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Reply #15 - Nov 29^th, 2013 at 7:46pm

Grendel wrote on Nov 29^th, 2013 at 7:11pm:

My opinion re public/private... if you choose private then you should pay for it not the government.
Specifically on education... private schools should fund themselves that is what private means, public schools should be funded by the state governments they are their responsibility. Each child should be funded by the Commonwealth individually no matter what form of education private or public their parents decide they should go to...

Forget about your opinion for a minute as I'm not sure anyone cares anyway but how about Abbotts

unity ticket

on education ???

He lied - He made a very specific commitment pre election and has now clearly broken that promise.

Abbott needed to shut down Labors advantage on education and to do it he quite simply lied.

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Reply #16 - Nov 29^th, 2013 at 7:56pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 29^th, 2013 at 7:46pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 29^th, 2013 at 7:34pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 29^th, 2013 at 7:22pm:

The issue I have always had is that I am perfectly happy to pay for my own children in private schooling.

But why should I not get a tax rebate for not using the public system?

You don't pay tax in Australia and don't live in Australia and you still expect an education rebate?

This is not a personal point - more a generic one about the system in Australia for people who do what we would be doing.

If you make each point personal it becomes absurd.

You did use the word "I" three times?

Maybe your generic tax dollars went to roads and Hospitals ?

Why do people who don't have children or older children not get a tax rebate on education or people who are healthy get a rebate on medical etc. It quickly becomes real silly.

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Reply #17 - Nov 29^th, 2013 at 7:57pm

Dnarever wrote on Nov 29^th, 2013 at 7:56pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 29^th, 2013 at 7:46pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 29^th, 2013 at 7:34pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 29^th, 2013 at 7:22pm:

The issue I have always had is that I am perfectly happy to pay for my own children in private schooling.

But why should I not get a tax rebate for not using the public system?

You don't pay tax in Australia and don't live in Australia and you still expect an education rebate?

This is not a personal point - more a generic one about the system in Australia for people who do what we would be doing.

If you make each point personal it becomes absurd.

You did use the word "I" three times?

Maybe your generic tax dollars went to roads and Hospitals ?

Why do people who don't work or contribute to the tax pool get to have free healthcare at other people's expense?

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Reply #18 - Nov 29^th, 2013 at 8:02pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 29^th, 2013 at 7:57pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 29^th, 2013 at 7:56pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 29^th, 2013 at 7:46pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 29^th, 2013 at 7:34pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 29^th, 2013 at 7:22pm:

The issue I have always had is that I am perfectly happy to pay for my own children in private schooling.

But why should I not get a tax rebate for not using the public system?

You don't pay tax in Australia and don't live in Australia and you still expect an education rebate?

This is not a personal point - more a generic one about the system in Australia for people who do what we would be doing.

If you make each point personal it becomes absurd.

You did use the word "I" three times?

Maybe your generic tax dollars went to roads and Hospitals ?

Why do people who don't work or contribute to the tax pool get to have free healthcare at other people's expense?

What has that got to do with Abbott and Pyne's great big education lie ???

You must be disappointed in the governments lack of honesty ??

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Pyne "public schools can get stuffed" Reply #19 - Nov 29^th, 2013 at 8:05pm To be really honest I dont care. I do though care about the fact that the ALP always seem to be anti-private education and always wanted to take benefits off me which helped in areas of private investment - eg schools and healthcare. I am a man who supports user-pays. Labor clearly don't.
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Reply #20 - Nov 29^th, 2013 at 8:14pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 29^th, 2013 at 8:05pm:

To be really honest I dont care.

I do though care about the fact that the ALP always seem to be anti-private education and always wanted to take benefits off me which helped in areas of private investment - eg schools and healthcare.

I am a man who supports user-pays. Labor clearly don't.

LOL
Good one

Did you mean to be ironic Grin

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Reply #21 - Nov 29^th, 2013 at 9:15pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 29^th, 2013 at 8:14pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 29^th, 2013 at 8:05pm:

To be really honest I dont care.

I do though care about the fact that the ALP always seem to be anti-private education and always wanted to take benefits off me which helped in areas of private investment - eg schools and healthcare.

I am a man who supports user-pays. Labor clearly don't.

LOL
Good one

Did you mean to be ironic Grin

I think his wife does the ironing.

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Pyne "public schools can get stuffed" Reply #22 - Nov 29^th, 2013 at 9:16pm A shop does my ironing actually.
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96483	Re: Pyne "public schools can get stuffed" Reply #23 - Nov 29^th, 2013 at 9:24pm Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 29^th, 2013 at 9:16pm: A shop does my ironing actually. You take out your ironing? What for? So you can turn up to moderate this board all day? Take my advice, son. Get a cardigan. Save on the ironing.
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Reply #24 - Nov 29^th, 2013 at 9:29pm

I'm a few decades away from wearing cardigans son.

We'll leave that to old b@stards like you.

A shop does 10 shirts for 9 quid on the way to work - fking handsome.

I'm not going to do with it and my wife has 2 children to look after and doesnt have time.

You do the maths old fella.

Cardigans LOL - my old grandfather used to wear them. He used to go on about war stories too.. Maybe there's a link?

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Reply #25 - Nov 29^th, 2013 at 9:30pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 29^th, 2013 at 7:57pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 29^th, 2013 at 7:56pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 29^th, 2013 at 7:46pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 29^th, 2013 at 7:34pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 29^th, 2013 at 7:22pm:

The issue I have always had is that I am perfectly happy to pay for my own children in private schooling.

But why should I not get a tax rebate for not using the public system?

You don't pay tax in Australia and don't live in Australia and you still expect an education rebate?

This is not a personal point - more a generic one about the system in Australia for people who do what we would be doing.

If you make each point personal it becomes absurd.

You did use the word "I" three times?

Maybe your generic tax dollars went to roads and Hospitals ?

Why do people who don't work or contribute to the tax pool get to have free healthcare at other people's expense?

Taxpayer now, are we, son?

I do hope you’re not knocking your grandfather. Blokes like him fought and killed to keep the lower races out, you know.

You should show him some respect.

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Pyne "public schools can get stuffed" Reply #26 - Nov 29^th, 2013 at 9:32pm Always been a taxpayer son. Check with the HMRC if you like - I am doing my bit.
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96483	Re: Pyne "public schools can get stuffed" Reply #27 - Nov 29^th, 2013 at 9:36pm Better show us your giro then. On your unused desk next to your two passports thanks, Andrei. I want a good look at the number.
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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Pyne "public schools can get stuffed" Reply #28 - Nov 29^th, 2013 at 9:39pm No thanks boss. Just take it from me, I've paid into Australia in my time son. Like every good citizen should and taken out of it what I have deserved. As every good citizen is entitled.
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96483	Re: Pyne "public schools can get stuffed" Reply #29 - Nov 29^th, 2013 at 9:46pm You’re like Robin Hood, Andrei. Employ Asians, don’t you? Good workers, Asians. The birds are good lookers too - love you long time if you’re cashed up. They love a man with two passports, even if he is on the dole.
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