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Big Dave Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2164 Gender:	Re: If you get on a boat Reply #60 - Dec 1^st, 2013 at 10:57am The morons in the Labor Party let anybody in Stratos. That's where the stupid 90% figure comes from. If true that percentage will be drastically decreased in time when they investigate the visa status.
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Reply #61 - Dec 1^st, 2013 at 11:05am

The asylum seekers who have children will be a good chance of staying. Even if there is little proof they were fleeing danger. The government won't like the idea of uprooting children. The rest will have their situations scrutinised and the futures determined. When you say 90% Stratos you are talking about people on temporary visas. Both Labor and now the Liberals didn't hand out citizenship. Most asylum seekers are just guests. If situations aren't proven by asylum seekers then what they say means nothing.

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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: If you get on a boat Reply #62 - Dec 1^st, 2013 at 11:08am Come on Big Dave, do you have your papers in order? you aren't a filthy country shopper are you without the right papers? So come on, where is your evidence to support anything? I've given you heaps, now your turn. Or are you just going to fly in the face of facts and keep sprouting anti-refugee nonsense anyway?
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Reply #63 - Dec 1^st, 2013 at 11:12am

Stratos wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 11:08am:

Come on Big Dave, do you have your papers in order? you aren't a filthy country shopper are you without the right papers?

So come on, where is your evidence to support anything? I've given you heaps, now your turn.

Or are you just going to fly in the face of facts and keep sprouting anti-refugee nonsense anyway?

Most of the aslylum seekers in aus are on temporary visas Stratos. What do you want me to say? Many will be sent home in time. Is that not true? Your 90% figure will decrease.

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Reply #64 - Dec 1^st, 2013 at 11:17am

Big Dave wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 11:12am:

Stratos wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 11:08am:

Come on Big Dave, do you have your papers in order? you aren't a filthy country shopper are you without the right papers?

So come on, where is your evidence to support anything? I've given you heaps, now your turn.

Or are you just going to fly in the face of facts and keep sprouting anti-refugee nonsense anyway?

Most of the aslylum seekers in aus are on temporary visas Stratos. What do you want me to say? Many will be sent home in time. Is that not true? Your 90% figure will decrease.

No no no no, a TPV means they have a genuine claim to asylum and have been granted like it says, temporary protection. Even if they are sent home that doesn't mean they weren't a refugee, it means they aren't anymore.

Come one, papers please. Evidence. Something other than your own opinion.

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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 11:24pm:

Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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Reply #65 - Dec 1^st, 2013 at 11:25am

Stratos wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 11:17am:

Big Dave wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 11:12am:

Stratos wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 11:08am:

Come on Big Dave, do you have your papers in order? you aren't a filthy country shopper are you without the right papers?

So come on, where is your evidence to support anything? I've given you heaps, now your turn.

Or are you just going to fly in the face of facts and keep sprouting anti-refugee nonsense anyway?

Most of the aslylum seekers in aus are on temporary visas Stratos. What do you want me to say? Many will be sent home in time. Is that not true? Your 90% figure will decrease.

No no no no, a TPV means they have a genuine claim to asylum and have been granted like it says, temporary protection. Even if they are sent home that doesn't mean they weren't a refugee, it means they aren't anymore.

Come one, papers please. Evidence. Something other than your own opinion.

Labor didn't send anybody home. Just because they were given a TPV it doesn't make you a proper refugee. It's well known Stratos that most refugees are economic. Even bob car got up and said this. Just admit it.

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Reply #66 - Dec 1^st, 2013 at 11:33am

Big Dave wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 11:25am:

Stratos wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 11:17am:

Big Dave wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 11:12am:

Stratos wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 11:08am:

Come on Big Dave, do you have your papers in order? you aren't a filthy country shopper are you without the right papers?

So come on, where is your evidence to support anything? I've given you heaps, now your turn.

Or are you just going to fly in the face of facts and keep sprouting anti-refugee nonsense anyway?

Most of the aslylum seekers in aus are on temporary visas Stratos. What do you want me to say? Many will be sent home in time. Is that not true? Your 90% figure will decrease.

No no no no, a TPV means they have a genuine claim to asylum and have been granted like it says, temporary protection. Even if they are sent home that doesn't mean they weren't a refugee, it means they aren't anymore.

Come one, papers please. Evidence. Something other than your own opinion.

Labor didn't send anybody home.

Incorrect.

Where are you getting your information lies from? Bolty?

