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Re: Aussies don't like Islam
Reply #195 - Dec 1^st, 2013 at 11:24pm

Yadda wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 10:36pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 10:19pm:

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Just WHY do people have to tolerate and accept Islam??
Why can't people just reject it and hold it in utter contempt, as they do with Scientology, voodoo, sado-masochism, satanism, cannibalism, Christianity, secularism, Judaism, Hinduism???

This little thing called "Freedom of Religion"?

You mean moslems must have the "Freedom of Religion", to slit my throat, if i offend/insult moslems, by rejecting THEIR authority over my life.

Nope.

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The right of a moslem, to practice his religion, includes the right of moslems, to murder those who offend/insult ISLAM, BECAUSE THEY [the non-moslems], DO NOT BELIEVE AS THEY [the moslems] DO.

Now, what did you admit to, Yadda? Oh, thats right that your viewpoint on Islam and Muslims was, "preconcieved," and, prejudicial." Appears you're proving that right once more. Roll Eyes

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Reply #196 - Dec 1^st, 2013 at 11:54pm

Stratos wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 11:19pm:

Yadda wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 11:12pm:

So.

Do you believe that God will not destroy those who hate his laws and his righteousness ?

Do you think that God is going to kill a few people, maybe ?

Duh ???????

You are literally, LITERALLY saying genocide is OK for the God of the Bible with this statement

Stratos,

You were a Presbyterian.

Not me.

Stratos,

Do you believe that the bible God is NOT, a God of judgement ?

Do you believe that the men of this 'wonderful' age, are unworthy of the harsh judgement, by God [their creator] ?

Are you going to save men from God's wrath, Stratos ?

Show him your cross, perhaps ?

Isaiah 26:21
For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Aussies don't like Islam
Reply #197 - Dec 2^nd, 2013 at 2:31am

YaddaYadda wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 11:12pm:

Stratos wrote Yesterday at 10:55pm:
Yadda wrote Yesterday at 10:49pm:
Proverbs 28:5
Evil men understand not judgment: but they that seek the LORD understand all things.

Judgement, what, agsinst an entire people?

Sounds like you are justifying Genocide if you think "judgement" is the answer

Deuteronomy 20

16 But of the cities of these people, which the Lord thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth:

17 But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the Lord thy God hath commanded thee:

So.

Do you believe that God will not destroy those who hate his laws and his righteousness ?

Do you think that God is going to kill a few people, maybe ?

Duh ???????

Through your refusal to deny, it is safe to assume you believe genocide is OK, but only if one religion says it is.

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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 11:24pm:

Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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Re: Aussies don't like Islam
Reply #198 - Dec 2^nd, 2013 at 10:22am

Yadda wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 10:36pm:

IMAGE...
http://images.smh.com.au/2012/09/15/3637564/art-protest3-620x349.jpg

Sydney CBD, 2012, moslem street protests.

WHAT DOES THAT IMAGE [above] DEPICT ?;
1/ A group of moslems, on the streets of a Western nation.
2/ A group of moslems, on the streets of a Western nation, exercising their lawful right >>> to express <<< their views and opinions, publicly.
3/ A group of moslems, on the streets of a Western nation, who are, ALSO, inciting the murder of persons who would dare to PUBLICLY EXPRESS, that they [non-moslems], do not believe as they [moslems] believe.
4/ A group of moslems, on the streets of a Western nation, demanding their right to exercise their 'freedom of religion',
...i.e. their 'right', to kill people who do not believe as they [moslems] believe.
5/ A group of moslems, on the streets of a Western nation, who [by their own PUBLIC DECLARATIONS] are seeking to intimidate [into silence] all other persons who may wish to PUBLICLY EXPRESS, that they [non-moslems], do not believe as they [moslems] believe.

AND #6/ A group of moslems,

religious bigots

, 'demonstrating', just how 'peaceful' ISLAM and moslems really are.

But Yadda you spend so much time here explaining to us how inherently deceptive muslims are.

Google: taqiyya

Clearly these muslims must be concealing their true nature right? They are actually peace-loving and tolerant - but because of their inherently deceptive nature, they have to project themselves as being bloodthirsty maniacs? No?

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Aussies don't like Islam Reply #199 - Dec 2^nd, 2013 at 10:22am bump
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Reply #200 - Dec 2^nd, 2013 at 10:44am

Stratos wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2013 at 2:31am:

YaddaYadda wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 11:12pm:

Stratos wrote Yesterday at 10:55pm:
Yadda wrote Yesterday at 10:49pm:
Proverbs 28:5
Evil men understand not judgment: but they that seek the LORD understand all things.

