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Torpedo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 867 Sydney Gender:	Re: 90% of Indonesians wants war due to Labor's error Reply #30 - Nov 26^th, 2013 at 10:20am ...
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Re: 90% of Indonesians wants war due to Labor's error
Reply #31 - Nov 26^th, 2013 at 10:23am

Torpedo wrote on Nov 26^th, 2013 at 10:16am:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 7:31pm:

The poll also showed 7.6 per cent of people would support some sort of military action, while an overwhelming majority of 91.5 per cent were against such a move.

The vast majority of those surveyed (87 per cent) also believe Indonesia's intelligence
capabilities have been proven to be weak
as a result of the eavesdropping.

This...
All this bullshit re: apologies is fomented and fed to idiots here and there.
The media (ABC largely) should be punished for inciting violence and hatred between the nations, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was revealed that the left media purposely trying to provoke war
Which is a serious crime Lips Sealed

I do believe they way they release certain information maybe needs looking at,..

look at the live stock fiasco all thanks to the ABC..when you are dealing with a childish country like this..some form of protocol should exist before they do what they do..

just supposing this did create a WAR...I know !that thought never crossed my mind either.. but looking at these reports who the hell would know??..

these are very very militant people..who knows they may plan to bomb Bali again we have a lot of aussies there all the time..

will the ABC be held accountable do you think?????

somehow the ABC seems to have more rights than anyother form of media..

imagine what would be said had NewsLtd broke this news..

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Re: 90% of Indonesians wants war due to Labor's error
Reply #32 - Nov 26^th, 2013 at 10:25am

warrigal wrote on Nov 26^th, 2013 at 10:17am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 26^th, 2013 at 7:15am:

they want a war they will get one.

Then you won't have a job problem, you will be conscripted.

The truth is....no one wants war, it was a maqqa lie.

The defence force aren't going to take a 47 year old person.

But if we put a force in Indonesia, I am prepared to go as a civilian worker. Hunt down boat people smugglers or terroists or even just be a government pen pusher that travels in and out.

look I am a wee bit further on than 47.. but have not a thing to lose and would fight for this country..I am no coward..

got a mop and broom let me at em..

all those who think the country isnt worth fighting for...feel free to leave

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Re: 90% of Indonesians wants war due to Labor's error
Reply #33 - Nov 26^th, 2013 at 10:31am

will the ABC be held accountable do you think?????

I'm not really an ABC fan, but good on them this time, they did the right thing.

They would have and should have been held accountable if they had NOT released that information.

Some people like transparency within government and the media, usually lefties, the backwards are always suckers for closed operations and deceit.

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Re: 90% of Indonesians wants war due to Labor's error
Reply #34 - Nov 26^th, 2013 at 10:33am

cods wrote on Nov 26^th, 2013 at 10:25am:

warrigal wrote on Nov 26^th, 2013 at 10:17am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 26^th, 2013 at 7:15am:

they want a war they will get one.

Then you won't have a job problem, you will be conscripted.

The truth is....no one wants war, it was a maqqa lie.

The defence force aren't going to take a 47 year old person.

But if we put a force in Indonesia, I am prepared to go as a civilian worker. Hunt down boat people smugglers or terroists or even just be a government pen pusher that travels in and out.

look I am a wee bit further on than 47.. but have not a thing to lose and would fight for this country..I am no coward..

got a mop and broom let me at em..

all those who think the country isnt worth fighting for...feel free to leave

The dilemma the Aussies are faced with, is what, or who are we going to fight for? The small number of Aussies don't belong in this community anymore, it's all about: minorities
I don't feel like fighting for these "minorities"

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Re: 90% of Indonesians wants war due to Labor's error
Reply #35 - Nov 26^th, 2013 at 10:36am

muso wrote on Nov 26^th, 2013 at 6:18am:

For those very naive people who think there is a grass roots reaction in Indonesia, let me tell you how it works.

Are you honestly so naive to think that the protests in Jakarta were spontaneous? - that the "protesters" were not paid by the government to burn the improvised printout of the Australian flag?

Indonesians are not easily roused. Generally they get on with life. Even if somebody blows up a bridge in the neighbourhood, they don't make a big song and dance about it.

If you want a demonstration in Indonesia, it's very easy. People will do just about anything for money, and demonstrations are organised by the government for that purpose.

What purpose? Money. That's the name of the game.

Are there spontaneous demonstrations in Jakarta that are not organised by the government? Yes. They don't last very long though. Everybody knows that.

I worked in Indonesia for a short time. When we wanted security, we hired the police. Of course we had to provide them with transport, because they didn't have any of their own.

Absolutley 100 percent correct. SBY is playing chess not checkers. Unfortunately Abbbott has played into it by refusing to give an apology, the Indonesian media are making much of his political immaturity. Yudhouyono is playing off the Chinese against Australia at the moment. There is no huge gorundswell of public opinion against australia in Indonesia and any talk of miltiary action is ludicrous.

