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Re: Palmer, Newman clash over 'corruption'
Reply #15 - Nov 2^nd, 2013 at 10:54am

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2013 at 8:24am:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2013 at 8:17am:

Palmer could end up becoming a national embarrassment and the punchline to a joke. I expect him to do very badly in parliament. I also expect him to resign after he gets bored of not being able to get his own way by bullying.

At least he may end up making the 2 majors have a good look at themselves.

Surely the cooler heads in both must be asking the question of how they are so on the nose that Australians are happily electing these sort of nut jobs over their candidates.

I would doubt they are all that surprised. There is always an element in the electorate (eg pansi) who vote for any candidate that is not liberal or labor and for no other reason. And then there are the complete morons who think the Palmer-esque candidate is brilliant. They previously voted for One Nation of course. and unsurprisingly the majority live in the state of corruption aka QLD.

The disaffected voters always exist as do the loons. next election Palmer will lose much of his support as did One NAtion before them. It is the same reason the Greens are shedding support at a rapid rate of knows. As soon as minor parties start having a degree of power, they are exposed to the harsh light of criticism and analysis and by and large, fail miserably.

But in the meantime, watch Palmer agitate for laws and rulings that exist for no other reason than to promote himself and his business.

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Reply #16 - Nov 2^nd, 2013 at 11:50am

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2013 at 10:54am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2013 at 8:24am:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2013 at 8:17am:

Palmer could end up becoming a national embarrassment and the punchline to a joke. I expect him to do very badly in parliament. I also expect him to resign after he gets bored of not being able to get his own way by bullying.

At least he may end up making the 2 majors have a good look at themselves.

Surely the cooler heads in both must be asking the question of how they are so on the nose that Australians are happily electing these sort of nut jobs over their candidates.

I would doubt they are all that surprised. There is always an element in the electorate (eg pansi) who vote for any candidate that is not liberal or labor and for no other reason. And then there are the complete morons who think the Palmer-esque candidate is brilliant. They previously voted for One Nation of course. and unsurprisingly the majority live in the state of corruption aka QLD.

The disaffected voters always exist as do the loons. next election Palmer will lose much of his support as did One NAtion before them. It is the same reason the Greens are shedding support at a rapid rate of knows. As soon as minor parties start having a degree of power, they are exposed to the harsh light of criticism and analysis and by and large, fail miserably.

But in the meantime, watch Palmer agitate for laws and rulings that exist for no other reason than to promote himself and his business.

he has been head cook and bottle washer for a long time.. it will be so interesting to see how he manages when he has no choice but to suck it up..[purple with rage]

I wonder if they have had the benches reinforced for his PUP party?.. I think a refit in the canteen might be required as well..hes got be one of the biggest we had had in parliament for a while surely.

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Re: Palmer, Newman clash over 'corruption'
Reply #17 - Nov 2^nd, 2013 at 12:01pm

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2013 at 10:54am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2013 at 8:24am:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2013 at 8:17am:

Palmer could end up becoming a national embarrassment and the punchline to a joke. I expect him to do very badly in parliament. I also expect him to resign after he gets bored of not being able to get his own way by bullying.

At least he may end up making the 2 majors have a good look at themselves.

Surely the cooler heads in both must be asking the question of how they are so on the nose that Australians are happily electing these sort of nut jobs over their candidates.

I would doubt they are all that surprised. There is always an element in the electorate (eg pansi) who vote for any candidate that is not liberal or labor and for no other reason. And then there are the complete morons who think the Palmer-esque candidate is brilliant. They previously voted for One Nation of course. and unsurprisingly the majority live in the state of corruption aka QLD.

The disaffected voters always exist as do the loons. next election Palmer will lose much of his support as did One NAtion before them. It is the same reason the Greens are shedding support at a rapid rate of knows. As soon as minor parties start having a degree of power, they are exposed to the harsh light of criticism and analysis and by and large, fail miserably.

But in the meantime, watch Palmer agitate for laws and rulings that exist for no other reason than to promote himself and his business.

There are a few messages being circulated, at present and that is set to continue, for some time!

