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Reply #15 - Oct 31st, 2013 at 7:15am
 
Peter Freedman wrote on Oct 30th, 2013 at 7:17pm:
This is exactly what happens when an extreme politician starts meddling with the judiciary.

Newman is a very dangerous man.



rubbish pete... Judges live in ivory towers.. they think they are special.. Roll Eyes.. they forget who they are employed by US the tax payers employ them.. and we employ them to obey the LAW..

we do not write the laws of the lands

just the chosen ones do

we are told what to do and when we can do it..

some of us break those laws...and we expect the Judge to perseve to be handing out JUSTICE..

I do not call it justice when a real sentence is 25 years and the culprit gets 3 with time off for good behavior..

Judges are there to administer the law...

they are NOT THE LAW..... even though thats how they think..

we are untouchable..bugger that.
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Reply #16 - Oct 31st, 2013 at 7:23am
 
Peter Freedman wrote on Oct 30th, 2013 at 7:17pm:
This is exactly what happens when an extreme politician starts meddling with the judiciary.

Newman is a very dangerous man.


No, that is what happens when a Judge wets his pants...
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Reply #17 - Oct 31st, 2013 at 7:47am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 30th, 2013 at 6:48pm:
Give him the sack. He is a big noter who drags cases out at OUR expense.
Now he is endangering us.

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Today a Brisbane Supreme Court judge adjourned an alleged bikie's bail hearing because of Mr Newman's recent comments that judges should recognise that the community wanted "protection", and should act accordingly.

Justice George Fryberg questioned whether he should hear the DPP's application to revoke 25-year-old Jared Kevin Anthony Brown's bail.

The judge quoted that quoted Mr Newman as saying thathe wanted the Queensland judiciary to act to "protect the community".

Judge says 'it's essential justice be seen to be done', claims Newman's comments compromise that

Justice Fryberg said he was troubled by the comments, which he said could put the public's perception of justice at risk.

"Before I commence hearing this case, I need to know whether the report reflects what the Premier said about this case and whether the DPP reflects that view, or whether they have withdrawn it," he said.

"It is essential in our system that justice be seen to be done.

"If we hear remarks on the record that are not withdrawn, it would be very difficult for members of the public to avoid the conclusion that the court was bending to the will of the government ... justice would not be seen to be done.

"The difficulty I see is the application is being brought by the Government ... the Government's principal spokesman has publicly told the court what the outcome should be."

Adjourning the DPP's application to have the bail decision reviewed, Justice Fryberg asked the DPP to determine whether the media reports of Mr Newman's coments were accurate, whether the Premier had withdrawn what he said, and if not, whether the court ought to hear the matter or stay it indefinitely.

Newman refused to back down in parliament this afternoon

Mr Newman's government has recently pushed through tough new laws aimed at closing down bikie gangs and giving itself the power to rule on whether sex offenders should stay behind bars.

And the Premier refused to back down in state parliament this afternoon, saying he had never commented on specific cases.

"My comments are reflecting what the people of Queensland are saying and thinking," he said.

"My comments are backed by Queenslanders who want the judiciary to listen to them. That's what we're asking [them] to do."

Mr Newman said he was not the first senior politician to question court decisions, and said many Labor politicians had made "direct personal attacks on judges".

"Peter Beattie had a tougher go at the judges... Judy Spence had a bigger go at judges, Anna Bligh had a bigger go at judges, the Prime Minister of the Commonwealth of Australia had a bigger go at judges," he said.

'Courts could grind to halt' says Labor

Earlier Opposition Leader Annastacia Palaszczuk warned the state's legal system could be at risk if Mr Newman did not back down.

"I expect the Premier to stand up [in parliament] and withdraw his comments unreservedly, and apologise to the courts for these attacks," she said.

"Otherwise our courts will grind to a halt.

"Today is a wake-up call for the Premier."

The bail hearing will return to court tomorrow.


http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/19605699/newman-unrepentant-after-judge-adjourns-alle...


Government of the people, by the people, for the people. We should not cede the running of our lives to the legal club. Remember the high court judge who broke the law for 13 years yet he was appointed to the high court. Remember the other high court judge who has had his file sealed (thanks to Hawke and later on Rudd) so that we may not know its contents. Who would trust the legal club?
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Reply #18 - Oct 31st, 2013 at 7:47am
 
An independent judiciary is a cornerstone of any free society.

When a politician starts meddling in that area, you are on a slippery slope.

Newman is starting to look more like Joh every day. His law and order posturing is a bid for the red neck vote. Don't know why he bothers, he's got it already.

His government claims the Queensland economy is a basket case. If so, then that should be taking up his time rather than interfering with the courts.
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Reply #19 - Oct 31st, 2013 at 7:49am
 
Peter Freedman wrote on Oct 31st, 2013 at 7:47am:
An independent judiciary is a cornerstone of any free society.

When a politician starts meddling in that area, you are on a slippery slope.

