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Nov 5th, 2013 at 6:36pm
 
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Chief Magistrate Tim Carmody has issued an edict that will effectively ensure he makes all the decisions in cases of disputed bail for accused bikies.

The Newman Government and the judiciary have been at loggerheads over several bikie cases with tough new laws banning outlaw gang members from being granted bail.

However, several bikies have been granted bail by magistrates because the prosecution was not able to successfully prove they were gang members.

The extraordinary decree by Judge Carmody will enrage members of the Queensland magistracy who will see the decision from the recently-appointed chief magistrate as a slight on their professionalism.

The practise direction, dated November 4, states it applies to any contested bail application throughout the state which has not yet been set down for hearing.

"Unless the Chief Magistrate otherwise orders in the interests of justice, all bail applications to which this practise direction applies, will be listed for hearing in Court 20 in the Brisbane Magistrates Court, not before 2.30pm,'' Judge Carmody said. "No more than 2 applications may be listed on one day.''

The directive states the primary objective was to ensure all applications proceed without delay as well as reduce costs for the Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions and ensure "security for all".The decision means contested bail application cases from outside Brisbane will have to be heard via video link.

Attorney-General Jarrod Bleijie last night declined to comment on Judge Carmody's directive.

However, it comes after the Government was left seething over Sunshine Coast Magistrate Bernadette Callaghan's decision to granted bail to an alleged bikie because his Rebels gang membership could not be proved.

The alleged bikie, Lorne James Campbell, is facing extortion charges.

The Bar Association this morning condemned Judge Carmody's directive, insisting the chief magistrate reconsider the decision.

"The Bar Association of Queensland does not support a practice by which applications brought by particular classes of citizens are brought before a particular judicial officer,'' president Roger Traves QC said.

"If that be the practical effect of the Practice Direction, then the Bar Association respectfully urges the Chief Magistrate to reconsider it.

"The principles of fairness and equality before the law are best served by the court as a whole dealing with these applications, not a designated judicial officer."



http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/all-bikie-bail-decisions-usually-m...
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Reply #1 - Nov 5th, 2013 at 6:42pm
 
And your point is, Sprint?
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Reply #2 - Nov 5th, 2013 at 6:46pm
 
Because QLDs last dictator worked out so well for everyone, amiright?
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Reply #3 - Nov 5th, 2013 at 7:00pm
 

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QUEENSLAND'S 88 magistrates have been stripped of their ability to hear contested bail applications for alleged members of outlaw bikie gangs in a move which is set to inflame the judiciary. 
 
Chief Magistrate Tim Carmody has issued an edict that will effectively ensure he makes all the decisions in cases of disputed bail for accused bikies.


Now the prosecution does not even have to prove someone is a bikie to deny them bail.....I can see problems when justice is something that is determined by who people are not what they do!!!

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Reply #4 - Nov 5th, 2013 at 7:02pm
 
Its Carmodys version ot saying that the previous Judge lacked the balls for the task but he doesn't.
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Reply #5 - Nov 5th, 2013 at 7:08pm
 
Unfortunately the status quo for the judiciary is to make sure that their number one customers get back out on the street as soon as possible to provide yet even more work for themselves,  there is absolutely no end of evidence to show that this is the case, a revolving door justice system equals riches for lawyers and judges, long sentences will just cut crime and that can't be allowed to happen.
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Reply #6 - Nov 5th, 2013 at 7:13pm
 

Queensland - beautiful one day... Fascist the next.
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Reply #7 - Nov 5th, 2013 at 7:16pm
 
Innocent bystander wrote on Nov 5th, 2013 at 7:08pm:
Unfortunately the status quo for the judiciary is to make sure that their number one customers get back out on the street as soon as possible to provide yet even more work for themselves,  there is absolutely no end of evidence to show that this is the case, a revolving door justice system equals riches for lawyers and judges, long sentences will just cut crime and that can't be allowed to happen. 


I don't in general have a problem with our justice system and think it typically does a good job.  this isn't one of those examples.  The weak judge was unable to act above the politics - which is his job.
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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
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Reply #8 - Nov 5th, 2013 at 7:22pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Nov 5th, 2013 at 7:16pm:
Innocent bystander wrote on Nov 5th, 2013 at 7:08pm:
Unfortunately the status quo for the judiciary is to make sure that their number one customers get back out on the street as soon as possible to provide yet even more work for themselves,  there is absolutely no end of evidence to show that this is the case, a revolving door justice system equals riches for lawyers and judges, long sentences will just cut crime and that can't be allowed to happen. 


I don't in general have a problem with our justice system and think it typically does a good job.  this isn't one of those examples.  The weak judge was unable to act above the politics - which is his job.



Which one was weak?

This one, doing the job correctly and legally...