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Re: Palmer, Newman clash over 'corruption'
Reply #18 - Nov 2^nd, 2013 at 12:13pm

perceptions_now wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2013 at 12:01pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2013 at 10:54am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2013 at 8:24am:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2013 at 8:17am:

Palmer could end up becoming a national embarrassment and the punchline to a joke. I expect him to do very badly in parliament. I also expect him to resign after he gets bored of not being able to get his own way by bullying.

At least he may end up making the 2 majors have a good look at themselves.

Surely the cooler heads in both must be asking the question of how they are so on the nose that Australians are happily electing these sort of nut jobs over their candidates.

I would doubt they are all that surprised. There is always an element in the electorate (eg pansi) who vote for any candidate that is not liberal or labor and for no other reason. And then there are the complete morons who think the Palmer-esque candidate is brilliant. They previously voted for One Nation of course. and unsurprisingly the majority live in the state of corruption aka QLD.

The disaffected voters always exist as do the loons. next election Palmer will lose much of his support as did One NAtion before them. It is the same reason the Greens are shedding support at a rapid rate of knows. As soon as minor parties start having a degree of power, they are exposed to the harsh light of criticism and analysis and by and large, fail miserably.

But in the meantime, watch Palmer agitate for laws and rulings that exist for no other reason than to promote himself and his business.

[b]There are a few messages being circulated, at present and that is set to continue, for some time! [/b]

how about posting a few?

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Re: Palmer, Newman clash over 'corruption'
Reply #19 - Nov 2^nd, 2013 at 12:15pm

cods wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2013 at 6:56am:

hey perc you are going to be in a catch 22 are you not???.. you hate them all you claim...

yet I can see your little eyes sparkling at the thought of piggy saying anything and everything...ho hum..

it is going to be VERY interesting...

he does think he is above the law...weight wise he wouldnt have a prayer Roll Eyes

.. he does think he can pay his way out of everything... money speaks you know.

hes a bully and he owes the govt $6m in emissions tax...

he believes he has more rights than anyone else....

thats right..

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ITS ALL ABOUT MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

funny how he has only been claiming its all about Australia since he got dumped from the Nats.. Roll Eyes

That's not quite correct, Cods!

What I have said is, as a collective bunch, they (the Pollies) have been into self-interest & short term, they have not been into the best long term interests of the whole OZ Public.
That does not mean I hate, it does mean I am clearly saying they have not done their jobs properly & they have performed poorly over quite some time!

Yes, I agree & that is what I hear from Clive & all the other pollies.
But, THEY ALSO WANT IT NOW!
Sounds just like the unions -
It's all about what THEY WANT & THAT THEY WANT IT NOW!

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Re: Palmer, Newman clash over 'corruption'
Reply #20 - Nov 2^nd, 2013 at 12:23pm

perceptions_now wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2013 at 12:15pm:

cods wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2013 at 6:56am:

hey perc you are going to be in a catch 22 are you not???.. you hate them all you claim...

yet I can see your little eyes sparkling at the thought of piggy saying anything and everything...ho hum..

it is going to be VERY interesting...

he does think he is above the law...weight wise he wouldnt have a prayer Roll Eyes

.. he does think he can pay his way out of everything... money speaks you know.

hes a bully and he owes the govt $6m in emissions tax...

he believes he has more rights than anyone else....

thats right..

ANOTHER>>>

ITS ALL ABOUT MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

funny how he has only been claiming its all about Australia since he got dumped from the Nats.. Roll Eyes

That's not quite correct, Cods!

What I have said is, as a collective bunch, they (the Pollies) have been into self-interest & short term, they have not been into the best long term interests of the whole OZ Public.
That does not mean I hate, it does mean I am clearly saying they have not done their jobs properly & they have performed poorly over quite some time!

not the way its come across you have lambasted Abbott and he wasnt even sworn in...you havent so much as given him a chance.. so sorry if I dont believe that..

Yes, I agree & that is what I hear from Clive & all the other pollies.
But, THEY ALSO WANT IT NOW!
Sounds just like the unions -
It's all about what THEY WANT & THAT THEY WANT IT NOW!

again I havent heard any other pollies...

say they will sue this one and that one...

or if you dont do as I saY..

i WILL TELL THE WORLD WHAT I CLAIM I KNOW ABOUT YOU...

can you show where others have made statements like this????

