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Germany builds minus six coal plants
Oct 31st, 2013 at 12:48pm
 
Germany builds minus six coal plants after nuclear phaseout

29 Apr 2013   by Craig Morris


In a recent paper about Germany’s energy transition, Craig Morris found one particular claim that he wanted to investigate: have the Germans built any coal plants to make up for lost nuclear power since 2011?

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Unit 9 of the coal power station in Mannheim was the last German coal power generation unit to receive a building permission in 2009 – two years before the nuclear phase-out was put into place. No new projects have been allowed since and six have been cancelled. (Photo by Engelberger, CC BY-SA 3.0)


In my previous blog post, I mentioned several things that distracted me in the article, but the sentence that really struck me was this one:
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Germany has at least ten new coal-fired power plants under construction, many of which were commissioned after the turn from nuclear to compensate for energy lost from reactors.

It is surprising to see how widespread the notion is that a coal plant could be built in a couple of years. I took a look at some statistics for the US and found that this new coal plant, which went online in 2012, received its first permit in 2007. Five years is probably a good average in democracies worldwide. (I also discovered that the Department of Energy discontinued its public database of new coal plants in 2007, so Americans have to collect the data themselves – but we’ll save that issue for a later post…)

Take a look at this chart (PDF in German) published by German environmental NGO Deutsche Umwelthilfe in November. It shows that two new coal plants recently went into operation, with eight others currently under construction – so the figure of 10 new coal plants is correct. But even if you don’t speak German, you can see under the “Status” column when these plants began. For instance, Datteln starts in 01/2007 (January 2007) and the latest date for the beginning of a plant’s status is 07/2009 for Neckerau Block 9.

The two plants that went online last fall received permits way back in 2005 (Grevenbroich) and 2006 (Boxberg). The eight others soon to be completed were all underway by 2009 at the latest. Go down further into the list of “abandoned” projects (the green area), and you’ll see that six of those 20 projects have been abandoned since the nuclear phaseout. The only positive changes for coal since March 2011 concern two plants currently “planned” (orange area), and here nothing is currently being built.

As a reaction to the nuclear phaseout, Germany has thus started building zero coal plants but stepped away from six. At current power prices, all conventional projects are on hold, and coal power may soon be unprofitable in Germany.

Coal plants take around five years to build, so don’t expect any new ones as a reaction to an event in March 2011 until 2016. And if the German government ever sees fit to support ambitious carbon trading, which it only recently rejected, we might get a switch from nuclear and coal to natural gas and renewables by 2016 instead – the intended outcome.
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Re: Germany builds minus six coal plants
Reply #1 - Oct 31st, 2013 at 1:46pm
 
Yes that's exactly what's going to happen with this anthropogenic global warming religion.

They want to govern the world through the environmental movement.

They will still allow coal fired power stations to be built and pollute.

JUST AS LONG AS WE PURCHASE CARBON CREDITS FROM AL GORE.

There not worried about lowering manmade CO2 emissions.

There just worried about how they are going to get us to pay them for using our own natural resources and make them rich from our own natural resources.

I say bugger them.......!!!!.....nazi....pigs.....!!!!!!

We don't have to hand them one red cent......!!!!!!!
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Ajax wrote on Oct 31st, 2013 at 1:46pm:
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They want to govern the world through the environmental movement.
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That's right Ajax, it's all a conspiracy. They're all in on it.

All a conspiracy. A conspiracy. Conspiracy. ...

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Reply #3 - Nov 1st, 2013 at 5:09pm
 
# wrote on Nov 1st, 2013 at 6:52am:
Ajax wrote on Oct 31st, 2013 at 1:46pm:
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They want to govern the world through the environmental movement.
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That's right Ajax, it's all a conspiracy. They're all in on it.

All a conspiracy. A conspiracy. Conspiracy. ...

Roll Eyes


Wake up dude your helping to make these nazi pigs very rich.

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Gore Pocketed ~$18 Million from Now-Defunct Chicago Climate Exchange

Although the Chicago Climate Exchange (CCX) collapsed and shut down this week, Al Gore's Generation Investment Management LLP pocketed approximately $17.8 million on it's 2.98% share of the exchange when it was sold to the publicly traded Intercontinental Exchange a mere 6 months ago.

