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Coffee could lead to licentiousness
Oct 15^th, 2013 at 9:09am

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In Kuwait, mixed-gender coffee shops are a ‘menace’

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Kuwaiti lawmakers have called for the closure of mixed-gender coffee shops where men and women interact together and smoke shisha in Kuwait city, the UAE-based Gulf News reported on Sunday.

The MPs are calling the coffee shops “immoral” and a “menace” to society, according to Gulf News.

Three Kuwaiti ministers could be interrogated by parliament if the places are not closed within one month, warned the lawmakers.

“We will not hesitate to grill the competent ministers if these immoral coffee shops are not shut down within one month,” MP Askar al-Enezi said, quoted by local media, reported Gulf News.

Enezi also took part in a rally on Saturday to push for actions against the coffee shops especially in the al-Jahra area, where other MPs, residents and religious figures accused the shops of promoting vice.

“Such coffee shops have no room in our society as they violate our very traditions and customs as well as the spirit of the Constitution which stipulates the state's responsibility in maintaining the values of the family considered as the core of the community and in protecting the youth,” Gulf News quoted him as saying.

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/variety/2013/10/13/In-Kuwait-mixed-shisha-coffee...

As-salam alaykum brothers and sisters. It is a well known fact in polite Islamic society (an oxymoron for sure) that consumption of coffee leads to immoral behaviour. I myself was raped by 4 women after what I thought was an innocent visit to Mo's Coffee Lounge and Emporium. Four women poured coffee into me and then when I was having trouble trying to control my raging erection they took it in turns to rape me.

I think the only sensible thing to do is ban coffee. The frothing-at-the-mouth lunatics in our religion will find some passage in the Kran that says coffee is evil. Islam is that mad and its that madness that attracted me to the alleged religion in the first place.

Inshallah. Remember that Halla never allowed coffee to pass his lips.

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Re: Coffee could lead to licentiousness
Reply #1 - Oct 15^th, 2013 at 9:12pm

Funnily enough, the same claim was made about Coffee Houses in 18th century England. Hot beds of licentiousness apparent. Often had brothels attached to them. It is one reason why the UK determinedly turn to Tea drinking in the 19th century according to one historian I'm aware of. The respectable ladies didn't like their men going off to drink Coffee and consorting with naughty ladies of negotiable virtue. Tea could be brewed easily at home. Much better for English family life! Grin

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Coffee could lead to licentiousness Reply #2 - Oct 15^th, 2013 at 9:34pm hahahaha!!!! Arabs are 200 years behind!!! hahahah!! Doesn't that make England look funny??? hahahha!! You are a pathologically squishy bedwetter, Brain. Just stupendously wet and reflexively spineless.
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Reply #3 - Oct 16^th, 2013 at 10:45am

salad in wrote on Oct 15^th, 2013 at 9:09am:

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In Kuwait, mixed-gender coffee shops are a ‘menace’

Al Arabiya

Kuwaiti lawmakers have called for the closure of mixed-gender coffee shops where men and women interact together and smoke shisha in Kuwait city, the UAE-based Gulf News reported on Sunday.

The MPs are calling the coffee shops “immoral” and a “menace” to society, according to Gulf News.

Three Kuwaiti ministers could be interrogated by parliament if the places are not closed within one month, warned the lawmakers.

“We will not hesitate to grill the competent ministers if these immoral coffee shops are not shut down within one month,” MP Askar al-Enezi said, quoted by local media, reported Gulf News.

Enezi also took part in a rally on Saturday to push for actions against the coffee shops especially in the al-Jahra area, where other MPs, residents and religious figures accused the shops of promoting vice.

“Such coffee shops have no room in our society as they violate our very traditions and customs as well as the spirit of the Constitution which stipulates the state's responsibility in maintaining the values of the family considered as the core of the community and in protecting the youth,” Gulf News quoted him as saying.

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/variety/2013/10/13/In-Kuwait-mixed-shisha-coffee...

As-salam alaykum brothers and sisters. It is a well known fact in polite Islamic society (an oxymoron for sure) that consumption of coffee leads to immoral behaviour. I myself was raped by 4 women after what I thought was an innocent visit to Mo's Coffee Lounge and Emporium. Four women poured coffee into me and then when I was having trouble trying to control my raging erection they took it in turns to rape me.

Salaam Aleikum, my sister, peace be with you. I am most sorry for your loss of honour. You must not go to these coffee lounge again!

Gud is great, sister. Now you have no more vaargin, you can get a good jobs as pleasure boy. Insh'allah, many men you can make happy.

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Re: Coffee could lead to licentiousness
Reply #4 - Oct 16^th, 2013 at 10:35pm

Soren wrote on Oct 15^th, 2013 at 9:34pm:

hahahaha!!!!

Arabs are 200 years behind!!!

hahahah!!

Doesn't that make England look funny???

hahahha!!

You are a pathologically squishy bedwetter, Brain. Just stupendously wet and reflexively spineless.

