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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: Labor ahead 52/48 tpp Reply #15 - Nov 25^th, 2013 at 6:22am The carbon tax will be repealed, with or without shoddy polls
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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Labor ahead 52/48 tpp Reply #16 - Nov 25^th, 2013 at 6:22am Independents 5%, up four and Others 6%, down 5. Palmer's PUP losing it's shine ? Sure it's only one poll and if it is reinforced in the future. Greens, from their second best election result has gained over 20% extra support since the election.
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Re: Labor ahead 52/48 tpp
Reply #17 - Nov 25^th, 2013 at 6:23am

____ wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 6:10am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 6:06am:

Stratos wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 6:03am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 5:55am:

I don't mind that he was accused. I do mind the fact that he was not convicted, yet you continue to call him a woman basher despite this not being what the court decided. Continue with the lie and you will be reported each time.

Oh cool you can report people for lying? Does that mean I can get people who call asylum seekers illegals banned?

No, the government calls them illegal immigrants. Check if you don't believe me.

"Illegal arrivals" is the spin from the con-alition for boat refugees.

No, it's called "calling a spade a spade". Something Labor & the Greens wouldn't know the first thing about, with them being all spin and no substance.

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Re: Labor ahead 52/48 tpp
Reply #18 - Nov 25^th, 2013 at 6:25am

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 6:22am:

The carbon tax will be repealed, with or without shoddy polls

How.

You still have to replace the carbon levy with a better model or some cross benchers like MR X will vote against it's removal. It's not a done deal while the con-alition are dragging the extremely expensive and ineffective Direct Inaction.

The women basher may be revealed as a liar the rest of his term if the Levy remains and Abbott doesn't call a DD.

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Re: Labor ahead 52/48 tpp
Reply #19 - Nov 25^th, 2013 at 6:28am

____ wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 6:25am:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 6:22am:

The carbon tax will be repealed, with or without shoddy polls

How.

You still have to replace the carbon levy with a better model or some cross benchers like MR X will vote against it's removal. It's not a done deal while the con-alition are dragging the extremely expensive and ineffective Direct Inaction.

The women basher may be revealed as a liar the rest of his term if the Levy remains and Abbott doesn't call a DD.

Because abbott will not be swayed by this obvious attempt at changing australian politics

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Reply #20 - Nov 25^th, 2013 at 6:29am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 6:23am:

____ wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 6:10am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 6:06am:

Stratos wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 6:03am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 5:55am:

I don't mind that he was accused. I do mind the fact that he was not convicted, yet you continue to call him a woman basher despite this not being what the court decided. Continue with the lie and you will be reported each time.

Oh cool you can report people for lying? Does that mean I can get people who call asylum seekers illegals banned?

No, the government calls them illegal immigrants. Check if you don't believe me.

"Illegal arrivals" is the spin from the con-alition for boat refugees.

No, it's called "calling a spade a spade". Something Labor & the Greens wouldn't know the first thing about, with them being all spin and no substance.

It's not illegal considering the Chinese falun Gong refugees were accepted in Darwin last year and conservatives didn't call them illegal arrivals.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/refugees-in-darwin-intent-on-nz-20120410-1wmzs.ht...

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Re: Labor ahead 52/48 tpp
Reply #21 - Nov 25^th, 2013 at 6:29am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 6:23am:

No, it's called "calling a spade a spade". Something Labor & the Greens wouldn't know the first thing about, with them being all spin and no substance.

No its simply being right and being wrong. Calling them illegal immigrants is not only purely negative speak, it is also factually wrong. Feel free to provide any evidence to the contrary.

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Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26401 Gender:	Re: Labor ahead 52/48 tpp Reply #22 - Nov 25^th, 2013 at 6:29am By the way, how many Indonesians were polled??? Just wondering...
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Re: Labor ahead 52/48 tpp
Reply #23 - Nov 25^th, 2013 at 6:30am

Stratos wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 6:29am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 6:23am:

No, it's called "calling a spade a spade". Something Labor & the Greens wouldn't know the first thing about, with them being all spin and no substance.

No its simply being right and being wrong. Calling them illegal immigrants is not only purely negative speak, it is also factually wrong. Feel free to provide any evidence to the contrary.

Sure, attempting to enter Australian territory without a passport and visa is illegal, a breach of the Immigration Act.

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Re: Labor ahead 52/48 tpp
Reply #24 - Nov 25^th, 2013 at 6:31am

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 6:28am:

____ wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 6:25am:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 6:22am:

The carbon tax will be repealed, with or without shoddy polls

How.

