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Re: Labor ahead 52/48 tpp
Reply #135 - Nov 25^th, 2013 at 4:43pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 4:28pm:

Kat wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 3:35pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 3:30pm:

skippy. wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 1:51pm:

Funny armchair didn't run off to the mods when he was saying Gillard was guilty of illegal conduct which was unproven.
Running to the mods about other posters saying bad bad words about tony wony the phony pony they must have pissed them self laughing as hard as we all did. As for unsubstantiated claims, you best ask Andrei how his assertions Bob Carr is gay is going. Grin

At least we know the sooky boy now. Grin

Big difference between Gillard and some dodgy financial transactions and Abbott and the unproven allegations saying he punched a wall near a woman that did not stand up in court and which no person is willing to sign a stat dec to back up.

No difference at all, they were BOTH unproven.

Your hypocrisy is showing...

Big difference. For Gillard, there are legal documents and a money trail. For Abbott, nothing but accusations with zero proof to back them up and court action that was thrown out.

Sorry, but no.

Unproven is unproven.

You don't get to decide guilt along Party lines.

Something you con-servatives really do need to learn.

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Re: Labor ahead 52/48 tpp
Reply #136 - Nov 25^th, 2013 at 5:04pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 3:39pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 3:27pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 7:58am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 6:06am:

Stratos wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 6:03am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 5:55am:

I don't mind that he was accused. I do mind the fact that he was not convicted, yet you continue to call him a woman basher despite this not being what the court decided. Continue with the lie and you will be reported each time.

Oh cool you can report people for lying? Does that mean I can get people who call asylum seekers illegals banned?

No, the government calls them illegal immigrants. Check if you don't believe me.

I checked.

You lied.

Reported.

Have a nice day.

You did not check very well. Care to offer an apology to me now?

Immigration Minister Scott Morrison has instructed departmental and detention centre staff to publicly refer to asylum seekers as ‘‘illegal’’ arrivals and as ‘‘detainees’’, rather than as clients.

The directive has been criticised as a ‘‘profound’’ shift by a leading asylum seeker agency, which says the new terminology is designed to dehumanise people.

In an email to detention centre staff, obtained by Fairfax Media, a department official writes: ‘‘The department has received correspondence from the minister clarifying his expectations about the department’s use of terminology. Accordingly we as [sic] that our service providers also adhere to the below instructions.’’

These include calling all people who arrive in Australia by boat ‘‘illegal maritime arrivals’’, a marked change from the more moderate language used under the previous government.

When it came to office in 2007, Labor dropped the Howard government’s description of asylum seekers who arrived by boat as ‘‘illegal maritime arrivals’’, calling them ‘‘irregular maritime arrivals’’. It said this was done in recognition of the fact it is not illegal under Australian domestic law or international law to claim asylum. The new directive reverses this.

The email to detention centre and Serco staff also instructs them to describe asylum seekers being held in detention centres in Australia as ‘‘detainees’’ rather than as ‘‘clients’’, as they had been called under Labor.

People being held on Nauru and Papua New Guinea’s Manus Island are to be called ‘‘transferees’’, not ‘‘clients’’.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/minister-wants-boat-people...

LOL You fool. You just destroyed your own "argument".

Nowhere in that article does the government refer to asylum seekers as "illegal immigrants".

LOL Grin

I repeat.

I checked.

You lied.

You are still a liar.

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Illegal immigrants/illegal arrivals = same thing... Roll Eyes

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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: Labor ahead 52/48 tpp Reply #137 - Nov 25^th, 2013 at 5:07pm Mr Salad, if you want to bring this up again, thats fine, but i see you have already been served by Mr Peccary. I hope you stop using false and misleading terms in the future. nice one Greg
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Re: Labor ahead 52/48 tpp
Reply #138 - Nov 25^th, 2013 at 5:19pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 4:28pm:

Kat wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 3:35pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 3:30pm:

skippy. wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 1:51pm:

Funny armchair didn't run off to the mods when he was saying Gillard was guilty of illegal conduct which was unproven.
Running to the mods about other posters saying bad bad words about tony wony the phony pony they must have pissed them self laughing as hard as we all did. As for unsubstantiated claims, you best ask Andrei how his assertions Bob Carr is gay is going. Grin

At least we know the sooky boy now. Grin

Big difference between Gillard and some dodgy financial transactions and Abbott and the unproven allegations saying he punched a wall near a woman that did not stand up in court and which no person is willing to sign a stat dec to back up.

No difference at all, they were BOTH unproven.

Your hypocrisy is showing...

Big difference. For Gillard, there are legal documents and a money trail. For Abbott, nothing but accusations with zero proof to back them up and court action that was thrown out.

"mummy he said a bad word about my hero, so I make up lies about the last PM". " I have even convinced myself they are true mummy". Grin

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 139596 Gender:	Re: Labor ahead 52/48 tpp Reply #139 - Nov 25^th, 2013 at 5:41pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 5:04pm: Illegal immigrants/illegal arrivals = same thing... Not even close.
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ImSpartacus2 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6913	Re: Labor ahead 52/48 tpp Reply #140 - Nov 25^th, 2013 at 5:54pm .
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ImSpartacus2 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6913	Re: Labor ahead 52/48 tpp Reply #141 - Nov 25^th, 2013 at 5:55pm .
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Re: Labor ahead 52/48 tpp
Reply #142 - Nov 25^th, 2013 at 5:55pm

skippy. wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 3:35pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 3:30pm:

skippy. wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 1:51pm:

Funny armchair didn't run off to the mods when he was saying Gillard was guilty of illegal conduct which was unproven.
Running to the mods about other posters saying bad bad words about tony wony the phony pony they must have pissed them self laughing as hard as we all did. As for unsubstantiated claims, you best ask Andrei how his assertions Bob Carr is gay is going. Grin

At least we know the sooky boy now. Grin

Big difference between Gillard and some dodgy financial transactions and Abbott and the unproven allegations saying he punched a wall near a woman that did not stand up in court and which no person is willing to sign a stat dec to back up.