Good ad hominem response there, Soren. Is it the best you can do in response to a factual post? Its obvious I know more history than you do. How does that make me a, " pathologically squishy bedwetter, Brain. Just stupendously wet and reflexively spineless"? Roll Eyes

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Winston Smith Gold Member Offline Ministry of Truth Posts: 1549 Oceania Gender:	Re: Coffee could lead to licentiousness Reply #5 - Oct 16^th, 2013 at 10:36pm Seriously, do we really smacking need an 'Islam' section on these forums? It's embarassing.
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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 40936	Re: Coffee could lead to licentiousness Reply #6 - Oct 16^th, 2013 at 10:37pm Winston Smith wrote on Oct 16^th, 2013 at 10:36pm: Serious, do we really smacking need an 'Islam' section on these forums? It's embarassing. I agree. Seems rather pointless when every second thread is about Islamophobia.
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Reply #7 - Oct 16^th, 2013 at 10:54pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16^th, 2013 at 10:35pm:

Soren wrote on Oct 15^th, 2013 at 9:34pm:

hahahaha!!!!

Arabs are 200 years behind!!!

hahahah!!

Doesn't that make England look funny???

hahahha!!

You are a pathologically squishy bedwetter, Brain. Just stupendously wet and reflexively spineless.

Good ad hominem response there, Soren. Is it the best you can do in response to a factual post? Its obvious I know more history than you do. How does that make me a, " pathologically squishy bedwetter, Brain. Just stupendously wet and reflexively spineless"? Roll Eyes

You silly twit. Making excuses IS a judgement, you silly, befuddled old fool.

You are ready to excuse today's stupid Muslims on the basis of oblique innuendo about 18th century English customs but you would rather die in a ditch that judge today's stupid Muslim practices by today's Western standards.
You are a strictly one-way anachronist, Brain. Hence your richly deserved "reflexive squishy bed-wetting boob" title.

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Re: Coffee could lead to licentiousness
Reply #8 - Oct 16^th, 2013 at 11:49pm

Soren wrote on Oct 16^th, 2013 at 10:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16^th, 2013 at 10:35pm:

Soren wrote on Oct 15^th, 2013 at 9:34pm:

hahahaha!!!!

Arabs are 200 years behind!!!

hahahah!!

Doesn't that make England look funny???

hahahha!!

You are a pathologically squishy bedwetter, Brain. Just stupendously wet and reflexively spineless.

Good ad hominem response there, Soren. Is it the best you can do in response to a factual post? Its obvious I know more history than you do. How does that make me a, " pathologically squishy bedwetter, Brain. Just stupendously wet and reflexively spineless"? Roll Eyes

You silly twit. Making excuses IS a judgement, you silly, befuddled old fool.

Where in this thread have I made excuses for anybody? Roll Eyes

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You are ready to excuse today's stupid Muslims on the basis of oblique innuendo about 18th century English customs but you would rather die in a ditch that judge today's stupid Muslim practices by today's Western standards.

I made no excuses, I merely drew a parallel, nothing more with an interesting historical tidbit about 18th century England. You appear unable to understand that something might be said that is simply "Quite Interesting", Soren. Roll Eyes

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You are a strictly one-way anachronist, Brain. Hence your richly deserved "reflexive squishy bed-wetting boob" title.

Excellent example of ad hominem debate, Sore. Keep it up. Rather proves my point that you're a bigot. Roll Eyes

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Re: Coffee could lead to licentiousness
Reply #9 - Oct 17^th, 2013 at 6:47am

Winston Smith wrote on Oct 16^th, 2013 at 10:36pm:

Seriously, do we really smacking need an 'Islam' section on these forums? It's embarassing.

What should we replace it with? How about we have an "interesting hairstyles of 2013" or "when to split and re-pot orchids". We live in an OPEN and free society where everything should be examined by those who are interested.

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Re: Coffee could lead to licentiousness
Reply #10 - Oct 17^th, 2013 at 11:27am

salad in wrote on Oct 17^th, 2013 at 6:47am:

Winston Smith wrote on Oct 16^th, 2013 at 10:36pm:

Seriously, do we really smacking need an 'Islam' section on these forums? It's embarassing.

What should we replace it with? How about we have an "interesting hairstyles of 2013" or "when to split and re-pot orchids". We live in an OPEN and free society where everything should be examined by those who are interested.

Examined? Muslims suffer something more akin to Open-Heart Surgery, daily here, than a mere "examination" of their views/beliefs/attitudes/religion. It is incredibly intrusive and more often than not drive by prejudice and Xenophobia than genuine interest and it's invariably conducted by butchers, than highly trained surgeons! Cheesy

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Reply #11 - Oct 17^th, 2013 at 11:54am

Winston Smith wrote on Oct 16^th, 2013 at 10:36pm:

Seriously, do we really smacking need an 'Islam' section on these forums? It's embarassing.

Islam is more than just a religion it is a political ideology that governs in parts of the world like the Islamic republic of Iran.

