FriYAY wrote on Nov 1
st, 2013 at 3:20pm:
Phemanderac wrote on Nov 1
st, 2013 at 2:59pm:
I guess this thread plummeting down the list quickly highlights how much animal cruelty does not really bother many people.
This stuff will continue as long as we (as a Nation) support and continue with Live Exports of Sheep and Cattle.
Oh FFS.
Get behind a dam sheep truck on a 40’C day headed to the local abattoirs. The putrid stench, the sheep packed in standing for hours on end in a moving vehicle, their legs shaking.
If you eat meat, then commenting on “live export” being cruel is hypocrisy personified.
Killing animals to eat is never going to be nice for the animal, locally or over seas.
Oh FFS, lol,
Read up on ethics please. Obviously if the end result is killing then yep that is a bad ending, but surely you understand that there are differences between a quick clean kill and a wide range of tortures prior to death.
Yes your point about transport of animals is excellent too by the way, I will go you one better though, do exactly what you suggest on a motor bike with either an open face helmet or the visor up on your full face one. You can right up close, and, chicken trucks are without doubt the worst of them.
We predominantly grow our own food too, not that you would have known that previously so I am in a slightly different position.
To try and shut down debate about this by simply dismissing it as "we don't do it so well either" or "if you eat meat blah blah," is in short being somewhat ignorant about the ethics behind the bigger picture.
It seems an issue that you do not really care about, and if that is the case that is fine. It is a curious thing though that you would attempt a diversion from a discussion simply because you don't care.
For my part I would greatly love to see animal cruelty stopped across the board, sadly it seems, the human species lacks the make up within itself to simply not be cruel though, I would like to see far more ethical practices implemented about the care of ALL animals and not just those we mass produce for food. Ethical treatment of food animals though would also be a fabulous change. Clearly though, the issue is both complex and many pronged, so, in effect, one can only work systematically through the issues.
Live Exporting of food stock animals has repeatedly been demonstrated as an extremely cruel practice for a wide range of reasons. Therefore, it seems simply logical as a good starting point to stop that heinous trade that, quite bluntly, profits from the exploitation of ongoing animal cruelty.
Once we get that one out of the road, I am sure we can then move on to finding some more ethical transporting and local butchering practices.
However, until then, BAN LIVE EXPORTS is the key issue that I am working towards.
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