No need for a stat dec sweet thing, another women accused him of indecent assault too, she even went to court, the Judge could not rule either way, so the judge did not find him not guilty at all. It must suck to support a man that is violent to women, have you no shame? Oh don't bother to answer that.

How many people Abbott's age have been before the courts TWICE!!! for assaulting a woman. I've never been charged with anything (unless you count parking and speed limit fines) and that's the same for an overwhelming majority of people Abbott's age. So how come people vote for a d!ckhead like that for their PM. Have you no pride in yourself.

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salad in Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5941	Re: Labor ahead 52/48 tpp Reply #143 - Nov 25^th, 2013 at 6:34pm We heard you the first time echo boy.
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Re: Labor ahead 52/48 tpp
Reply #144 - Nov 25^th, 2013 at 6:47pm

skippy. wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 3:35pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 3:30pm:

skippy. wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 1:51pm:

Funny armchair didn't run off to the mods when he was saying Gillard was guilty of illegal conduct which was unproven.
Running to the mods about other posters saying bad bad words about tony wony the phony pony they must have pissed them self laughing as hard as we all did. As for unsubstantiated claims, you best ask Andrei how his assertions Bob Carr is gay is going. Grin

At least we know the sooky boy now. Grin

Big difference between Gillard and some dodgy financial transactions and Abbott and the unproven allegations saying he punched a wall near a woman that did not stand up in court and which no person is willing to sign a stat dec to back up.

No need for a stat dec sweet thing, another women accused him of indecent assault too, she even went to court, the Judge could not rule either way, so the judge did not find him not guilty at all. It must suck to support a man that is violent to women, have you no shame? Oh don't bother to answer that.

actually, the judge found that there was no case to answer ie there was no evidence to support even a prima facie case.

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Re: Labor ahead 52/48 tpp
Reply #145 - Nov 25^th, 2013 at 7:01pm

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 6:47pm:

skippy. wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 3:35pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 3:30pm:

skippy. wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 1:51pm:

Funny armchair didn't run off to the mods when he was saying Gillard was guilty of illegal conduct which was unproven.
Running to the mods about other posters saying bad bad words about tony wony the phony pony they must have pissed them self laughing as hard as we all did. As for unsubstantiated claims, you best ask Andrei how his assertions Bob Carr is gay is going. Grin

At least we know the sooky boy now. Grin

Big difference between Gillard and some dodgy financial transactions and Abbott and the unproven allegations saying he punched a wall near a woman that did not stand up in court and which no person is willing to sign a stat dec to back up.

No need for a stat dec sweet thing, another women accused him of indecent assault too, she even went to court, the Judge could not rule either way, so the judge did not find him not guilty at all. It must suck to support a man that is violent to women, have you no shame? Oh don't bother to answer that.

actually, the judge found that there was no case to answer ie there was no evidence to support even a prima facie case.

Actually, you're a liar, surprise surprise surprise... Roll Eyes

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Re: Labor ahead 52/48 tpp
Reply #146 - Nov 25^th, 2013 at 7:13pm

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 6:47pm:

skippy. wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 3:35pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 3:30pm:

skippy. wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 1:51pm:

Funny armchair didn't run off to the mods when he was saying Gillard was guilty of illegal conduct which was unproven.
Running to the mods about other posters saying bad bad words about tony wony the phony pony they must have pissed them self laughing as hard as we all did. As for unsubstantiated claims, you best ask Andrei how his assertions Bob Carr is gay is going. Grin

At least we know the sooky boy now. Grin

Big difference between Gillard and some dodgy financial transactions and Abbott and the unproven allegations saying he punched a wall near a woman that did not stand up in court and which no person is willing to sign a stat dec to back up.

No need for a stat dec sweet thing, another women accused him of indecent assault too, she even went to court, the Judge could not rule either way, so the judge did not find him not guilty at all. It must suck to support a man that is violent to women, have you no shame? Oh don't bother to answer that.

actually, the judge found that there was no case to answer ie there was no evidence to support even a prima facie case.

Can you back that up with ... anything?

I heard that the magistrate complained of "enormous conflict" between the prosecution and defence evidence.

Willing to look at whatever you've got though.

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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: Labor ahead 52/48 tpp Reply #147 - Nov 25^th, 2013 at 7:16pm Damn rogue polls
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skippy. Gold Member Offline Posts: 20882 Gender:	Re: Labor ahead 52/48 tpp Reply #148 - Nov 25^th, 2013 at 7:20pm Just waiting for next poor women to come forward with her horrible ordeal at the hands of Abbott.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75191 Gender:	Re: Labor ahead 52/48 tpp Reply #149 - Nov 25^th, 2013 at 7:21pm Maqqa wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 7:16pm: Damn rogue polls get used to them .. I've got a feeling you're going to have a lot of rogue polls.
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