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Re: “Catastrophic” Fire Conditions Arrive Early
Reply #15 - Oct 26^th, 2013 at 10:18pm

Ajax wrote on Oct 26^th, 2013 at 4:04pm:

How about asking the greenies why they have banned back burning and clearing of forests.

There's a reason why all this use to be done.

And now with these new tragic events in NSW its apparent why we used to back burn and clear.

are the Greenies in charge of everything?

about 70% of the forest cover in Victoria alone has been cleared since the British invaded and thieved this land in 1788.

You gate trees now?

a source of oxygen for you to breathe?

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Reply #16 - Oct 27^th, 2013 at 1:01am

muso wrote on Oct 26^th, 2013 at 8:12pm:

Actually after that post, I checked the Greens' NSW Website, and they don't seem to be opposed to Hazard Reduction burns. They are not even in power in fact. So where exactly did you get your information from?

http://nsw.greens.org.au/policies/bushfires

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While recognising that controlled burning is only one form of bush fire risk reduction, The Greens have not been responsible for restricting its use. We are committed to an effective and scientifically based approach to hazard reduction, which takes into account the needs of both the human and natural environments.

Usually the Fire Service make decisions on the issuing of permits on the basis of Risk Management, and they have been using the same protocol for years.

Not in all cases Muso. Often the permits are issued by local government (depending on state laws). And the 'Greenies' mentioned are not the Greens party per se but rather councillors/local government employees of an environnazi' bent.

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Reply #17 - Oct 27^th, 2013 at 11:28am

muso wrote on Oct 26^th, 2013 at 8:12pm:

Actually after that post, I checked the Greens' NSW Website, and they don't seem to be opposed to Hazard Reduction burns. They are not even in power in fact. So where exactly did you get your information from?

http://nsw.greens.org.au/policies/bushfires

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While recognising that controlled burning is only one form of bush fire risk reduction, The Greens have not been responsible for restricting its use. We are committed to an effective and scientifically based approach to hazard reduction, which takes into account the needs of both the human and natural environments.

Usually the Fire Service make decisions on the issuing of permits on the basis of Risk Management, and they have been using the same protocol for years.

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Why greenies only make me see red

Miranda Devine
Tuesday, October 22, 2013 (7:26pm)

BILL Leak, acclaimed cartoonist, lives in one of the loveliest places in Australia: Killcare, on the Central Coast.

But one of the consequences of living in the middle of the Australian bush is fire.

And in pretty seachange and treechange communities, you’re likely to find yourself in a greenie council dominated by refugees from the city who haven’t a clue about the real dangers of living among trees.

So it is that at the start of a dangerous bushfire season, Leak finds himself with a backyard full of trees and flammable material that he is forbidden to clear by Gosford Council on threat of fines as high as $1.1 million.

“Here I am, living on the edge of bushland that could burst into flame at any time, and I’m not allowed to clear the land in my own backyard of trees that, in the event of a fire, will bring the fire straight into my home,” he says.

Council flora preservation policies warn that the removal of any native tree over 3m can attract hefty fines.

This “puts homes like mine in grave danger: the refusal of local councils to allow home owners to remove trees that can extend the bushland right up to our own back doors,” Leak says.

“The only possible explanation for this is the council is hell-bent on securing Green votes. I’ll accept, albeit unwillingly, the indulgence of Greens fantasies up to a point but if and when they cost me my house I think I’ll have to say, ‘A line has been crossed’.”

Yes indeed.

How many warnings do councils need before they understand that tea trees and eucalypts and other lovely natives, not to mention shrubs and organic litter on the ground, are lethal near homes in fireprone areas.

It’s bad enough that properties are being burned out by unstoppable infernos that erupt out of neglected national parks. But to actively stop people from protecting their homes by forbidding them to remove fire fuel on their own land is insanity.

Gosford Council is not alone, or even the worst.

the rest here
http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/mirandadevine/index.php/dailytelegraph/c...

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Re: “Catastrophic” Fire Conditions Arrive Early
Reply #18 - Oct 27^th, 2013 at 11:34am

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 26^th, 2013 at 10:18pm:

Ajax wrote on Oct 26^th, 2013 at 4:04pm:

How about asking the greenies why they have banned back burning and clearing of forests.

There's a reason why all this use to be done.

And now with these new tragic events in NSW its apparent why we used to back burn and clear.

are the Greenies in charge of everything?

about 70% of the forest cover in Victoria alone has been cleared since the British invaded and thieved this land in 1788.

You gate trees now?

a source of oxygen for you to breathe?

Why is it then that many Australians living in bush fire zones complain about the green policies that wont let them clear their land............??????

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Re: “Catastrophic” Fire Conditions Arrive Early
Reply #19 - Oct 27^th, 2013 at 12:34pm

Ajax wrote on Oct 27^th, 2013 at 11:34am:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 26^th, 2013 at 10:18pm:

Ajax wrote on Oct 26^th, 2013 at 4:04pm:

How about asking the greenies why they have banned back burning and clearing of forests.

There's a reason why all this use to be done.

And now with these new tragic events in NSW its apparent why we used to back burn and clear.

are the Greenies in charge of everything?

about 70% of the forest cover in Victoria alone has been cleared since the British invaded and thieved this land in 1788.

You gate trees now?

a source of oxygen for you to breathe?

Why is it then that many Australians living in bush fire zones complain about the green policies that wont let them clear their land............??????

Are you saying that these policies and laws are implemented by the Green party?

really?

You want a continent that is totally void of trees?

What is the Australian law concerning what forests an tree cover can be cleared

Victoria has cleared 70% of its forests and tree cover since 1788, and there are still bush fires - in fact the most destructive bush fire occurred in 2009.

And some trees and vegetation actually require fire to germinate.

Bush fires are part of the landscape. The indigenous people lived with, adapted and managed these fires very well for many tens of thousands of years.

What do you think Ajax? Do you think bush fire frequency and intensity will worsen as the globe warms up?

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