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Dawkins: "Bin Laden Has Won!"
Nov 5^th, 2013 at 8:18pm

'Bin Laden has won': Atheist and academic Richard Dawkins in airport security Twitter row over jar of honey

RICHARD Dawkins isn't a big fan of airport security.

The world-famous scientist and atheist activist was furious when his "little jar of honey" was confiscated and thrown away by "rule-bound dundridges" at an airport.

"Bin Laden has won, in airports of the world every day," Mr Dawkins said on Twitter. "I had a little jar of honey, now thrown away by rule-bound dundridges. STUPID waste."

Incidentally, Mr Dawkins says the word "dundridge" means a "petty, bossy, bureaucratic little rule-hound". You won't find it in any official dictionaries.

On the upside, the incident undoubtedly supports Mr Dawkins' belief that there is no god, because no loving deity could possibly allow one's little jar of honey to be taken away so callously.

Mr Dawkins embarked on a withering Twitter rant after the incident, earning scorn and sympathy in roughly equal measure. Here are some of the spectacular highlights.

http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/scientist-and-atheist-activist-richard-dawkins-loses-it-after-airport-security-confiscates-his-honey/story-e6frfq80-1226753217875

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True Colours Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2837 Gender:	Re: Dawkins: "Bin Laden Has Won!" Reply #1 - Nov 5^th, 2013 at 8:18pm
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True Colours Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2837 Gender:	Re: Dawkins: "Bin Laden Has Won!" Reply #2 - Nov 5^th, 2013 at 8:19pm
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Dawkins: "Bin Laden Has Won!" Reply #3 - Nov 5^th, 2013 at 9:14pm Dawkins is right.
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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: Dawkins: "Bin Laden Has Won!" Reply #4 - Nov 7^th, 2013 at 5:24am Richard Dawkins is a funny guy. I follow him on Twitter. What's the connection between Atheism and Science anyway?
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Reply #5 - Nov 7^th, 2013 at 7:36am

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Atheism is the conceit to believe that a some men have infinite knowledge. And they have used this infinite knowledge to perform the God like task of proving a negative.

Any particular brand of mainstream theism is the conceit to believe that their brand (and only their brand) is supported by a God of infinite knowledge.

Any world view can be regarded as conceited by somebody not of that worldview.

Do Atheists believe that some men have infinite knowledge?
I've never met any who claim they do.

Do they use this infinite knowledge to perform the God like task of proving a negative?

I don't think anybody has claimed that they can prove a negative.

I can posit grandiose statements too, you know.

Islam is the conceited view that their strawmen are inspired by Allah and therefore have more validity than other strawmen.

Maybe you could make it a new Hadith:

الإسلام هو رأي مغرور أن من القش الرجال هي مستوحاة من الله، وبالتالي يكون أكثر صحة من غيرها من القش الرجال.

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David New Member Offline Slacker Posts: 14 Melbourne, VIC Gender:	Re: Dawkins: "Bin Laden Has Won!" Reply #6 - Nov 7^th, 2013 at 11:08pm Dawkins is right. Airport security is ridiculous nowadays. Like trying to swat a fly with an a-bomb.
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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: Dawkins: "Bin Laden Has Won!" Reply #7 - Nov 8^th, 2013 at 8:32am Airport security measures are so well known that any terrorist group could smuggle explosives by dividing it into small portions for each terrorist and combining them on the flight. We've already had 3d printed guns that work. They wouldn't show up either. All they do is to make life difficult for ordinary passengers.
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Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 21726 A cat with a view	Re: Dawkins: "Bin Laden Has Won!" Reply #8 - Nov 8^th, 2013 at 10:41pm Bin Laden Has Won, ....his place in hell, if it exists. [.....i don't know what hell is. God just makes it clear that the rejects will get what they have worked for [have 'demonstrated' that they want]. so i guess that they will be happy then.]
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Reply #9 - Nov 8^th, 2013 at 10:48pm

muso wrote on Nov 8^th, 2013 at 8:32am:

Airport security measures are so well known that any terrorist group could smuggle explosives by dividing it into small portions for each terrorist and combining them on the flight. We've already had 3d printed guns that work. They wouldn't show up either.

All they do is to make life difficult for ordinary passengers.

Yep, us ordinary people just suffer, and suffer.

Is that fair ? Angry

Once they put you in that box in the ground, muso, all of your problems will be over. Wink

It is something to look forward to, for all atheists!

Peace at last! Grin

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #10 - Nov 8^th, 2013 at 10:50pm

Yadda wrote on Nov 8^th, 2013 at 10:48pm:

muso wrote on Nov 8^th, 2013 at 8:32am:

Airport security measures are so well known that any terrorist group could smuggle explosives by dividing it into small portions for each terrorist and combining them on the flight. We've already had 3d printed guns that work. They wouldn't show up either.

All they do is to make life difficult for ordinary passengers.

Yep, us ordinary people just suffer, and suffer.

Is that fair ? Angry

Once they put you in that box in the ground, muso, all of your problems will be over. Wink

It is something to look forward to, for all atheists!

Peace at last! Grin

Sorry muso, i forgot.

Your not an atheist.

More of an agnostic.

Right ?

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: Dawkins: "Bin Laden Has Won!" Reply #11 - Nov 10^th, 2013 at 6:03pm I'm a religious naturalist. http://www.religiousnaturalism.org/faq.html
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Reply #12 - Nov 10^th, 2013 at 9:48pm

muso wrote on Nov 10^th, 2013 at 6:03pm:

I'm a religious naturalist.
http://www.religiousnaturalism.org/faq.html

Talk about

purple

prose!!!

Can you give me a very short 'elevator pitch' of what Religious Naturalism is all about?

A religious naturalist adopts as her/his core narrative our understandings of nature as made manifest by scientific inquiry, and develops integrated religious responses … interpretive, spiritual, and moral/ethical … to that narrative.

'develops integrated religious responses', does it?

I am very sorry Mr Musician, but I am smirking.

Apologies for the extra apostrophy.

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Reply #13 - Nov 11^th, 2013 at 11:01pm

Other people's "World Views" are eminently smirkable. Generally I try to understand what I'm smirking at though.

RN is a second cousin to Deism, but not all Religious Naturalists are Deists. Not all Religious Naturalists are theistic. Do you need me to remind you what Deism is?

If you smirk at RN, you're smirking at people like Adam Smith, Abraham Lincoln, Dmitri Mendeleev, John Muir, George Washington, Victor Hugo and Thomas Paine to name but a few.

Smirk away.

To me, God is one aspect of nature/ the Universe. God is life, love. The natural world has enough miracles of its own without supernatural miracles. Do we need the term God? Maybe it's useful sometimes, but we can get by without it most of the time.

I don't mock traditional theism. I see parallels in ancient wisdom.

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miketrees Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6490 Gender:	Re: Dawkins: "Bin Laden Has Won!" Reply #14 - Nov 11^th, 2013 at 11:11pm Dawkins may be right about BinLiner winning. However as a farmer who had his livelihood ruined by lack of quarantine controls ,,I think Dawkins is an arsehole.
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