Newman is starting to look more like Joh every day. His law and order posturing is a bid for the red neck vote. Don't know why he bothers, he's got it already.

His government claims the Queensland economy is a basket case. If so, then that should be taking up his time rather than interfering with the courts.


Newman was just expressing the sentiments of the vast majority of law-abiding QLDer's. That's hardly meddling, otherwise the judiciary would never get any cases heard for all the shock-jocks and opinion pieces in the media...
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Reply #20 - Oct 31st, 2013 at 8:00am
 
cods wrote on Oct 31st, 2013 at 7:15am:
Peter Freedman wrote on Oct 30th, 2013 at 7:17pm:
This is exactly what happens when an extreme politician starts meddling with the judiciary.

Newman is a very dangerous man.



rubbish pete... Judges live in ivory towers.. they think they are special.. Roll Eyes.. they forget who they are employed by US the tax payers employ them.. and we employ them to obey the LAW..

we do not write the laws of the lands

just the chosen ones do

we are told what to do and when we can do it..

some of us break those laws...and we expect the Judge to perseve to be handing out JUSTICE..

I do not call it justice when a real sentence is 25 years and the culprit gets 3 with time off for good behavior..

Judges are there to administer the law...

they are NOT THE LAW..... even though thats how they think..

we are untouchable..bugger that.


indeed, judges are on a huge salary and have egos the size of elephants.
this judge is not doing his work and in the past has slowed down cases in the past for his own financial and egotistical benefit.

any judge will gas on about 'integrity, values, sanctity of the law' ............ all the time thye are pocketing $5+K a week and their ego is fattenning.

Fire him.
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Reply #21 - Oct 31st, 2013 at 8:03am
 
Peter Freedman wrote on Oct 31st, 2013 at 7:47am:
An independent judiciary is a cornerstone of any free society.



Does that include alleged Justices Kirby, Shaw, Murphy, Einfeld, O'Shane, and Barwick? I thought the appointment of judges only followed the test of "We will not make men justices, constables, sheriffs, or bailiffs unless they are such as know the law of the realm, and are minded to observe it rightly."

Now you are banging on about independent judiciary. You're a bit late.
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Reply #22 - Oct 31st, 2013 at 8:07am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 31st, 2013 at 7:49am:
Peter Freedman wrote on Oct 31st, 2013 at 7:47am:
An independent judiciary is a cornerstone of any free society.

When a politician starts meddling in that area, you are on a slippery slope.

Newman is starting to look more like Joh every day. His law and order posturing is a bid for the red neck vote. Don't know why he bothers, he's got it already.

His government claims the Queensland economy is a basket case. If so, then that should be taking up his time rather than interfering with the courts.


Newman was just expressing the sentiments of the vast majority of law-abiding QLDer's. That's hardly meddling, otherwise the judiciary would never get any cases heard for all the shock-jocks and opinion pieces in the media...


Questioning court decisions and telling judges how to act IS meddling.

What proof can you provide that Newman "is expressing the views of the vast majority of law abiding QLDers"? Talk back radio?
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Reply #23 - Oct 31st, 2013 at 8:28am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 31st, 2013 at 7:49am:
Peter Freedman wrote on Oct 31st, 2013 at 7:47am:
An independent judiciary is a cornerstone of any free society.

When a politician starts meddling in that area, you are on a slippery slope.

Newman is starting to look more like Joh every day. His law and order posturing is a bid for the red neck vote. Don't know why he bothers, he's got it already.

His government claims the Queensland economy is a basket case. If so, then that should be taking up his time rather than interfering with the courts.


Newman was just expressing the sentiments of the vast majority of law-abiding QLDer's. That's hardly meddling, otherwise the judiciary would never get any cases heard for all the shock-jocks and opinion pieces in the media...


newman is expressing opinion and if the judge cannot cope with that then he should resign. We went thru that here in SA with Rann and the judiciary did their job splendidly.
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Reply #24 - Oct 31st, 2013 at 8:30am
 
Peter Freedman wrote on Oct 31st, 2013 at 8:07am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 31st, 2013 at 7:49am:
Peter Freedman wrote on Oct 31st, 2013 at 7:47am:
An independent judiciary is a cornerstone of any free society.

When a politician starts meddling in that area, you are on a slippery slope.

Newman is starting to look more like Joh every day. His law and order posturing is a bid for the red neck vote. Don't know why he bothers, he's got it already.

His government claims the Queensland economy is a basket case. If so, then that should be taking up his time rather than interfering with the courts.


Newman was just expressing the sentiments of the vast majority of law-abiding QLDer's. That's hardly meddling, otherwise the judiciary would never get any cases heard for all the shock-jocks and opinion pieces in the media...


Questioning court decisions and telling judges how to act IS meddling.

