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Re: If all the ice melted
Reply #15 - Nov 13^th, 2013 at 8:34pm

# wrote on Nov 13^th, 2013 at 8:01pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 13^th, 2013 at 12:38am:

And yet another vested interest post from #

What vested interest?

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perceptions_now Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11694 Perth WA Gender:	Re: If all the ice melted Reply #16 - Nov 13^th, 2013 at 10:22pm If all the ice melted? Well, that means no more, "Scotch on the Rocks"!
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miketrees Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6490 Gender:	Re: If all the ice melted Reply #17 - Nov 13^th, 2013 at 10:29pm I live 300 metres above sea level, bring it on.
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Re: If all the ice melted
Reply #18 - Nov 13^th, 2013 at 10:47pm

I think that the world would opt to nuke the tropical latitudes of the ocean (either side of the equator) long before they would even get anywhere near 100ft rise in sea levels. The evaporation levels would cause a massive level of storms and rainfall that would fall on areas (including the Sahara and Australian desert) that would then lead to a soaking up of excess water. The sea levels would recede to an acceptable level, and then the scientists of the world could come up with strategies to prevent the rising of sea levels again.

In the meantime, scientists have had a hard time trying to explain why ocean levels have fallen atleast 7 cm in the last few years. Is it because of all that rain we have been getting?

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Re: If all the ice melted
Reply #19 - Nov 13^th, 2013 at 10:58pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 13^th, 2013 at 10:47pm:

In the meantime, scientists have had a hard time trying to explain why ocean levels have fallen atleast 7 cm in the last few years. Is it because of all that rain we have been getting?

You're way out of date. The level has recovered, and then some. It was discussed here a few months ago.

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Re: If all the ice melted
Reply #20 - Nov 13^th, 2013 at 11:58pm

muso wrote on Nov 13^th, 2013 at 10:58pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 13^th, 2013 at 10:47pm:

In the meantime, scientists have had a hard time trying to explain why ocean levels have fallen atleast 7 cm in the last few years. Is it because of all that rain we have been getting?

You're way out of date. The level has recovered, and then some. It was discussed here a few months ago.

Well, eventually the water was going to make its way to the sea. But I doubt that it got back to pre-1990s levels, and then some. Geez, we got waterlogged earlier this year, and there hasn't been any word about the further falling of sea levels. So I wonder what your story is regarding flooding relieving sea levels.

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Re: If all the ice melted
Reply #21 - Nov 14^th, 2013 at 12:03am

# wrote on Nov 13^th, 2013 at 8:01pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 13^th, 2013 at 12:38am:

And yet another vested interest post from #

What vested interest?

Joe Romm founded a company called the 'Center for Energy and Climate Solutions' which got paid by business and US state governments to advise on saving energy and cutting pollution and greenhouse gas emmissions, and he currently works for The Center for American Progress, which is an advocacy organisation. So as long as people still believe in AGW, he keeps getting paid. THAT is a vested interest, his financial future depends on the idea of AGW.

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gizmo_2655 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16010 South West NSW Gender:	Re: If all the ice melted Reply #22 - Nov 14^th, 2013 at 12:54am perceptions_now wrote on Nov 13^th, 2013 at 10:22pm: If all the ice melted? Well, that means no more, "Scotch on the Rocks"! And harbourside properties are a little farther inland.
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Re: If all the ice melted
Reply #23 - Nov 14^th, 2013 at 7:02am

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 13^th, 2013 at 11:58pm:

muso wrote on Nov 13^th, 2013 at 10:58pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 13^th, 2013 at 10:47pm:

In the meantime, scientists have had a hard time trying to explain why ocean levels have fallen atleast 7 cm in the last few years. Is it because of all that rain we have been getting?

You're way out of date. The level has recovered, and then some. It was discussed here a few months ago.

Well, eventually the water was going to make its way to the sea. But I doubt that it got back to pre-1990s levels, and then some. Geez, we got waterlogged earlier this year, and there hasn't been any word about the further falling of sea levels. So I wonder what your story is regarding flooding relieving sea levels.

It was a lot more localised earlier this year, and mainly on the coast. I can see you're a bit out of touch with the data. (highlighted)

We discussed this quite some time ago on here.

You can see the dip and recovery on this graph:

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Doctor Jolly Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3808	Re: If all the ice melted Reply #24 - Nov 14^th, 2013 at 8:13am Nice graph muso. Denialists will interpret that as "downward" trend over the last year, therefore disproving all the accumlated science on climate change.
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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: If all the ice melted Reply #25 - Nov 14^th, 2013 at 8:20am Quote: If all the ice melted Antartica would be a temperate climate. Lot's of fossil fuels and minerals down there to exploit too.
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Re: If all the ice melted
Reply #26 - Nov 14^th, 2013 at 7:06pm

So that is from the satellites. The satellite figures are calibrated using tide gauges.

Tide gauges themselves need to be zeroed because some land masses rise, others subside. Hillarys in WA has subsided by about 6mm/ year. But BOM don't worry about that, they're only interested in sea level rises from global warming. So no adjustment of the gauges.

If you Google "hillarys subsidence sea level rise" you will see what I mean.

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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: If all the ice melted Reply #27 - Nov 14^th, 2013 at 7:09pm lee wrote on Nov 14^th, 2013 at 7:06pm: So that is from the satellites. The satellite figures are calibrated using tide gauges. It's a bit more complicated than that.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18020 Gender:	Re: If all the ice melted Reply #28 - Nov 14^th, 2013 at 7:11pm Yep, that's just the start point. If the start point is useless so is the "data". edit: the satellites need a base figure they are not inherently omniscient.
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Re: If all the ice melted
Reply #29 - Nov 14^th, 2013 at 8:09pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 14^th, 2013 at 12:03am:

# wrote on Nov 13^th, 2013 at 8:01pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 13^th, 2013 at 12:38am:

And yet another vested interest post from #

What vested interest?

Joe Romm founded a company called the 'Center for Energy and Climate Solutions' which got paid by business and US state governments to advise on saving energy and cutting pollution and greenhouse gas emmissions, and he currently works for The Center for American Progress, which is an advocacy organisation. So as long as people still believe in AGW, he keeps getting paid. THAT is a vested interest, his financial future depends on the idea of AGW.

Wow! It's a conspiracy, isn't it? Have you met Ajax?

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