According to news reports, the brainchild of the exchange, academic Richard Sandor, founded the exchange with a foundation gift of $1.1 million, and pocketed $98.5 million for his 16.5% share of the CCX.

This would place the value of Gore's firm's stake at almost $18 million. Note Gore is the founder, chairman, and largest shareholder in Generation Investment Management LLP.

Barack Obama was on the Joyce Foundation Board when it provided the funding to establish the CCX. Maurice Strong, founding head of the United Nations Environmental Program (UNEP), precursor to the IPCC, was a CCX board member.

http://hockeyschtick.blogspot.com.au/2010/11/gore-pocketed-18-million-from-now.h...
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Re: Germany builds minus six coal plants
Reply #4 - Nov 1st, 2013 at 5:40pm
 
Ajax wrote on Oct 31st, 2013 at 1:46pm:
Yes that's exactly what's going to happen with this anthropogenic global warming religion.

They want to govern the world through the environmental movement.

They will still allow coal fired power stations to be built and pollute.

JUST AS LONG AS WE PURCHASE CARBON CREDITS FROM AL GORE.

There not worried about lowering manmade CO2 emissions.

There just worried about how they are going to get us to pay them for using our own natural resources and make them rich from our own natural resources.

I say bugger them.......!!!!.....nazi....pigs.....!!!!!!

We don't have to hand them one red cent......!!!!!!!

CALCULUS IS ABOUT LIMITS: DID YOU PASS YEAR 10 BUDDY??
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*Sure....they're anti competitive as any subsidised job is.  It wouldn't be there without the tax payer.  Very damned difficult for a brainwashed collectivist to understand that I know....  (swaggy) *
 
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Re: Germany builds minus six coal plants
Reply #5 - Nov 1st, 2013 at 5:41pm
 
Ajax wrote on Nov 1st, 2013 at 5:09pm:
# wrote on Nov 1st, 2013 at 6:52am:
Ajax wrote on Oct 31st, 2013 at 1:46pm:
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They want to govern the world through the environmental movement.
...
That's right Ajax, it's all a conspiracy. They're all in on it.

All a conspiracy. A conspiracy. Conspiracy. ...

Roll Eyes


Wake up dude your helping to make these nazi pigs very rich.

Quote:

Gore Pocketed ~$18 Million from Now-Defunct Chicago Climate Exchange

Although the Chicago Climate Exchange (CCX) collapsed and shut down this week, Al Gore's Generation Investment Management LLP pocketed approximately $17.8 million on it's 2.98% share of the exchange when it was sold to the publicly traded Intercontinental Exchange a mere 6 months ago.

According to news reports, the brainchild of the exchange, academic Richard Sandor, founded the exchange with a foundation gift of $1.1 million, and pocketed $98.5 million for his 16.5% share of the CCX.

This would place the value of Gore's firm's stake at almost $18 million. Note Gore is the founder, chairman, and largest shareholder in Generation Investment Management LLP.

Barack Obama was on the Joyce Foundation Board when it provided the funding to establish the CCX. Maurice Strong, founding head of the United Nations Environmental Program (UNEP), precursor to the IPCC, was a CCX board member.

http://hockeyschtick.blogspot.com.au/2010/11/gore-pocketed-18-million-from-now.h...

Ajax didn't see Al Gore on David Letterman, lol, that was years ago he faced those charges Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss
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Re: Germany builds minus six coal plants
Reply #6 - Nov 2nd, 2013 at 1:02pm
 
Ajax wrote on Nov 1st, 2013 at 5:09pm:
# wrote on Nov 1st, 2013 at 6:52am:
Ajax wrote on Oct 31st, 2013 at 1:46pm:
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They want to govern the world through the environmental movement.
...
That's right Ajax, it's all a conspiracy. They're all in on it.

All a conspiracy. A conspiracy. Conspiracy. ...

Roll Eyes


Wake up dude your helping to make these nazi pigs very rich.
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Conspiracy <hyperventilate>.
Conspiracy <hyperventilate>.
Conspiracy <hyperventilate>.
Conspiracy <hyperventilate>.
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