What proof can you provide that Newman "is expressing the views of the vast majority of law abiding QLDers"? Talk back radio?


we do that here!  media and journos do it all the time!  it is nothing new!  It isn't a question of whether or not I agree with him or think it is even a proper thing to do.  it is his RIGHT to express an opinion and the responsibility of judges to administer justice fairly with zero regard for ANYONES mere opinion.
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Reply #25 - Oct 31st, 2013 at 8:42am
 
Peter Freedman wrote on Oct 31st, 2013 at 8:07am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 31st, 2013 at 7:49am:
Peter Freedman wrote on Oct 31st, 2013 at 7:47am:
An independent judiciary is a cornerstone of any free society.

When a politician starts meddling in that area, you are on a slippery slope.

Newman is starting to look more like Joh every day. His law and order posturing is a bid for the red neck vote. Don't know why he bothers, he's got it already.

His government claims the Queensland economy is a basket case. If so, then that should be taking up his time rather than interfering with the courts.


Newman was just expressing the sentiments of the vast majority of law-abiding QLDer's. That's hardly meddling, otherwise the judiciary would never get any cases heard for all the shock-jocks and opinion pieces in the media...


Questioning court decisions and telling judges how to act IS meddling.

What proof can you provide that Newman "is expressing the views of the vast majority of law abiding QLDers"? Talk back radio?


And what proof can you provide that he is not?
The vast majority of law abiding Queenslanders do expect that our streets should be kept safe from criminals and to suggest otherwise is just silly.
The judge needs to put away his tiara.
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Reply #26 - Oct 31st, 2013 at 8:59am
 
chicken_lipsforme wrote on Oct 31st, 2013 at 8:42am:
Peter Freedman wrote on Oct 31st, 2013 at 8:07am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 31st, 2013 at 7:49am:
Peter Freedman wrote on Oct 31st, 2013 at 7:47am:
An independent judiciary is a cornerstone of any free society.

When a politician starts meddling in that area, you are on a slippery slope.

Newman is starting to look more like Joh every day. His law and order posturing is a bid for the red neck vote. Don't know why he bothers, he's got it already.

His government claims the Queensland economy is a basket case. If so, then that should be taking up his time rather than interfering with the courts.


Newman was just expressing the sentiments of the vast majority of law-abiding QLDer's. That's hardly meddling, otherwise the judiciary would never get any cases heard for all the shock-jocks and opinion pieces in the media...


Questioning court decisions and telling judges how to act IS meddling.

What proof can you provide that Newman "is expressing the views of the vast majority of law abiding QLDers"? Talk back radio?


And what proof can you provide that he is not?
The vast majority of law abiding Queenslanders do expect that our streets should be kept safe from criminals and to suggest otherwise is just silly.
The judge needs to put away his tiara.


if you cant handle criticism then you have no business being a judge.
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Reply #27 - Oct 31st, 2013 at 9:03am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Oct 31st, 2013 at 8:59am:
chicken_lipsforme wrote on Oct 31st, 2013 at 8:42am:
Peter Freedman wrote on Oct 31st, 2013 at 8:07am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 31st, 2013 at 7:49am:
Peter Freedman wrote on Oct 31st, 2013 at 7:47am:
An independent judiciary is a cornerstone of any free society.

When a politician starts meddling in that area, you are on a slippery slope.

Newman is starting to look more like Joh every day. His law and order posturing is a bid for the red neck vote. Don't know why he bothers, he's got it already.

His government claims the Queensland economy is a basket case. If so, then that should be taking up his time rather than interfering with the courts.


Newman was just expressing the sentiments of the vast majority of law-abiding QLDer's. That's hardly meddling, otherwise the judiciary would never get any cases heard for all the shock-jocks and opinion pieces in the media...


Questioning court decisions and telling judges how to act IS meddling.

What proof can you provide that Newman "is expressing the views of the vast majority of law abiding QLDers"? Talk back radio?


And what proof can you provide that he is not?
The vast majority of law abiding Queenslanders do expect that our streets should be kept safe from criminals and to suggest otherwise is just silly.
The judge needs to put away his tiara.


if you cant handle criticism then you have no business being a judge.


If you cannot accept the independence of the judiciary you have no business being a Premier.....Once the Government starts to criticise the judiciary the system is failing and the integrity of the legal system is compromised.....Only in Queensland would this kind of thing happen!!!

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Reply #28 - Oct 31st, 2013 at 9:07am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 31st, 2013 at 7:49am:
Newman was just expressing the sentiments of the vast majority of law-abiding QLDer's. That's hardly meddling, otherwise the judiciary would never get any cases heard for all the shock-jocks and opinion pieces in the media...


OOOOH!  So we have been reduced to Law by Emotion here in Oz!  I KNEW I'd missed something...

Well - we'll just let the common crowd out there decide for themselves when they want a hanging, shall we?  A lot easier and saves all the argument and the cost of a trial.
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Reply #29 - Oct 31st, 2013 at 9:38am
 

What proof can you provide that Newman "is expressing the views of the vast majority of law abiding QLDers"?

I think the result of the last election provides that proof...
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