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Reply #45 - Nov 8^th, 2013 at 7:22pm

namnugenot wrote on Nov 8^th, 2013 at 2:26pm:

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namnugenot wrote on Nov 8^th, 2013 at 11:20am:

... flawed guesstimations that cherry pick a data set and project it into infinity.

Do you have an example of that (other than from the denialists, of course)?

... ...for the Church of AGW, world climate began in 1950... ....

Yet another assertion that you can't substantiate.

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Reply #46 - Nov 8^th, 2013 at 7:24pm

namnugenot wrote on Nov 8^th, 2013 at 2:29pm:

Rider wrote on Nov 8^th, 2013 at 2:09pm:

# wrote on Nov 8^th, 2013 at 1:05pm:

namnugenot wrote on Nov 8^th, 2013 at 11:20am:

... flawed guesstimations that cherry pick a data set and project it into infinity.

Do you have an example of that (other than from the denialists, of course)?

ummmm, the projections of 98% of climate models for instance...doh...

Not one of which predicted the "pause"...

Rider couldn't substantiate his assertion. Can you substantiate yours?

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Reply #48 - Nov 8^th, 2013 at 7:33pm

namnugenot wrote on Nov 8^th, 2013 at 2:26pm:

# wrote on Nov 8^th, 2013 at 1:05pm:

namnugenot wrote on Nov 8^th, 2013 at 11:20am:

... flawed guesstimations that cherry pick a data set and project it into infinity.

Do you have an example of that (other than from the denialists, of course)?

Absolutely...for the Church of AGW, world climate began in 1950...not even an eyeblink in geological time.

They just don't seem to understand how insignificant 100 or 200 years is when it comes to climate.

Naive, narrow-minded, ignorant fools Roll Eyes

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Reply #49 - Nov 8^th, 2013 at 8:04pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 8^th, 2013 at 7:33pm:

namnugenot wrote on Nov 8^th, 2013 at 2:26pm:

# wrote on Nov 8^th, 2013 at 1:05pm:

namnugenot wrote on Nov 8^th, 2013 at 11:20am:

... flawed guesstimations that cherry pick a data set and project it into infinity.

Do you have an example of that (other than from the denialists, of course)?

Absolutely...for the Church of AGW, world climate began in 1950...not even an eyeblink in geological time.

They just don't seem to understand how insignificant 100 or 200 years is when it comes to climate.

Naive, narrow-minded, ignorant fools Roll Eyes

Naive - It's a bit like saying "Dying is natural. People die all the time. " regardless of the circumstances.

It's also like ignoring the obvious - the fact that the last time CO2 levels were this high, the Arctic was ice free.

- but no, you continue to deconstruct. Proxies are totally invalid because they are not thermometers. The fact that they agree closely with instrumental values and that they are based on absolute physics, is irrelevant for you.

Why? - just because you said so, and because denailists (I didn't say you were one) say so, and because the Lord (Monckton) is always right.

Monckton's coat of arms is a gay version of the House of Lords coat of arms. (left) He wanted to cure aids by putting all gays on an island. Perhaps he wanted to visit it.

These are the cranks that you're giving the benefit of the doubt to.

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Re: Arctic summer temperatures warmest for 120,000 yrs
Reply #50 - Nov 8^th, 2013 at 8:10pm

muso wrote on Nov 8^th, 2013 at 8:04pm:

Monckton's coat of arms is a gay version of the House of Lords coat of arms. (left) He wanted to cure aids by putting all gays on an island. Perhaps he wanted to visit it.

These are the cranks that you're giving the benefit of the doubt to.

I have never quoted or mentioned Monckton ... ever!

Naive, ignorant, narrow minded, and now ... misleading.

Just stick to the (reputable) science.

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Reply #51 - Nov 8^th, 2013 at 8:27pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 8^th, 2013 at 8:10pm:

muso wrote on Nov 8^th, 2013 at 8:04pm:

Monckton's coat of arms is a gay version of the House of Lords coat of arms. (left) He wanted to cure aids by putting all gays on an island. Perhaps he wanted to visit it.

These are the cranks that you're giving the benefit of the doubt to.

I have never quoted or mentioned Monckton ... ever!

Naive, ignorant, narrow minded, and now ... misleading.

Just stick to the (reputable) science.

Thou dost protest too much, methinks.

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Reply #52 - Nov 8^th, 2013 at 8:33pm

muso wrote on Nov 8^th, 2013 at 8:27pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 8^th, 2013 at 8:10pm:

muso wrote on Nov 8^th, 2013 at 8:04pm:

Monckton's coat of arms is a gay version of the House of Lords coat of arms. (left) He wanted to cure aids by putting all gays on an island. Perhaps he wanted to visit it.