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Re: Palmer, Newman clash over 'corruption'
Reply #21 - Nov 2^nd, 2013 at 3:11pm

cods wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2013 at 12:23pm:

perceptions_now wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2013 at 12:15pm:

cods wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2013 at 6:56am:

hey perc you are going to be in a catch 22 are you not???.. you hate them all you claim...

yet I can see your little eyes sparkling at the thought of piggy saying anything and everything...ho hum..

it is going to be VERY interesting...

he does think he is above the law...weight wise he wouldnt have a prayer Roll Eyes

.. he does think he can pay his way out of everything... money speaks you know.

hes a bully and he owes the govt $6m in emissions tax...

he believes he has more rights than anyone else....

thats right..

ANOTHER>>>

ITS ALL ABOUT MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

funny how he has only been claiming its all about Australia since he got dumped from the Nats.. Roll Eyes

That's not quite correct, Cods!

What I have said is, as a collective bunch, they (the Pollies) have been into self-interest & short term, they have not been into the best long term interests of the whole OZ Public.
That does not mean I hate, it does mean I am clearly saying they have not done their jobs properly & they have performed poorly over quite some time!

not the way its come across you have lambasted Abbott and he wasnt even sworn in...you havent so much as given him a chance.. so sorry if I dont believe that..

Yes, I agree & that is what I hear from Clive & all the other pollies.
But, THEY ALSO WANT IT NOW!
Sounds just like the unions -
It's all about what THEY WANT & THAT THEY WANT IT NOW!

again I havent heard any other pollies...

say they will sue this one and that one...

or if you dont do as I saY..

i WILL TELL THE WORLD WHAT I CLAIM I KNOW ABOUT YOU...

can you show where others have made statements like this????

Cods,
What you believe, is up to you, as it is for each of us!
That said, let me restate again, for the record, I believe that most Politicians are more into short term self interest, when they should be looked at what is in the Best interest of the entire Public.
That assertion of mine covers pretty much all Politicians!
I do not hate any of them, But I will certainly criticize any & all of them, which I do.
I have certainly criticized Abbott & the Liberal MORE than Labor, in the recent past, simply because the Liberal Policy/s are likely to make outcomes much worse than they would otherwise have been under Labor, at this point in time.

As for what you may or may not have heard Pollies say, I would suggest you try reading into what they say & don't say a little more & you may come away a little better informed.

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Re: Palmer, Newman clash over 'corruption'
Reply #22 - Nov 2^nd, 2013 at 3:44pm

perceptions_now wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2013 at 3:11pm:

cods wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2013 at 12:23pm:

perceptions_now wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2013 at 12:15pm:

cods wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2013 at 6:56am:

hey perc you are going to be in a catch 22 are you not???.. you hate them all you claim...

yet I can see your little eyes sparkling at the thought of piggy saying anything and everything...ho hum..

it is going to be VERY interesting...

he does think he is above the law...weight wise he wouldnt have a prayer Roll Eyes

.. he does think he can pay his way out of everything... money speaks you know.

hes a bully and he owes the govt $6m in emissions tax...

he believes he has more rights than anyone else....

thats right..

ANOTHER>>>

ITS ALL ABOUT MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

funny how he has only been claiming its all about Australia since he got dumped from the Nats.. Roll Eyes

That's not quite correct, Cods!

What I have said is, as a collective bunch, they (the Pollies) have been into self-interest & short term, they have not been into the best long term interests of the whole OZ Public.
That does not mean I hate, it does mean I am clearly saying they have not done their jobs properly & they have performed poorly over quite some time!

not the way its come across you have lambasted Abbott and he wasnt even sworn in...you havent so much as given him a chance.. so sorry if I dont believe that..

Yes, I agree & that is what I hear from Clive & all the other pollies.
But, THEY ALSO WANT IT NOW!
Sounds just like the unions -perceptions_now wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2013 at 12:01pm:
There are a few messages being circulated, at present and that is set to continue, for some time!

It's all about what THEY WANT & THAT THEY WANT IT NOW!

again I havent heard any other pollies...

say they will sue this one and that one...

or if you dont do as I saY..

i WILL TELL THE WORLD WHAT I CLAIM I KNOW ABOUT YOU...

can you show where others have made statements like this????

Cods,
What you believe, is up to you, as it is for each of us!
That said, let me restate again, for the record, I believe that most Politicians are more into short term self interest, when they should be looked at what is in the Best interest of the entire Public.
That assertion of mine covers pretty much all Politicians!
I do not hate any of them, But I will certainly criticize any & all of them, which I do.
I have certainly criticized Abbott & the Liberal MORE than Labor, in the recent past, simply because the Liberal Policy/s are likely to make outcomes much worse than they would otherwise have been under Labor, at this point in time.

OF COURSE!

As for what you may or may not have heard Pollies say, I would suggest you try reading into what they say & don't say a little more & you may come away a little better informed.

i PAY AS MUCH ATTENTION AS ANYONE ELSE..

its results that make the difference..with me

when someone says..

THERE WILL BE NO CARBON TAX UNDER A GOVT I LEAD..

thats what I WATCH..

I dont read anything into it.. except what they SAY..

I still have not heard any other pollie claim they will sue someone like palmer has done??....

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Reply #24 - Nov 2^nd, 2013 at 4:14pm

cods wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2013 at 3:44pm:

perceptions_now wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2013 at 3:11pm:

cods wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2013 at 12:23pm:

perceptions_now wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2013 at 12:15pm:

cods wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2013 at 6:56am:

hey perc you are going to be in a catch 22 are you not???.. you hate them all you claim...

yet I can see your little eyes sparkling at the thought of piggy saying anything and everything...ho hum..

it is going to be VERY interesting...

he does think he is above the law...weight wise he wouldnt have a prayer Roll Eyes

.. he does think he can pay his way out of everything... money speaks you know.

hes a bully and he owes the govt $6m in emissions tax...

he believes he has more rights than anyone else....

thats right..

ANOTHER>>>

ITS ALL ABOUT MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

funny how he has only been claiming its all about Australia since he got dumped from the Nats.. Roll Eyes

That's not quite correct, Cods!

What I have said is, as a collective bunch, they (the Pollies) have been into self-interest & short term, they have not been into the best long term interests of the whole OZ Public.
That does not mean I hate, it does mean I am clearly saying they have not done their jobs properly & they have performed poorly over quite some time!

not the way its come across you have lambasted Abbott and he wasnt even sworn in...you havent so much as given him a chance.. so sorry if I dont believe that..

Yes, I agree & that is what I hear from Clive & all the other pollies.
But, THEY ALSO WANT IT NOW!
Sounds just like the unions -perceptions_now wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2013 at 12:01pm:
There are a few messages being circulated, at present and that is set to continue, for some time!

It's all about what THEY WANT & THAT THEY WANT IT NOW!

again I havent heard any other pollies...

say they will sue this one and that one...

or if you dont do as I saY..

i WILL TELL THE WORLD WHAT I CLAIM I KNOW ABOUT YOU...

can you show where others have made statements like this????

Cods,
What you believe, is up to you, as it is for each of us!
That said, let me restate again, for the record, I believe that most Politicians are more into short term self interest, when they should be looked at what is in the Best interest of the entire Public.
That assertion of mine covers pretty much all Politicians!
I do not hate any of them, But I will certainly criticize any & all of them, which I do.
I have certainly criticized Abbott & the Liberal MORE than Labor, in the recent past, simply because the Liberal Policy/s are likely to make outcomes much worse than they would otherwise have been under Labor, at this point in time.

OF COURSE!

As for what you may or may not have heard Pollies say, I would suggest you try reading into what they say & don't say a little more & you may come away a little better informed.

i PAY AS MUCH ATTENTION AS ANYONE ELSE..

its results that make the difference..with me

when someone says..

THERE WILL BE NO CARBON TAX UNDER A GOVT I LEAD..

thats what I WATCH..

