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Reply #15 - Oct 13^th, 2013 at 7:45pm

freediver wrote on Oct 13^th, 2013 at 12:20pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 13^th, 2013 at 11:16am:

The_Barnacle wrote on Oct 13^th, 2013 at 10:48am:

freediver wrote on Oct 13^th, 2013 at 10:40am:

So what is your opinion of Islam?

It is the same as my opinion on all religions. I think they are misguided and I have issues with some of the things they do.

Having said that, I don't condemn all Christians for the actions of a few pedophiles and the US warmongering government.

I also don't condemn all muslims for the actions of a few terrorists

According to Freediver and Co. that will make you "spineless" and an "apologetic". Anybody who believes in giving Muslims a fair go, gets thus branded in an effort to try and keep them quiet.

Spineless is when you insist that Muslims have a right to chop people's heads of for blasphemy, and that you have no right to criticise and are incapable of criticising because you are not a member of their nation and religion.

Misunderstanding what was said, still, FD? Roll Eyes

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The_Barnacle wrote on Oct 13^th, 2013 at 10:48am:

I also don't condemn all muslims for the actions of a few terrorists

That's not really what this is about but, is it?

It is, by suggesting that radical, extremist, salaphist Takfiri Muslims are representative of all Muslims, FD. Of course, that is what you'd prefer people to believe but it's good to see some people are still unwilling to accept your bigoted viewpoint. Roll Eyes

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Reply #16 - Oct 13^th, 2013 at 8:03pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 13^th, 2013 at 11:16am:

According to Freediver and Co. that will make you "spineless" and an "apologetic". Anybody who believes in giving Muslims a fair go, gets thus branded in an effort to try and keep them quiet.

Muslims get a fairer go in Australia, Canada, NZ, the UK or the US than anywhere in the 'Muslim lands'.

Yet they attack all these countries as well as the 'Muslim lands'.

But Islam has nuffin' to do wiv nuffin'.

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Reply #17 - Oct 13^th, 2013 at 8:36pm

Soren wrote on Oct 13^th, 2013 at 8:03pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 13^th, 2013 at 11:16am:

According to Freediver and Co. that will make you "spineless" and an "apologetic". Anybody who believes in giving Muslims a fair go, gets thus branded in an effort to try and keep them quiet.

Muslims get a fairer go in Australia, Canada, NZ, the UK or the US than anywhere in the 'Muslim lands'.

Yet they attack all these countries as well as the 'Muslim lands'.

But Islam has nuffin' to do wiv nuffin'.

Some Muslims do, Soren. Not all Muslims do. You however, would prefer to utilise guilty by association and brand all Muslims as being "attackers". That is not fair. You are merely the mirror-image of the intolerance and hatred that you claim you oppose. Roll Eyes

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Reply #18 - Oct 13^th, 2013 at 9:01pm

So we must bend over backwards to be more tolerant of Islamic intolerance to prove to Brian that we are not as intolerant as the intolerance we criticise? And we can start this by insisting we have no right to criticise (unless we are a Muslim from the same country) but Muslims have the right to do whatever they want, including chopping people's heads of?

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Reply #19 - Oct 13^th, 2013 at 9:29pm

freediver wrote on Oct 13^th, 2013 at 9:01pm:

So we must bend over backwards to be more tolerant of Islamic intolerance to prove to Brian that we are not as intolerant as the intolerance we criticise? And we can start this by insisting we have no right to criticise (unless we are a Muslim from the same country) but Muslims have the right to do whatever they want, including chopping people's heads of?

Yeah, onya freediver.......is there not a dedicated Muslim Board here? Huh? You know there is, but far be it from you to miss any chance to spread the fear and loathing.

