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Reply #31 - Oct 30^th, 2013 at 5:37am

Wars are pointless, invasions and the slaughter of thousands of innocent people is abhorrent. War achieves nothing but large scale misery.

Old men dressed in suits who sit in boardrooms send young men away to die in war.

Afghanistan.....we went to rid the world of terrorism.....and made it worse.

That was a failure.

Didn't Gillard go over to Afghanistan last year and tell the boys the war was over?

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andrei said: Great isn't it? Seeing boatloads of what is nothing more than human garbage turn up.....

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Reply #32 - Oct 30^th, 2013 at 6:32am

> Didn't Gillard go over to Afghanistan last year and tell the boys the war was over?

Yes, but times have changed. If you're not aware of the fake "gold bars" that have popped up here and there, you won't realize the embarassment caused by Germany's request to repatriate its national gold holdings from Fort Knox. The Americans replied that yes, certainly, they could have their gold back - in five years time. The "gold bars" left in Fort Knox are only gold-plated tungsten, and it'll take few years for the honest American banksters to find some more. If you examine the assets of African nations that have had a recent upsurge in "cross-border terrorist insurgency", it's no coincidence that gold features high on the list. Other countries are also expressing consternation about the purity of their own gold stocks at the "impregnable" Fort.

And just to drive home the message, only two countries in the Middle East have their own independent central banks that are not part of the international federal reserve system. Go on, it's not hard to guess! Yep, spot on! Iran and Syria.

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Reply #33 - Oct 30^th, 2013 at 7:09am

GoneWest wrote on Oct 29^th, 2013 at 4:56pm:

Given the number of "views" this post has attracted, I'll point out that I'd hoped it could go in a very different direction.

If, as Abbott has correctly stated, this IS the end of "Australia's longest war", it is not only an historic occasion, but one most deserving of critical reflection. The flood of "boat-people" we cannot stop is an inevitable response to the moral debt we have incurred by illegally invading a foreign country and murdering innocent civilians there.

But given that public debate is now dominated by the sort of knuckle-draggers inhabiting this forum, there's little likelihood of an intelligent response to a crucial historic moment.

What did you expect for your opening troll, you winner?

You got your arse handed to you, like all useless trolls. Stop whinging like a little b1tch and find somewhere else to troll your crap.

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Reply #34 - Oct 30^th, 2013 at 7:13am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 30^th, 2013 at 5:37am:

Wars are pointless, invasions and the slaughter of thousands of innocent people is abhorrent. War achieves nothing but large scale misery.

We are still in Timor after we invaded (without US permission) over a decade ago and I haven't heard a peep out of you 'war haters'.

Maybe you should go on a hateful rant about us invading Timor and ruining their lives too, you know just tobe consistant about your hatred for those who serve and our current foreign policy of invasion.

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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: Australia's longest war has ended. Reply #35 - Oct 30^th, 2013 at 8:08am BigOl64 wrote on Oct 30^th, 2013 at 7:13am: I haven't heard a peep out of you 'war haters'. As opposed to 'war lovers'.... is that the antitheses of "make love-not war" the bigole version "make war-not love" you sick minded individual
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Reply #36 - Oct 30^th, 2013 at 8:48am

> you sick minded individual

Sad but true. There's nothing the least bit noble or honourable about modern warfare; it's merely disciplined hi-tech murder in the service of banksters and megalomaniacs. I'm strongly of the opinion that the study of the classics should be mandatory in high-school to emphasize the vast changes since the time when men met face-to-face on the field of battle, and equal challenged equal. It may have been brutal and bloody, but there was a real sense of honour and respect for one's foe.

For me, the break came with the napalming of women and children in peaceful IndoChinese villages during the Vietnam conflict. Even worse were the covert teams of big Yankee niggaz sent in to rape and murder village women and children, then leave evidence to "prove" it was done by the North Vietnamese. Since those horrific acts of evil, I've not been able to stomach the Yanks. Deluded old half-wits like this one don't have either the intelligence or sensitivity to understand these issues, but their mind-set is now endemic throughout society.

When I was a lad, football and cricket were sports that everyone played on Saturday arvo (though I played hockey meself). Today they sit at home worshipping their steroid- pumped drug-addled "sports heroes" on TV, scoffing junk food and sculling beer, working themselves into a quasi-sexual frenzy of frustration, then head out to night-clubs to let off some steam. And the do-gooders wring their hands and lament the decline of society whilst the media and sports promoters count their cash. Today's "sport" and celebrity culture are as toxic at home as are our military murderers in countries that have never threatened us.

