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Reply #45 - Sep 12th, 2014 at 11:19am
 

still, there has to be some organistion to have a church open every week.

'organised' religions are not just all bad.
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Reply #46 - Sep 12th, 2014 at 11:39am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 12th, 2014 at 11:19am:
still, there has to be some organistion to have a church open every week.

'organised' religions are not just all bad.


Dear Sprint -

watch George Carlin:



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Reply #47 - Sep 12th, 2014 at 7:45pm
 
Hi Bob,

I've seen it before. Its good.

I know Jesus, he's better. By quite a way.
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Reply #48 - Sep 12th, 2014 at 10:05pm
 
Phemanderac wrote on Sep 12th, 2014 at 10:02am:
The very moment that religion became "organised" it's link to spirituality became at best tenuous, at worst, non existent.

Organised religion, particularly in relatively recent history, is nothing more than a tool to exert power and control. Ironically, it is not the religious basis that is necessarily wrong either, however, it is the interpretations of said religion and the actions taken by people and then justified as being in the name of their brand that has done this.

Further, the reformation periods have been both driven by people representing religions and (here is the kicker...) resisted by members of the very same religious groups.

Slavery is an excellent example of this. Whilst reformation was certainly participated in by members of Christian groups and a range of "god fearing" people, slavery was simultaneously conducted by, supported by and profited by from members of Christian groups and a range of "god fearing" people. As such, it cannot be said that organised religion was in anyway fully responsible for reformation at least not without highlighting that it was simultaneously responsible for the very issues that required reforming...

In my opinion, organised religion is not actually in our species long term best interests. Just look at the bloody history also attached to organised religion, particularly when opposing religious views run into each other.

It may well be a case of "and then man made God in the image that most suited man's ego and ensured maximum leverage for a minority to exercise power over the masses...."


Excellent post all up, but that part really hit the spot.

Basically, religion was hijacked to serve the very thing it stands against. If you dress up something as the complete opposite of what it truly represents, and convince millions of people to believe in it, it is the perfect strategy for deceit and control.
We see our politicians and other people of power do the exact same thing in all different aspects of life.
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Reply #49 - Sep 12th, 2014 at 10:10pm
 


Spirituality is really just 'Fashion',
I hope you guys realise this...
...in an age when it is the most misused word going around.


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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #50 - Sep 12th, 2014 at 10:20pm
 
Jasin wrote on Sep 12th, 2014 at 10:10pm:
Spirituality is really just 'Fashion',
I hope you guys realise this...
...in an age when it is the most misused word going around.




Oh don't I know it. I was just saying in another post how some politicians wear this "fashion" to give off the do-gooder appeal.
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Reply #51 - Sep 12th, 2014 at 10:36pm
 
Freedumb wrote on Sep 12th, 2014 at 10:20pm:
Jasin wrote on Sep 12th, 2014 at 10:10pm:
Spirituality is really just 'Fashion',
I hope you guys realise this...
...in an age when it is the most misused word going around.





Oh don't I know it. I was just saying in another post how some politicians wear this "fashion" to give off the do-gooder appeal.


Well said and done Freedumb. I shall embrace you as my 'Morgana' - come, let us explore Chi Ejaculations in a room full of dusty ancient parchments. Smiley
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Reply #52 - Sep 13th, 2014 at 11:09pm
 
I must admit that I find the heading of this thread funny, religion is a word used wrongly often. I think you mean either a believer in a creator or?
Religious: Extremely scrupulous or conscientious, does that not also imply that washing daily and teeth brushing is also "religious"?.
BTW, satan worshippers are also "religious"

I am a Christian.  Wink
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Taqiyya: legal dispensation whereby a believing individual can deny his faith or commit illegal or blasphemous acts while they are in fear or risk of significant persecution
 
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Reply #53 - Sep 13th, 2014 at 11:40pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 12th, 2014 at 7:45pm:
Hi Bob,

I've seen it before. Its good.

I know Jesus, he's better. By quite a way.



Jesus is God - how can he be better?
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Reply #54 - Sep 14th, 2014 at 6:26pm
 
Gryphon49 wrote on Sep 13th, 2014 at 11:09pm:
I must admit that I find the heading of this thread funny, religion is a word used wrongly often. I think you mean either a believer in a creator or?
Religious: Extremely scrupulous or conscientious, does that not also imply that washing daily and teeth brushing is also "religious"?.
BTW, satan worshippers are also "religious"

I am a Christian.  Wink


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JaSin: You have a great sense of humour!  Cheesy
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