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Sir lastnail

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Re: Proof that wind farms do kill birds
Reply #15 - Nov 24^th, 2013 at 10:26am

Swagman wrote on Nov 24^th, 2013 at 10:04am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 24^th, 2013 at 9:50am:

Swagman wrote on Nov 24^th, 2013 at 9:47am:

don't drive a car then..

then give us electric cars instead of smashing them up. Sad

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Get them your self. There's lots of you environmentally concerned climate alarmist lefties. Risk your hard earned cash and start manufacturing electric cars....

Us lefties have risked lots of our tax money but Holden and Ford keep making fossil fool junkheaps. How come ??

In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”.

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Re: Proof that wind farms do kill birds
Reply #16 - Nov 24^th, 2013 at 10:37am

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 24^th, 2013 at 10:26am:

Swagman wrote on Nov 24^th, 2013 at 10:04am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 24^th, 2013 at 9:50am:

Swagman wrote on Nov 24^th, 2013 at 9:47am:

don't drive a car then..

then give us electric cars instead of smashing them up. Sad

http://www.evnut.com/images/ev1/ev1_grave/ev1_crush1.jpg

http://www.evnut.com/ev1_crushed.htm

Get them your self. There's lots of you environmentally concerned climate alarmist lefties. Risk your hard earned cash and start manufacturing electric cars....

Us lefties have risked lots of our tax money but Holden and Ford keep making fossil fool junkheaps. How come ??

Lefty governments.

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 24^th, 2013 at 10:26am:

Us lefties have risked lots of our tax money

Risk your own cash though. It's not up to the tax payer. Invest it in electric car manufacturing. If they are so efficient and economical they will capture the market if not you will go broke.... Tongue

...and the sky will fall in.... Grin

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Re: Proof that wind farms do kill birds
Reply #17 - Nov 24^th, 2013 at 12:22pm

Backseat_Pollie wrote on Nov 24^th, 2013 at 5:20am:

Bam wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2013 at 10:21pm:

We put safety mesh over fans to prevent injury. Why can't we do the same for a wind turbine?
Undecided

Birds don't need to come into contact with the fan blades to be killed or injured. Just being in close proximity can literally tear them apart.

If we need to keep the birds further away, just make the safety mesh bigger. Roll Eyes

You are not entitled to your opinion. You are only entitled to hold opinions that you can defend through sound, reasoned argument.

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Re: Proof that wind farms do kill birds
Reply #18 - Nov 24^th, 2013 at 3:13pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 24^th, 2013 at 10:15am:

FIRSTLY, a turning turbine does NOT create WIND

It is WIND - that makes a turbine turn

SECONDLY, a turning turbine does NOT create SUCTION

THEREFORE, a bird CANNOT be "sucked in" to a wind turbine

From time to time, a bird may misjudge the distance and speed of a turbine blade - resulting in a collision

MORE frequently, a bird will misjudge the speed and distance - of a moving vehicle, on a roadway

Canada ranks top bird killers –
wind turbines not even close to top

1 November 2013

Billion dollar businesses and billion dollar interests have a lot of money they can use to attack their up-and-coming competitors. Even if those competitors are driven by clear thinking and clean energy, money directed in an effective way can make them look bad. Promoting misinformation lacks integrity, but it’s very common within large industries and economic sectors.

People are busy. They do not have the time to research each myth out there.

Thus, we sometimes get fooled
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The List of Top Bird Killers (via CBC):

1. Domestic and feral cats: 200 million
2. Power lines, collisions and electrocutions: 25 million
3. Collisions with houses or buildings: 25 million
4. Vehicle collisions: 14 million
5. Game bird hunting: 5 million
6. Agricultural pesticides 2.7 million
7. Agricultural mowing: 2.2 million young birds, equivalent to one million adult birds
8. Commercial forestry: 1.4 million nests, equivalent to 900,000 adult birds
9. Communications towers: 220,000

Wind power doesn’t even make the list above.
Wind turbines have been increasingly improved in a way as to minimize bird deaths.