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Reply #37 - Oct 30^th, 2013 at 9:49am

Tony Abbot said:

"Australia's longest war is ending,"

"Not with victory, not with defeat, but with, we hope, an Afghanistan that is better for our presence here."

Tony tell us how would this victory would look like?

I don't know, does some of you smart Aussies know that?

What I know as an independent observer is the following facts:

- In Gallipoli Aussies fought for British in Korea, Vietnam and Afghanistan for Americans in Darwin for Australia.

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Reply #38 - Oct 30^th, 2013 at 10:04am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 30^th, 2013 at 8:08am:

BigOl64 wrote on Oct 30^th, 2013 at 7:13am:

I haven't heard a peep out of you 'war haters'.

As opposed to 'war lovers'....

is that the antitheses of

"make love-not war"

the bigole version

"make war-not love"

you sick minded individual

Not really worth the nearly 50 minutes it took you to think up that reply and post it, now was it?

But it is up to your usual standards.

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Reply #39 - Oct 30^th, 2013 at 10:10am

GoneWest wrote on Oct 30^th, 2013 at 8:48am:

> you sick minded individual

Sad but true. There's nothing the least bit noble or honourable about modern warfare; it's merely disciplined hi-tech murder in the service of banksters and megalomaniacs. I'm strongly of the opinion that the study of the classics should be mandatory in high-school to emphasize the vast changes since the time when men met face-to-face on the field of battle, and equal challenged equal. It may have been brutal and bloody, but there was a real sense of honour and respect for one's foe.

For me, the break came with the napalming of women and children in peaceful IndoChinese villages during the Vietnam conflict. Even worse were the covert teams of big Yankee niggaz sent in to rape and murder village women and children, then leave evidence to "prove" it was done by the North Vietnamese. Since those horrific acts of evil, I've not been able to stomach the Yanks. Deluded old half-wits like this one don't have either the intelligence or sensitivity to understand these issues, but their mind-set is now endemic throughout society.

When I was a lad, football and cricket were sports that everyone played on Saturday arvo (though I played hockey meself). Today they sit at home worshipping their steroid- pumped drug-addled "sports heroes" on TV, scoffing junk food and sculling beer, working themselves into a quasi-sexual frenzy of frustration, then head out to night-clubs to let off some steam. And the do-gooders wring their hands and lament the decline of society whilst the media and sports promoters count their cash. Today's "sport" and celebrity culture are as toxic at home as are our military murderers in countries that have never threatened us.

I see you now understand what a troll is and have fully embraced the lowly internet persona with gusto. Ysou and pansi should get a long like long lost siblings

As a typical dumb sh1t civilian your knowledge is at best limited and at worst a series of vile opinions. You are fool, driven by your own inadequacies from a life of constant failure. As in, your life is total sh1t and you are just lashing out like a petulant child in a hopeless attempt to make yourself feel better.

As for "since the time when men met face-to-face on the field of battle, and equal challenged equal. It may have been brutal and bloody, but there was a real sense of honour and respect for one's foe", what the bugger would you know ya gutless coward, fvcken keyboard warrior wanna-be. Grin

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Reply #40 - Oct 30^th, 2013 at 10:18am

GoneWest wrote on Oct 30^th, 2013 at 6:32am:

> Didn't Gillard go over to Afghanistan last year and tell the boys the war was over?

Yes, but times have changed. If you're not aware of the fake "gold bars" that have popped up here and there, you won't realize the embarassment caused by Germany's request to repatriate its national gold holdings from Fort Knox. The Americans replied that yes, certainly, they could have their gold back - in five years time. The "gold bars" left in Fort Knox are only gold-plated tungsten, and it'll take few years for the honest American banksters to find some more. If you examine the assets of African nations that have had a recent upsurge in "cross-border terrorist insurgency", it's no coincidence that gold features high on the list. Other countries are also expressing consternation about the purity of their own gold stocks at the "impregnable" Fort.

And just to drive home the message, only two countries in the Middle East have their own independent central banks that are not part of the international federal reserve system. Go on, it's not hard to guess! Yep, spot on! Iran and Syria.