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Sunshine Coast Magistrate Bernadette Callaghan's decision to granted bail to an alleged bikie because his Rebels gang membership could not be proved.



or the Goebbels replica, Carmody?
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Reply #9 - Nov 5th, 2013 at 7:46pm
 
Trouble in the legal club bodes ill for Australia. I can imagine the scene in The Brisbane Club; the susurrus swirling around small groups of legal types; the spillage of Chivas Regal caused by consternation; the tossing about in small rooms of those sumptuous and comfortable Connolly-clad accent chairs. It’s funny when you consider that a person appearing in front of a magistrate or judge is asked to explain his or her actions. When the same standards are applied to magistrates and judges it’s just not on.
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Reply #10 - Nov 5th, 2013 at 7:52pm
 
Kat is right on this one.  These laws are being put in place because it could not be proven that the person under suspicion was a bikie and was released as any other criminal awaiting charges would be on bail.  So all the judges have been again labelled with the "soft on crime" stamp and are having their rights stripped away, just as every ordinary QLDer is now too.

Presumption of innocence is one of the cornerstones of a fair legal system. 

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Chivas Regal


Chivas Regal is swill, not becoming of such lofty archetypes
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Reply #11 - Nov 5th, 2013 at 7:56pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Nov 5th, 2013 at 7:02pm:
Its Carmodys version ot saying that the previous Judge lacked the balls for the task but he doesn't.


Which part of this (from  the Bar Association of Queensland) did you not understand:

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The Bar Association this morning condemned Judge Carmody's directive, insisting the chief magistrate reconsider the decision.

"The Bar Association of Queensland does not support a practice by which applications brought by particular classes of citizens are brought before a particular judicial officer,'' president Roger Traves QC said.

"If that be the practical effect of the Practice Direction, then the Bar Association respectfully urges the Chief Magistrate to reconsider it.

"The principles of fairness and equality before the law are best served by the court as a whole dealing with these applications, not a designated judicial officer."


It seems to me that this is another example of how the Rule of Law/Separation of Powers has been corrupted in Queensland.

Does anyone reckon that Tim Carmody (a pissant LNP suck-hole Magistrate/Copper/Family Court wanker)....came out with that extraordinary directive without political direction?  bugger me dead!  He was given the job by Canbull.

Link. 

Here we go again.  Off to the real Judges who have not been 'bought.'

Thank Christ for 'Ivory Towers!'
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Reply #12 - Nov 5th, 2013 at 8:21pm
 
Aussie wrote on Nov 5th, 2013 at 7:56pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Nov 5th, 2013 at 7:02pm:
Its Carmodys version ot saying that the previous Judge lacked the balls for the task but he doesn't.


Which part of this (from  the Bar Association of Queensland) did you not understand:

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The Bar Association this morning condemned Judge Carmody's directive, insisting the chief magistrate reconsider the decision.

"The Bar Association of Queensland does not support a practice by which applications brought by particular classes of citizens are brought before a particular judicial officer,'' president Roger Traves QC said.

"If that be the practical effect of the Practice Direction, then the Bar Association respectfully urges the Chief Magistrate to reconsider it.

"The principles of fairness and equality before the law are best served by the court as a whole dealing with these applications, not a designated judicial officer."


It seems to me that this is another example of how the Rule of Law/Separation of Powers has been corrupted in Queensland.

Does anyone reckon that Tim Carmody (a pissant LNP suck-hole Magistrate/Copper/Family Court wanker)....came out with that extraordinary directive without political direction?  bugger me dead!  He was given the job by Canbull.

Link. 

Here we go again.  Off to the real Judges who have not been 'bought.'

Thank Christ for 'Ivory Towers!'



Sounds more like 'Fawlty Towers' but not nearly as funny.
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Reply #13 - Nov 5th, 2013 at 8:42pm
 
The march to facism continues Angry

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How long before GreenPeace is classified as a Criminal organisation to facilitate gas/oil drilling in the Great Barrier Reef.
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Aussie wrote on Nov 5th, 2013 at 7:56pm:
It seems to me that this is another example of how the Rule of Law/Separation of Powers has been corrupted in Queensland.



Let's not go there.

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Queensland and the Westminster system

The Constitution of Queensland Act 2001, unlike the Australian Constitution, currently does not expressly provide that Ministers of the Crown have to be elected parliamentarians. By Westminster conventions, however, that is the case, thus allowing for "responsible Government". In another comparison with the Australian Constitution, the Queensland Constitution does not prescribe a rigid "separation of powers" and the Queensland Parliament could legislate to alter the judicial role of the State's courts.

On the other hand, because Queensland is part of a federation, the Australian High Court has overruled the State's authority in certain areas, through reference to the Federal Government's constitutional powers, e.g., Eddie Mabo and Others vs the State of Queensland, which granted land title rights to the original inhabitants of Murray Island.

http://www.parliament.qld.gov.au/explore/about-us/parliament-overview/separation...

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