I dont read anything into it.. except what they SAY..

I still have not heard any other pollie claim they will sue someone like palmer has done??....

Ah, well perhaps you may need to revisit that!

People are different, they have different interpretations of very similar information and those interpretations will generally stem from their earlier development years, although some refinements will continue until later in life.

Whilst Clive may have his particular ways of making his points, which may often be based in or around the use of Money, others will send their messages via more subtle means, perhaps by planting seeds of why Palmer is doing this or that.

And, Clive with his money can employ his money well (?), by dragging things into the legal arena, because it "could" highlight some issues that some will not want highlighted and IF it gets him & "others" what they want (in the long run, Then it will be worth every penny spent & more!

Then, we have the Federal Government, who would not want to be seen to be going against a Coalition state government, But the Federal Libs are also in great need of the support of the Palmer party, to help in getting rid of the Carbon Tax, which is something that the Federal Libs will need to placate "some" big business Liberal supporters.
So the federal Libs are on the horns of a dilemma and most of their messages may be on the QT!

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Reply #25 - Nov 2^nd, 2013 at 4:25pm

adelcrow wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2013 at 3:57pm:

The day Clive stands up in parliament and unloads all the years of dirt on the Liberal Party will be funny as crap and you can bet that every media organisation will be all over it like flies on sh!t.
Grin

Clive needs to have his stomach stapled so he stops eating sh*t and his mouth stapled so he stops talking sh*t.

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Reply #26 - Nov 2^nd, 2013 at 4:29pm

salad in wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2013 at 8:08am:

Clive may live to regret tossing about insults. He has yet to declare his pecuniary interests and I wouldn't mind betting that a 'discovery' team has been commissioned by the Libs to track down Clive's business interests. It will be entertaining to watch the sh!t fight.

By the way, has it been confirmed yet that Murdoch's ex-wife was a Chinese spy? That's what Clive was asserting.

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Aspiring Prime Minister Clive Palmer threw out a bunch of accusations on the Today Show this morning, in a heated interview with Karl Stefanovic.

Palmer’s accusations grew more ludicrous by the second, as a bewildered Karl struggled to make sense of what the mining magnate business owner was actually trying to say. Palmer then set his sights on the television host, repeatedly telling Karl to ‘lift his game.’

The peak of the rant? When Palmer accused Rupert Murdoch’s ex-wife Wendi Deng of being a ‘Chinese spy’ – because obviously. “She’s being spying on Rupert for years…read the truth about her!” Clive exclaimed. Yikes.

http://www.mamamia.com.au/rogue/clive-palmer-fears-for-australia-subsequently-lo...

A "discovery team". So that's what the Libs call diggers of dirt these days.

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Reply #27 - Nov 2^nd, 2013 at 4:36pm

Peter Freedman wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2013 at 4:29pm:

salad in wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2013 at 8:08am:

Clive may live to regret tossing about insults. He has yet to declare his pecuniary interests and I wouldn't mind betting that a 'discovery' team has been commissioned by the Libs to track down Clive's business interests. It will be entertaining to watch the sh!t fight.

By the way, has it been confirmed yet that Murdoch's ex-wife was a Chinese spy? That's what Clive was asserting.

Quote:

Aspiring Prime Minister Clive Palmer threw out a bunch of accusations on the Today Show this morning, in a heated interview with Karl Stefanovic.

Palmer’s accusations grew more ludicrous by the second, as a bewildered Karl struggled to make sense of what the mining magnate business owner was actually trying to say. Palmer then set his sights on the television host, repeatedly telling Karl to ‘lift his game.’

The peak of the rant? When Palmer accused Rupert Murdoch’s ex-wife Wendi Deng of being a ‘Chinese spy’ – because obviously. “She’s being spying on Rupert for years…read the truth about her!” Clive exclaimed. Yikes.

http://www.mamamia.com.au/rogue/clive-palmer-fears-for-australia-subsequently-lo...

A "discovery team". So that's what the Libs call diggers of dirt these days.

Beware any man or woman who crosses the Liberal Party..

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Reply #28 - Nov 2^nd, 2013 at 7:13pm