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True Colours Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2837 Gender:	Re: Islam in Australia and what it wants Reply #21 - Oct 13^th, 2013 at 9:38pm Why does the owner of this website run an anti-Islam wiki? Anybody else find that creepy? Imagine if someone trying to pose as legitimate ran an anti-Jew wiki.
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Reply #22 - Oct 13^th, 2013 at 10:01pm

True Colours wrote on Oct 13^th, 2013 at 9:38pm:

Why does the owner of this website run an anti-Islam wiki?

Anybody else find that creepy?

Imagine if someone trying to pose as legitimate ran an anti-Jew wiki.

Oh surely you must have noticed that freediver wants to attack Islam at every opportunity on a literal basis and convenient transference of values from one millennium to another. It is just as easy to attack Christianity. I just ignore him on that matter now, as completely unbalanced.

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Reply #23 - Oct 13^th, 2013 at 11:40pm

freediver wrote on Oct 13^th, 2013 at 9:01pm:

So we must bend over backwards to be more tolerant of Islamic intolerance to prove to Brian that we are not as intolerant as the intolerance we criticise? And we can start this by insisting we have no right to criticise (unless we are a Muslim from the same country) but Muslims have the right to do whatever they want, including chopping people's heads of?

You don't have to, FD. What you have to understand and refuse to is that not all Muslims support intolerance. They are undeserving of your opprobrium, FD and that has been explained to you many, many times but you continue with your condemnation through guilt by association. Even worse, you keep perpetuating the same falsehoods about their religion and it's leader and no matter how often you're shown that your views aren't sensible or correct, you just keep returning to them in an endless diatribe against Muslims and Islam. Now, that is the essence of bigotry, Freediver. Roll Eyes

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Old Codger Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 547 Melbourne. Gender:	Re: Islam in Australia and what it wants Reply #24 - Oct 14^th, 2013 at 5:34am I agree with the man at the WTC on 911:- "Everything I needed to know about islam, I learned on 911". I thought of that in 2004, looking into that terrible hole in the ground, and I would not trust them a far as i could throw them. And the "tiny minority" excuse is bovine excreta! OC
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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: Islam in Australia and what it wants Reply #25 - Oct 14^th, 2013 at 5:41am I'm not a bit worried about Islam or Muslims, it's just the spread of fear that even gives those fanatics a voice. Muslim terrorists nah!!!!! they don't even have a very high kill rate, they're minor players in the world of evil.
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Reply #26 - Oct 14^th, 2013 at 11:02am

Old Codger wrote on Oct 14^th, 2013 at 5:34am:

I agree with the man at the WTC on 911:-

"Everything I needed to know about islam, I learned on 911".

I thought of that in 2004, looking into that terrible hole in the ground, and I would not trust them a far as i could throw them. And the "tiny minority" excuse is bovine excreta!
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Old Codger Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 547 Melbourne. Gender:	Re: Islam in Australia and what it wants Reply #27 - Oct 14^th, 2013 at 12:21pm "You paint with a very broad brush it seems!" Yep, but i have been quite restrained so far. I should tell you how I REALLY feel. OC
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\|dev\|null Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4434 Gender:	Re: Islam in Australia and what it wants Reply #28 - Oct 14^th, 2013 at 12:51pm Go ahead! Tell us what you really feel! It will be no different to what all the other Racists, Xenophobes and Bigots say!
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Reply #29 - Oct 14^th, 2013 at 1:52pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 13^th, 2013 at 8:36pm:

Soren wrote on Oct 13^th, 2013 at 8:03pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 13^th, 2013 at 11:16am:

According to Freediver and Co. that will make you "spineless" and an "apologetic". Anybody who believes in giving Muslims a fair go, gets thus branded in an effort to try and keep them quiet.

Muslims get a fairer go in Australia, Canada, NZ, the UK or the US than anywhere in the 'Muslim lands'.

Yet they attack all these countries as well as the 'Muslim lands'.

But Islam has nuffin' to do wiv nuffin'.

Some Muslims do, Soren. Not all Muslims do.

D'oh!

The pertinent point is that the ones who do attack, do so IN THE NAME of Islam, with rock-solid Islamic credentials.

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