These are the cranks that you're giving the benefit of the doubt to.

I have never quoted or mentioned Monckton ... ever!

Naive, ignorant, narrow minded, and now ... misleading.

Just stick to the (reputable) science.

Thou dost protest too much, methinks.

Prove me wrong then.

Find a post where I quote or mention Monckton (apart from the last two, of course).

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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: Arctic summer temperatures warmest for 120,000 yrs Reply #53 - Nov 8^th, 2013 at 8:55pm Proof is for mathematics. I can't prove anything that is happening inside your head. I think I'm getting you worked up there. So any time you mention "The church of AGW" or "Al Gore", I'll quote the "Dark Lord" My strawmen are better than yours.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 139596 Gender:	Re: Arctic summer temperatures warmest for 120,000 yrs Reply #54 - Nov 8^th, 2013 at 8:57pm muso wrote on Nov 8^th, 2013 at 8:55pm: Proof is for mathematics. I can't prove anything that is happening inside your head. I think I'm getting you worked up there. No. I'm chilled to the max. Let me know when you find a post with me mentioning Monckton, OK?
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Re: Arctic summer temperatures warmest for 120,000 yrs
Reply #55 - Nov 8^th, 2013 at 9:01pm

# wrote on Nov 8^th, 2013 at 7:24pm:

namnugenot wrote on Nov 8^th, 2013 at 2:29pm:

Rider wrote on Nov 8^th, 2013 at 2:09pm:

# wrote on Nov 8^th, 2013 at 1:05pm:

namnugenot wrote on Nov 8^th, 2013 at 11:20am:

... flawed guesstimations that cherry pick a data set and project it into infinity.

Do you have an example of that (other than from the denialists, of course)?

ummmm, the projections of 98% of climate models for instance...doh...

Not one of which predicted the "pause"...

Rider couldn't substantiate his assertion. Can you substantiate yours?

No you old fool. I said No I wouldn't. Not No I couldn't. Now take your Alzheimer's pills and stop dribbling.

While you are at it you can stick your substantiate up your assertiate. Too busy and not interested in your twisted moronic trivial circular arguments of bullsh1t.

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Re: Arctic summer temperatures warmest for 120,000 yrs
Reply #56 - Nov 8^th, 2013 at 9:03pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 8^th, 2013 at 8:57pm:

muso wrote on Nov 8^th, 2013 at 8:55pm:

Proof is for mathematics. I can't prove anything that is happening inside your head.

I think I'm getting you worked up there.

No. I'm chilled to the max.

Let me know when you find a post with me mentioning Monckton, OK?

Boo!

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Re: Arctic summer temperatures warmest for 120,000 yrs
Reply #57 - Nov 8^th, 2013 at 9:16pm

muso wrote on Nov 8^th, 2013 at 9:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 8^th, 2013 at 8:57pm:

muso wrote on Nov 8^th, 2013 at 8:55pm:

Proof is for mathematics. I can't prove anything that is happening inside your head.

I think I'm getting you worked up there.

No. I'm chilled to the max.

Let me know when you find a post with me mentioning Monckton, OK?

Boo!

http://nexusmag.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/MONCKTON.jpg

He is a lord and has a mathematics degree.

NOBODY IN THE UNIVERSE CAN DENOUNCE ANYTHING THIS LORD UTTERS IN PUBLIC.

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Re: Arctic summer temperatures warmest for 120,000 yrs
Reply #58 - Nov 8^th, 2013 at 9:47pm

# wrote on Nov 8^th, 2013 at 7:21pm:

namnugenot wrote on Nov 8^th, 2013 at 2:23pm:

# wrote on Nov 8^th, 2013 at 1:03pm:

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So, namnugenot, what are your qualifications?

Actually ...

None, then.

I don't know you but I'm pretty confident I'm more qualified than you. That in any case is irrelevant seeing as what your putting up is insubstantial, devoid of actual scientific content (unless fortune telling counts as scientific methodology now) and basically a bucket of horsesh!t.

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Re: Arctic summer temperatures warmest for 120,000 yrs
Reply #59 - Nov 9^th, 2013 at 10:49am

Rider wrote on Nov 8^th, 2013 at 9:01pm:

# wrote on Nov 8^th, 2013 at 7:24pm:

namnugenot wrote on Nov 8^th, 2013 at 2:29pm:

Rider wrote on Nov 8^th, 2013 at 2:09pm:

# wrote on Nov 8^th, 2013 at 1:05pm:

namnugenot wrote on Nov 8^th, 2013 at 11:20am: