The Daily Mail again? You are an avid fan FD aren't you?



Awarded the Orwellian Prize for misrepresentative journalism in 2012.

http://www.thestar.com/news/insight/2012/02/03/newsmangled_daily_mail_wins_orwel...



The BS tabloid was also criticised by the European court of human rights a few weeks go for misleading reports:

http://www.theguardian.com/law/2013/oct/14/european-court-human-rights-attacks-u...

Protesters outside Daily Mail offices condemn 'campaign of hatred'

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/oct/06/protesters-daily-mail-offices-campaign

With the link that Herbert put up, it shows a picture of a guy on the left who was beheaded.It shows him with a beard.

But the video that adamant put up shows a man with no beard.

Debunking the ‘Suicide for 72 Virgins’ Myth

One of the biggest Israeli propaganda myths is the invention of 72 virgins as a Muslim reward for suicide. This has been repeated to the western world so often that most people accept it as fact. The media wants us to believe that there cannot be anything wrong with Israelis – who must be seen as eternal victims – to cause anyone to commit suicide as a means of striking back at them. Heavens no!

The motivation for suicide bombings in Israel has nothing to do with Jewish treatment of Palestinians. Instead it has to do with the evilness of the Palestinians and their religious beliefs. This is the “bill of goods” they sell the western mind while at the same time faking most, if not all, the “Islamic suicide bombings” to blame on Muslims.

It is a sick and despicable mind that feels that it has a right to attack, steal, murder and cause harm to others, but if the others dare fight back they are wrong and therefore terrorists. This one sentence describes Israeli thinking and their policies. They believe they are superior and entitled and they have a right to do anything to other people and those people better not retaliate. As a result, the Israelis have done more by way of propaganda to take the legitimate fight of those who are against their wrongs and demonize them. We now have this ongoing enormous propaganda campaign to make Palestinians and anyone belonging to the same religion as Palestinians, to be seen as mindless terrorists and suicide bombers with no cause other than to do evil. And, of course, vicariously receiving 72 virgins as a reward in paradise for committing suicide to kill a few Israelis.

The Qur’an and valid authentic Hadiths are very clear about what happens to anyone who commits suicide. According to Hadiths:

Committing Suicide is a Major Sin:

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There are many more Hadiths condemning suicide but I would also like to reference the Qur’an. Amongst the many verses against suicide here is one that makes it very clear that the taking of one’s life is strongly prohibited and that there is no reward for anyone who does that.

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So where did the reward of 72 virgins in paradise for suicide come from? Are there any Islamic teachings we can point to endorsing that?...

...Searching what Muslims refer to as Gharib Hadiths (weak or strange Hadiths) we do find something about 72 wives but not virgins. The Hadith we find is the following:

Sunan al-Tirmidhi Hadith 2562 says:

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The smallest reward for the people of Paradise is an abode where there are 80,000 servants and 72 wives, over which stands a dome decorated with pearls, aquamarine, and ruby, as wide as the distance from Al-Jabiyyah [a Damascus suburb] to Sana’a [Yemen]

This is as a weak Hadith that has no Sanad — line or sequence of narration...this particular Hadith has technical weaknesses in its chain of transmitters and is therefore not considered impeccable. As a result, Muslims are not required to believe in it. Even if the Hadith was true, there is nothing about it that says that if someone commits suicide they would get 72 virgins in paradise...

...what we have today is the knee jerk, unconscious association of the religion of Islam with suicide bombings. Even to the point where claims of getting 72 virgins are an Islamic prize offered for suicide. This is a cruel and ugly lie about Islam that has been so widely perpetuated that it is accepted as fact...

http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2007/03/04/debunking-the-suicide-for-72-virgins-myth/

Wives not virgins?
So Muslim wives are not supposed to be virgins? 

Adamant wrote on Nov 15^th, 2013 at 8:37pm:

Does Islam consider suicide missions in the context of war to be the same thing as 'normal' suicide?

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 16^th, 2013 at 7:09am:


A lot of Westerners would support a death penalty for sodomites.

The holy book of the Christians and Jews commands it:

"If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death."
- Leviticus 20:13

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 16^th, 2013 at 7:09am:


So how does that differ to Western men?



Domestic violence becoming 'greatest social epidemic of our time'

And here is a Western Jewish man taking his wife out for dinner:



Well over a million Australian women have experienced domestic violence which includes not just beatings but:

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The fact is that wife-beating was perfectly legal in every Western country until fairly recently.

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It is precious of you to go on about beating people when it is allowed in the West.

Beating children is legal in many Western country. Hypocritical?

Their Bible commands it:

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The Bible also permits rape, which is probably why Westerners are so soft on it and reward rapists with a short all expenses paid holiday with luxury for and TVs and computer games.

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Yes the West does not do much to protect women from rapists does it? Women are oppressed in the West by this tolerance of rape.



Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 16^th, 2013 at 7:09am:


Rubbish. Islam does not prohibit a leader being democratically elected.


Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 16^th, 2013 at 7:09am:

Garbage. Women are generally considered in Islam to be equal to men.

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 16^th, 2013 at 7:09am:


No that is a Judeo-Christian concept.

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Islam teaches that women have rights that were only recently accepted in the Western such as the right to inherit, the right to own her own property, the right to choose her own husband, the right to divorce, the right to have access to children in the event of divorce, and the right to access courts.


Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 16^th, 2013 at 7:09am:


Arranged marriages are not illegal in any country that I am aware of. I am not sure what the problem is with an arranged marriage. If you think about it the parents are doing a service to their children by saving them the bother of looking for a spouse. Perhaps you are confusing arranged marriage wit forced marriage. Forced marriages are not allowed in Islam.


Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 16^th, 2013 at 7:09am:

Not allowed in Islam.

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 16^th, 2013 at 7:09am:


Support for bombing civilians is actually a Western trait.

A Gallup poll in the US found that Muslim-Americans (21%) were far less likely than their fellow Jewish (52%) and Christian (58%) countrymen to think it is sometimes justifiable to target and kill civilians. 64% of Mormons and 43% in people with no religion/atheists/agnostics supported sometimes killing civilians.






Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 16^th, 2013 at 7:09am:

So how does that fit in with Islam's zero tolerance of rape and severe punishments?