Why would they be "gold-plated Tungsten"? Why bother making them out of one of the more expensive (and difficult to plate) metals when you could use something cheaper, much closer in specific gravity and more easily plated, like Lead? Why even plate them, when you could just paint them gold and no one would be the wiser. It's not as if people are in there every day, lifting the bars and examining them.

Any way, most foreign gold reserves in the USA aren't even held in Fort Knox. That's the US Government Gold Repository. Most foreign gold reserves are held in New York. Cheesy

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Reply #41 - Oct 30^th, 2013 at 11:26am

GoneWest wrote on Oct 29^th, 2013 at 3:58pm:

> How's that for answering your questions?

By Australian standards (esp. those set by Oz parliaments) it's perfectly adequate. By any reasonable standards, it's just another foul-mouthed rant of the type you'd expect from today's Australians.

Foul-mouthed rants are Bighole's forte.

If you were expecting anything else, prepare to be disappointed.

And, he's certainly not a good representation of "today's Australians".

In answer to the question in your OP: we didn't formally declare war on Afghanistan. And yes, it was pretty much just "sucking up to the yanks".

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Reply #42 - Oct 30^th, 2013 at 11:30am

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 30^th, 2013 at 11:26am:

GoneWest wrote on Oct 29^th, 2013 at 3:58pm:

> How's that for answering your questions?

By Australian standards (esp. those set by Oz parliaments) it's perfectly adequate. By any reasonable standards, it's just another foul-mouthed rant of the type you'd expect from today's Australians.

Foul-mouthed rants are Bighole's forte.

If you were expecting anything else, prepare to be disappointed.

And, he's certainly not a good representation of "today's Australians".

In answer the the question in your OP: we didn't formally declare war on Afghanistan. And yes, it was pretty much just "sucking up to the yanks".

Boo fvcken hoo, pecker

He is just another one of you dead sh1t trolls and gets treated just like the rest of you dead sh1t trolls.

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Reply #43 - Oct 30^th, 2013 at 11:38am

BigOl64 wrote on Oct 30^th, 2013 at 11:30am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 30^th, 2013 at 11:26am:

GoneWest wrote on Oct 29^th, 2013 at 3:58pm:

> How's that for answering your questions?

By Australian standards (esp. those set by Oz parliaments) it's perfectly adequate. By any reasonable standards, it's just another foul-mouthed rant of the type you'd expect from today's Australians.

Foul-mouthed rants are Bighole's forte.

If you were expecting anything else, prepare to be disappointed.

And, he's certainly not a good representation of "today's Australians".

In answer the the question in your OP: we didn't formally declare war on Afghanistan. And yes, it was pretty much just "sucking up to the yanks".

Boo fvcken hoo, pecker

He is just another one of you dead sh1t trolls and gets treated just like the rest of you dead sh1t trolls.

Case in point.

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Reply #44 - Oct 30^th, 2013 at 11:49am

|dev|null wrote on Oct 30^th, 2013 at 10:18am:

GoneWest wrote on Oct 30^th, 2013 at 6:32am:

> Didn't Gillard go over to Afghanistan last year and tell the boys the war was over?

Yes, but times have changed. If you're not aware of the fake "gold bars" that have popped up here and there, you won't realize the embarassment caused by Germany's request to repatriate its national gold holdings from Fort Knox. The Americans replied that yes, certainly, they could have their gold back - in five years time. The "gold bars" left in Fort Knox are only gold-plated tungsten, and it'll take few years for the honest American banksters to find some more. If you examine the assets of African nations that have had a recent upsurge in "cross-border terrorist insurgency", it's no coincidence that gold features high on the list. Other countries are also expressing consternation about the purity of their own gold stocks at the "impregnable" Fort.

And just to drive home the message, only two countries in the Middle East have their own independent central banks that are not part of the international federal reserve system. Go on, it's not hard to guess! Yep, spot on! Iran and Syria.

Why would they be "gold-plated Tungsten"? Why bother making them out of one of the more expensive (and difficult to plate) metals when you could use something cheaper, much closer in specific gravity and more easily plated, like Lead? Why even plate them, when you could just paint them gold and no one would be the wiser. It's not as if people are in there every day, lifting the bars and examining them.

Any way, most foreign gold reserves in the USA aren't even held in Fort Knox. That's the US Government Gold Repository. Most foreign gold reserves are held in New York. Cheesy

Becasue the SG of lead isn't even close to that of gold.

gold 19320 kg/m³
lead 11340
tungsten 19600

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