Judgement, what, agsinst an entire people?

Sounds like you are justifying Genocide if you think "judgement" is the answer

Deuteronomy 20

16 But of the cities of these people, which the Lord thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth:

17 But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the Lord thy God hath commanded thee:

So.

Do you believe that God will not destroy those who hate his laws and his righteousness ?

Do you think that God is going to kill a few people, maybe ?

Duh ???????

Through your refusal to deny, it is safe to assume you believe genocide is OK, but only if one religion says it is.

Stratos,

Just more smear, with your lies.

Unlike ISLAM.....

"...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him."

hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29

......the God i seek, does not, does NOT, give me permission [nor any authority] to murder his enemies.

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Leviticus 11:44
For I am the LORD your God: ye shall therefore sanctify yourselves, and ye shall be holy; for I am holy:....

Leviticus 20:22
Ye shall therefore keep all my statutes, and all my judgments, and do them: that the land, whither I bring you to dwell therein, spue you not out.
23 And ye shall not walk in the manners of the nation, which I cast out before you: for they committed all these things, and therefore I abhorred them.
24 But I have said unto you, Ye shall inherit their land, and I will give it unto you to possess it, a land that floweth with milk and honey: I am the LORD your God, which have separated you from other people.

2 Corinthians 6:14
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

Revelation 18:4
......Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

Revelation 21:7
He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Aussies don't like Islam
Reply #201 - Dec 2^nd, 2013 at 10:56am

Yadda wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2013 at 10:44am:

Stratos,

Just more smear, with your lies.

Here is the passage.

Deuteronomy

16 However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. 17 Completely destroy[a] them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the Lord your God has commanded you.

That is clear instruction from the God of the Bible for the Jews to commit genocide against 6 separate cultures. Do you think the behavior is acceptable or not? That is all I am asking you.

If you provide an answer in a few lines with maybe two colours and font sizes that would be great.

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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 11:24pm:

Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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Re: Aussies don't like Islam
Reply #202 - Dec 2^nd, 2013 at 11:43am

Stratos wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2013 at 10:56am:

Yadda wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2013 at 10:44am:

Stratos,

Just more smear, with your lies.

Here is the passage.

Deuteronomy

16 However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. 17 Completely destroy[a] them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the Lord your God has commanded you.

That is clear instruction from the God of the Bible for the Jews to commit genocide against 6 separate cultures. Do you think the behavior is acceptable or not? That is all I am asking you.

If you provide an answer in a few lines with maybe two colours and font sizes that would be great.

Can I phone a friend?

Brian, are you there? Hallo?

Oh yes, he's here and he says it's OK. Regrettable, but OK.

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 15^th, 2013 at 5:39pm:

I make no excuses for those nations and their laws, BV. I merely recognise that it is their right to create and unfortunately impose those punishments. It is terrible but I also recognise I have no right or ability to criticise them. I am neither a member of their religion or a citizen of any of those nations.

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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: Aussies don't like Islam Reply #203 - Dec 2^nd, 2013 at 11:47am I'm not Brian last time I checked Soren, and I disagree with that statement he posted. I also seriously doubt that Brian would condone religious genocide
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Reply #204 - Dec 2^nd, 2013 at 12:10pm

Stratos wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2013 at 11:47am:

I'm not Brian last time I checked Soren, and I disagree with that statement he posted.

I also seriously doubt that Brian would condone religious genocide

He not only posted it once he clarified it for emphasis. Brian doesn't condone (you assume), but as an act of state or as a religious act he refuses to criticise it. Brian wouldn't say boo to a final solution and remains silent when heads are hacked off.

Funny fellow is Brian. The only things he is happy to criticise is anything of the west or white.

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Aussies don't like Islam Reply #205 - Dec 2^nd, 2013 at 12:28pm Stratos wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2013 at 11:47am: I'm not Brian I am Brian. And so is Brian.
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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: Aussies don't like Islam Reply #206 - Dec 2^nd, 2013 at 12:32pm Soren wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2013 at 12:28pm: Stratos wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2013 at 11:47am: I'm not Brian I am Brian. And so is Brian. When you break it down, there's a little Brian in all of us
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Aussies don't like Islam Reply #207 - Dec 2^nd, 2013 at 12:44pm I'm Brian and so is my wife.
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\|dev\|null Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4434 Gender:	Re: Aussies don't like Islam Reply #208 - Dec 2^nd, 2013 at 1:25pm You're all sheep! I am not Brian!
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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: Aussies don't like Islam Reply #209 - Dec 2^nd, 2013 at 2:04pm The Life of Brian.
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