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warrigal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2569 australia Gender:	Re: 90% of Indonesians wants war due to Labor's error Reply #36 - Nov 26^th, 2013 at 11:22am So they just disrespect us by burning our flag. WE and the Americans just should of let japan have those islands in WW 2
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Re: 90% of Indonesians wants war due to Labor's error
Reply #37 - Nov 26^th, 2013 at 11:29am

Torpedo wrote on Nov 26^th, 2013 at 10:33am:

cods wrote on Nov 26^th, 2013 at 10:25am:

warrigal wrote on Nov 26^th, 2013 at 10:17am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 26^th, 2013 at 7:15am:

they want a war they will get one.

Then you won't have a job problem, you will be conscripted.

The truth is....no one wants war, it was a maqqa lie.

The defence force aren't going to take a 47 year old person.

But if we put a force in Indonesia, I am prepared to go as a civilian worker. Hunt down boat people smugglers or terroists or even just be a government pen pusher that travels in and out.

look I am a wee bit further on than 47.. but have not a thing to lose and would fight for this country..I am no coward..

got a mop and broom let me at em..

all those who think the country isnt worth fighting for...feel free to leave

The dilemma the Aussies are faced with, is what, or who are we going to fight for? The small number of Aussies don't belong in this community anymore, it's all about: minorities
I don't feel like fighting for these "minorities"

what are you talking about.

We would fight for our rights and the respect that should be shown to us.

I don't think born Australians are a minority.

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Re: 90% of Indonesians wants war due to Labor's error
Reply #38 - Nov 26^th, 2013 at 11:29am

warrigal wrote on Nov 26^th, 2013 at 10:17am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 26^th, 2013 at 7:15am:

they want a war they will get one.

Then you won't have a job problem, you will be conscripted.

The truth is....no one wants war, it was a maqqa lie.

The defence force aren't going to take a 47 year old person.

But if we put a force in Indonesia, I am prepared to go as a civilian worker. Hunt down boat people smugglers or terroists or even just be a government pen pusher that travels in and out.

You can enlist right up until 3 to 6 years before compulsory retirement age, and the libs are looking to bump that to 70. So you are heaps young enough to serve proudly in the ADF

You just have to want to, hell of a hurdle to overcome

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warrigal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2569 australia Gender:	Re: 90% of Indonesians wants war due to Labor's error Reply #39 - Nov 26^th, 2013 at 11:32am I don' t need that , I need a civilian Job.
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Re: 90% of Indonesians wants war due to Labor's error
Reply #40 - Nov 26^th, 2013 at 11:34am

Maqqa wrote on Nov 25^th, 2013 at 7:31pm:

http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/20014369/almost-90-of-indons-want-harsher-action/

Almost 90 per cent of Indonesians want their government to deliver an even harsher warning to Australia over spying revelations, although less than eight per cent support a military strike.

Maybe someone should point out to those 8% that indonesia isn't capable of launching a successful strike against Australia and two, if they could, the ADF considers indonesia as nothing more than a target rich environment.

They should just calm the bugger down and let it go, friggen whingers.

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Re: 90% of Indonesians wants war due to Labor's error
Reply #41 - Nov 26^th, 2013 at 11:37am

warrigal wrote on Nov 26^th, 2013 at 11:32am:

I don' t need that , I need a civilian Job.

That wasn't your initial statement now was it?

You said they wouldn't take you, you and I both know, you just couldn't be bothered serving your country under any circumstance.

You are not alone there, most socialist are more than willing to leave any sort of difficult or dangerous work to be done by someone else, especially when it comes to defending this country from any and all agressors.

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FriYAY Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7395	Re: 90% of Indonesians wants war due to Labor's error Reply #42 - Nov 26^th, 2013 at 11:39am The .22 and the slug gun are locked and loaded!!!
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Re: 90% of Indonesians wants war due to Labor's error
Reply #43 - Nov 26^th, 2013 at 12:20pm

warrigal wrote on Nov 26^th, 2013 at 11:22am:

So they just disrespect us by burning our flag.

WE and the Americans just should of let japan have those islands in WW 2

The flag burning is an emotional ploy, only plebs get manipulated by stunts like this. The Indos fought another war of independence after the Japs were kicked out, the Japs were never going to retain control of Indonesia with or without our help.

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Reply #44 - Nov 26^th, 2013 at 1:05pm

ian wrote on Nov 26^th, 2013 at 12:20pm:

warrigal wrote on Nov 26^th, 2013 at 11:22am:

So they just disrespect us by burning our flag.

WE and the Americans just should of let japan have those islands in WW 2

The flag burning is an emotional ploy, only plebs get manipulated by stunts like this. The Indos fought another war of independence after the Japs were kicked out, the Japs were never going to retain control of Indonesia with or without our help.

Funny how the TV cameras are always around when they burn a flag.

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ok lovey, can we just get one more shot of the flag burning on the ground. Oh! It's already burnt?
That's ok, we have plenty more flag printouts.....

No, you need to look angry. Stop laughing. ....Ah! yes that's a lovely grimace.... and cut!

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