We need wind power, and it’s nice to know that it’s not the big bird killer it’s made out to be.

For sure, there is room for improvement, but there almost always is, and that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t use the best, cleanest, safest options we have.

http://reneweconomy.com.au/2013/canada-ranks-top-bird-killers-wind-turbines-even...

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Sir lastnail

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Re: Proof that wind farms do kill birds
Reply #19 - Nov 24^th, 2013 at 4:16pm

Swagman wrote on Nov 24^th, 2013 at 10:37am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 24^th, 2013 at 10:26am:

Swagman wrote on Nov 24^th, 2013 at 10:04am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 24^th, 2013 at 9:50am:

Swagman wrote on Nov 24^th, 2013 at 9:47am:

don't drive a car then..

then give us electric cars instead of smashing them up. Sad

http://www.evnut.com/images/ev1/ev1_grave/ev1_crush1.jpg

http://www.evnut.com/ev1_crushed.htm

Get them your self. There's lots of you environmentally concerned climate alarmist lefties. Risk your hard earned cash and start manufacturing electric cars....

Us lefties have risked lots of our tax money but Holden and Ford keep making fossil fool junkheaps. How come ??

Lefty governments.

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 24^th, 2013 at 10:26am:

Us lefties have risked lots of our tax money

...and the sky will fall in.... Grin

f.ckoff will you.

risk your own money he says. After all of the tens of billions that has been poured into making the same old gas guzzling fossil fool polluting crap from foreign companies that are going to close up anyway.

what a f.cken cheek you have to say that Sad

In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”.

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Re: Proof that wind farms do kill birds
Reply #20 - Nov 25^th, 2013 at 5:59am

buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 24^th, 2013 at 10:15am:

Backseat_Pollie wrote on Nov 24^th, 2013 at 5:20am:

Bam wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2013 at 10:21pm:

We put safety mesh over fans to prevent injury. Why can't we do the same for a wind turbine?
Undecided

Birds don't need to come into contact with the fan blades to be killed or injured. Just being in close proximity can literally tear them apart.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/timbo2530/birdAndturbines.png

If this weren't SO FUNNY, it'd be ...

http://lokidoberdog.weebly.com/uploads/1/4/7/6/14765648/662722198.jpg

... oh, BLOODY HELL - it's STILL funny !

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FIRSTLY, a turning turbine does NOT create WIND

[b]- WRONG

It is WIND - that makes a turbine turn

- TRUE

SECONDLY, a turning turbine does NOT create SUCTION

- NEVER MENTIONED SUCTION

THEREFORE, a bird CANNOT be "sucked in" to a wind turbine

From time to time, a bird may misjudge the distance and speed of a turbine blade - resulting in a collision

- EASY TO DO WHEN THE TIP IS TRAVELLING AT NEARLY 300KM PER HOUR

MORE frequently, a bird will misjudge the speed and distance - of a moving vehicle, on a roadway[/b]

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buzzanddidj

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Re: Proof that wind farms do kill birds
Reply #21 - Nov 25^th, 2013 at 8:34am

Backseat_Pollie wrote on Nov 24^th, 2013 at 5:20am:

Bam wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2013 at 10:21pm:

We put safety mesh over fans to prevent injury. Why can't we do the same for a wind turbine?
Undecided

Birds don't need to come into contact with the fan blades to be killed or injured. Just being in close proximity can literally
tear them apart
.

... and it's not just BIRDS

Won't SOMEONE think of the
OTHER native fauna !

Many sheep owners have been reported hearing loud "popping" sounds during the night - whenever these MONSTERS are switched on - finding little trace of their animals in the morning

Cows are being literally "blown away" ...

... only to be located, weeks later and kilometres away, as hideous mutations

And WHY aren't the Greens letting us know the REAL power source that runs their giant fans ?

Coal and nuclear

FACT

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Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.'

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