You still have to replace the carbon levy with a better model or some cross benchers like MR X will vote against it's removal. It's not a done deal while the con-alition are dragging the extremely expensive and ineffective Direct Inaction.

The women basher may be revealed as a liar the rest of his term if the Levy remains and Abbott doesn't call a DD.

Because abbott will not be swayed by this obvious attempt at changing australian politics

Whats that mean … he will not come out from under his rock for a DD unless his sex daughters hold his hand the whole time.

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Re: Labor ahead 52/48 tpp
Reply #25 - Nov 25^th, 2013 at 6:35am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 6:30am:

Sure, attempting to enter Australian territory without a passport and visa is illegal, a breach of the Immigration Act.

It is overruled by this document we signed called the UN Convention on Refugees

1. The Contracting States shall not impose penalties, on account of their
illegal entry or presence, on refugees who, coming directly from a territory
where their life or freedom was threatened in the sense of Article1, enter or
are present in their territory without authorization, provided they present
themselves without delay to the authorities and show good cause for their
illegal entry or presence.

They are breaking no laws, committing no crimes. Also you said this.

Quote:

Sick of you repeating this lie of which he was not convicted by a court of law.

So you are willing to use this fact to save a prime minister but on the other hand are not using it to defend thousands of desperate people who come to our shores on boats. A little consistency please

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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 11:24pm:

Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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Re: Labor ahead 52/48 tpp
Reply #26 - Nov 25^th, 2013 at 6:38am

____ wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 6:31am:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 6:28am:

____ wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 6:25am:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 6:22am:

The carbon tax will be repealed, with or without shoddy polls

How.

You still have to replace the carbon levy with a better model or some cross benchers like MR X will vote against it's removal. It's not a done deal while the con-alition are dragging the extremely expensive and ineffective Direct Inaction.

The women basher may be revealed as a liar the rest of his term if the Levy remains and Abbott doesn't call a DD.

Because abbott will not be swayed by this obvious attempt at changing australian politics

Whats that mean … he will not come out from under his rock for a DD unless his sex daughters hold his hand the whole time.

YOU GUTLESS poofter leave his family out of your s h I t posts Angry

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THE DUMB LEFTIES ON THIS BOARD DONT KNOW IF THERE WINDING THEIR ARSE OR SCRATCHING THEIR WATCH

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Labor ahead 52/48 tpp Reply #27 - Nov 25^th, 2013 at 6:43am from the article: Quote: the quickest poll lead achieved by any federal opposition after losing an election. Also, Greens back to where they were in 2010. So much for their terminal decline Poor Bill Glasson - about to get his arse handed to him twice in a row.
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Re: Labor ahead 52/48 tpp
Reply #28 - Nov 25^th, 2013 at 6:44am

woody2014 wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 6:38am:

____ wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 6:31am:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 6:28am:

____ wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 6:25am:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 6:22am:

The carbon tax will be repealed, with or without shoddy polls

How.

You still have to replace the carbon levy with a better model or some cross benchers like MR X will vote against it's removal. It's not a done deal while the con-alition are dragging the extremely expensive and ineffective Direct Inaction.

The women basher may be revealed as a liar the rest of his term if the Levy remains and Abbott doesn't call a DD.

Because abbott will not be swayed by this obvious attempt at changing australian politics

Whats that mean … he will not come out from under his rock for a DD unless his sex daughters hold his hand the whole time.

YOU GUTLESS poofter leave his family out of your s h I t posts Angry

Creepy Abbott sexed up his daughters … not me.

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Re: Labor ahead 52/48 tpp
Reply #29 - Nov 25^th, 2013 at 6:44am

Stratos wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 6:35am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 6:30am:

Sure, attempting to enter Australian territory without a passport and visa is illegal, a breach of the Immigration Act.

It is overruled by this document we signed called the UN Convention on Refugees

1. The Contracting States shall not impose penalties, on account of their
illegal entry or presence, on refugees who, coming directly from a territory
where their life or freedom was threatened in the sense of Article1, enter or
are present in their territory without authorization, provided they present
themselves without delay to the authorities and show good cause for their
illegal entry or presence.

They are breaking no laws, committing no crimes. Also you said this.

Quote:

Sick of you repeating this lie of which he was not convicted by a court of law.

So you are willing to use this fact to save a prime minister but on the other hand are not using it to defend thousands of desperate people who come to our shores on boats. A little consistency please

Yes, until their application for asylum is accepted or denied, they are classed as an illegal immigrant. If accepted as an asylum seeker, they are released. If denied, they are deported. No one ever said the act of seeking asylum is illegal, just the manner in which they attempt to enter this country.

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