Iran is ruled by Islamic law administered by the Mad Mullah's so why should any political system that governs be above criticism in a politics forum, do you think Islamic rule should be above any criticism, do fascists tolerate critics, does Iran execute critics of the ruling Islamic regime by declaring them an enemy of god, why do you support a fascist political ideology like Islam?

Was the Islam section of this forum created by an aussie muslim called Abu Rashid who is also the absent moderator?

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 103063 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Coffee could lead to licentiousness Reply #12 - Oct 17^th, 2013 at 11:58am Ban coffee because it leads to promiscuity.
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Reply #13 - Oct 17^th, 2013 at 12:12pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 17^th, 2013 at 11:54am:

Winston Smith wrote on Oct 16^th, 2013 at 10:36pm:

Seriously, do we really smacking need an 'Islam' section on these forums? It's embarassing.

Islam is more than just a religion it is a political ideology that governs in parts of the world like the Islamic republic of Iran.

No, that is Islamism.
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is a set of ideologies holding that "Islam should guide social and political as well as personal life".[1] Islamism is a controversial neologism, and definitions of it sometimes vary (see below). Leading Islamist thinkers emphasize the implementation of Sharia (Islamic law); of pan-Islamic political unity; and of the selective removal of non-Muslim, particularly Western military, economic, political, social, or cultural influences in the Muslim world that they believe to be incompatible with Islam.[2] Some observers suggest Islamism's tenets are less strict, and can be defined as a form of identity politics or "support for [Muslim] identity, authenticity, broader regionalism, revivalism, [and] revitalization of the community".[3] And following the Arab Spring political Islam has been described as "increasingly interdependent" with political democracy.[4]

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamism]

Comparable movements in other religions are Zionism, "Political Christianity" and Hinduism or "Hindu Chauvinism". All are the political aspirations of the religion. Islamism is not unique.

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Iran is ruled by Islamic law administered by the Mad Mullah's so why should any political system that governs be above criticism in a politics forum, do you think Islamic rule should be above any criticism, do fascists tolerate critics, does Iran execute critics of the ruling Islamic regime by declaring them an enemy of god, why do you support a fascist political ideology like Islam?

So, you'd have real problems coping with Communism then? What about the dictatorships which brook no criticism of their leader and their political movements? Again, the Islamic Republic of Iran is not unique in this regard yet your bigotry ensures you single it out because of it's religious basis. Cheesy

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Was the Islam section of this forum created by an aussie muslim called Abu Rashid who is also the absent moderator?

No idea. Do I care? Nope. I suspect Freediver created it, as he's the administrator. Cheesy

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Re: Coffee could lead to licentiousness
Reply #14 - Oct 17^th, 2013 at 12:55pm

|dev|null wrote on Oct 17^th, 2013 at 12:12pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 17^th, 2013 at 11:54am:

Winston Smith wrote on Oct 16^th, 2013 at 10:36pm:

Seriously, do we really smacking need an 'Islam' section on these forums? It's embarassing.

Islam is more than just a religion it is a political ideology that governs in parts of the world like the Islamic republic of Iran.

No, that is Islam.
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is a set of ideologies holding that "Islam should guide social and political as well as personal life".[1] Islamism is a controversial neologism, and definitions of it sometimes vary (see below). Leading Islamist thinkers emphasize the implementation of Sharia (Islamic law); of pan-Islamic political unity; and of the selective removal of non-Muslim, particularly Western military, economic, political, social, or cultural influences in the Muslim world that they believe to be incompatible with Islam.[2] Some observers suggest Islamism's tenets are less strict, and can be defined as a form of identity politics or "support for [Muslim] identity, authenticity, broader regionalism, revivalism, [and] revitalization of the community".[3] And following the Arab Spring political Islam has been described as "increasingly interdependent" with political democracy.[4]

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamism]

Comparable movements in other religions are none.

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Iran is ruled by Islamic law administered by the Mad Mullah's so why should any political system that governs be above criticism in a politics forum, do you think Islamic rule should be above any criticism, do fascists tolerate critics, does Iran execute critics of the ruling Islamic regime by declaring them an enemy of god, why do you support a fascist political ideology like Islam?

So, you'd have real problems coping with Communism then? Strawman What about the dictatorships which brook no criticism of their leader and their political movements?strawman Again, the Islamic Republic of Iran is not unique in this regard yet your bigotry ensures you single it out because of it's religious basis. Human rights watch and amnesty international are critical of the ruling Islamic regime which you stick up for Cheesy

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Was the Islam section of this forum created by an aussie muslim called Abu Rashid who is also the absent moderator?

No idea. Do I care? Nope. I suspect Freediver created it, as he's the administrator.
It was created by a muslim, dont let your ignorance get in the way of the truth.

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Political aspects of Islam are derived from the Quran and sunnah.

The origins of Islam as a political movement are to be found in the life and times of Islam's profit Mohammad and his successors.

Unlike christianity,Islam does not have separation from religion and state.

www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_aspects_of_Islam

So who are the hypocrites in the Quran, is that what allah calls moderate muslims?
www.quran.com/9/73

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