amusing how they can't bare their science being scrutinised and yet that is what science is all about.

HHMMMNnnnn...........undeniable fact.....hey chimp

Like the hot spot in the tropopause that only exists in the computer circulation models of the alarmists....????

Like the missing heat of the last 15 years being sucked into the bottom layers of the ocean.......???????

OR was that the top layers of the ocean.....?????

Like no more glaciers by 2035.........??????

Like no more ice in the arctic by 2013......?????

Like ocean acidity of 0.3 pH units over the next 90 years will be catastrophic when ocean acidity changes much more than this on a daily bases.

Like the shonkey hockey stick which no one is allowed to analyse and climate gate......????

Like the correlation of temperature and CO2...???

Like rising sea levels which are not out of the norm...???

Like all natural disasters are due to AGW....???

Like they haven't tried this before in the 1940's and 1970's..??

Like the IPCC's 1990 prediction of unequivocal warming of 0.2 degrees celcius per decade when for the last 15 years we have only had 0.05 degrees celcius per decade.

And many more of your undeniable facts that have been nailed down once and for all as pseudo science.

Lucky for you chimp the sceptics can recognise snake oil when they see it.

Otherwise all these undeniable facts would have been gospel to you and your stupid AGW religion, and you guys would have defended this pseudo science to your graves.

The undeniable fact is sceptics are keeping these twits on the AGW gravy train honest.......!!!!!!





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Reply #13 - Oct 8th, 2013 at 8:22am
 
Ajax wrote on Oct 8th, 2013 at 7:46am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 7th, 2013 at 9:51pm:
Ajax wrote on Oct 7th, 2013 at 12:24pm:
Once their theory gets shot down they quickly jump on to something else.




Actually, it's not a theory any more.

Chimp has proclaimed that AGW is "an undeniable fact".

Nice way to shut down debate, eh?   Wink


Hey Greg

Its really amusing how they can't bare their science being scrutinised and yet that is what science is all about.




The best way to avoid scrutiny is to label something as "an undeniable fact".

However, making a statement like that is also the best way to show that one is not really interested in (or indeed, aware of) the scientific method.  It's an indicator of both extreme arrogance and ignorance.

Claiming that AGW is an "undeniable ... fact of nature" is about as closed-minded as it gets.  Not a good quality, when it comes to science.i

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Reply #14 - Oct 8th, 2013 at 12:58pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 8th, 2013 at 8:22am:
Ajax wrote on Oct 8th, 2013 at 7:46am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 7th, 2013 at 9:51pm:
Ajax wrote on Oct 7th, 2013 at 12:24pm:
Once their theory gets shot down they quickly jump on to something else.




Actually, it's not a theory any more.

Chimp has proclaimed that AGW is "an undeniable fact".

Nice way to shut down debate, eh?   Wink


Hey Greg

Its really amusing how they can't bare their science being scrutinised and yet that is what science is all about.




The best way to avoid scrutiny is to label something as "an undeniable fact".

However, making a statement like that is also the best way to show that one is not really interested in (or indeed, aware of) the scientific method.  It's an indicator of both extreme arrogance and ignorance.

Claiming that AGW is an "undeniable ... fact of nature" is about as closed-minded as it gets.  Not a good quality, when it comes to science.i



So its a theory that CO2 concentration in the atmosphere has increased due to human activities?

Its a theory that CO2 is a greenhouse gas?

Its a theory that the earth has been warming?

Do you understand what the words in AGW even mean?

Anthropogenic Global Warming is an UNDENIABLE, OBSERVABLE FACT.

To deny it in public says a lot about how much you understand - and that's very little

Humans will be dealing with the AGW FACT even if you don't come along Greggy boy.

Its not about you Greggy - this is about responsible adults who care about their future and what sort of world their children will live in.

What you should do is publish your THEORY in peer reviewed theoretical journals. Good luck with the FACTS Greegy Boy
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