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Reply #67 - Dec 1^st, 2013 at 11:33am

Big Dave wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 11:25am:

Just because they were given a TPV it doesn't make you a proper refugee.

yes it does, that is exactly what it means

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To be granted a Protection visa (subclass 866) you will need to be found to engage Australia’s protection obligations because you either:

are a refugee as defined by the Refugees Convention
meet the Complementary Protection criteria in the Australian Migration Act 1958.
http://www.immi.gov.au/Visas/Pages/866.aspx

Big Dave wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 11:25am:

It's well known Stratos that most refugees are economic. Even bob car got up and said this. Just admit it.

Bob Carr was in fact wrong. Here are three websites that say why.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-14/no-evidence-bob-carr-economic-migrants/4821544
http://www.politifact.com.au/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/jun/28/bob-carr/are-boat-people-economic-migrants/
http://theconversation.com/factcheck-are-asylum-seekers-really-economic-migrants-15601

So, got any evidence to support your claims yet?

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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 11:24pm:

Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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Reply #68 - Dec 1^st, 2013 at 11:47am

John S wrote on Nov 29^th, 2013 at 10:38pm:

This clip shows Scott Morrison addressing detainees on Nauru just over a week ago. It was taken from local Nauruan TV. There’s not much I can say except the man is scum and the thought of him being a Minister in the government that runs this country is sickening.

http://cafewhispers.wordpress.com/2013/11/29/you-will-not-be-getting-what-you-go...

Well get a barf bag then and just get over it.
This current government was elected in a landslide election, and the nations support for the Coalition on stopping country shoppers and criminal people smuggling is overwhelming.

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Reply #69 - Dec 1^st, 2013 at 3:08pm

Stratos wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 11:17am:

Big Dave wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 11:12am:

Stratos wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 11:08am:

Come on Big Dave, do you have your papers in order? you aren't a filthy country shopper are you without the right papers?

So come on, where is your evidence to support anything? I've given you heaps, now your turn.

Or are you just going to fly in the face of facts and keep sprouting anti-refugee nonsense anyway?

Most of the aslylum seekers in aus are on temporary visas Stratos. What do you want me to say? Many will be sent home in time. Is that not true? Your 90% figure will decrease.

No no no no, a TPV means they have a genuine claim to asylum and have been granted like it says, temporary protection. Even if they are sent home that doesn't mean they weren't a refugee, it means they aren't anymore.

Come one, papers please. Evidence. Something other than your own opinion.

He's still looking, I guess. Undecided

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Reply #70 - Dec 1^st, 2013 at 3:15pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 3:08pm:

Stratos wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 11:17am:

Big Dave wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 11:12am:

Stratos wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 11:08am:

Come on Big Dave, do you have your papers in order? you aren't a filthy country shopper are you without the right papers?

So come on, where is your evidence to support anything? I've given you heaps, now your turn.

Or are you just going to fly in the face of facts and keep sprouting anti-refugee nonsense anyway?

Most of the aslylum seekers in aus are on temporary visas Stratos. What do you want me to say? Many will be sent home in time. Is that not true? Your 90% figure will decrease.

No no no no, a TPV means they have a genuine claim to asylum and have been granted like it says, temporary protection. Even if they are sent home that doesn't mean they weren't a refugee, it means they aren't anymore.

Come one, papers please. Evidence. Something other than your own opinion.

He's still looking, I guess. Undecided

Do you now look down on Australians because they went against you beliefs concerning people smuggling greg?

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Reply #71 - Dec 1^st, 2013 at 3:18pm

Big Dave wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 3:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 3:08pm:

Stratos wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 11:17am:

Big Dave wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 11:12am:

Stratos wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 11:08am:

Come on Big Dave, do you have your papers in order? you aren't a filthy country shopper are you without the right papers?

So come on, where is your evidence to support anything? I've given you heaps, now your turn.

Or are you just going to fly in the face of facts and keep sprouting anti-refugee nonsense anyway?

Most of the aslylum seekers in aus are on temporary visas Stratos. What do you want me to say? Many will be sent home in time. Is that not true? Your 90% figure will decrease.

No no no no, a TPV means they have a genuine claim to asylum and have been granted like it says, temporary protection. Even if they are sent home that doesn't mean they weren't a refugee, it means they aren't anymore.

Come one, papers please. Evidence. Something other than your own opinion.

He's still looking, I guess. Undecided

Do you now look down on Australians because they went against you beliefs concerning people smuggling greg?

Have you stopped beating your wife?

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Reply #72 - Dec 1^st, 2013 at 3:21pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 3:18pm:

Big Dave wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 3:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 3:08pm:

Stratos wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 11:17am:

Big Dave wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 11:12am:

Stratos wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 11:08am:

Come on Big Dave, do you have your papers in order? you aren't a filthy country shopper are you without the right papers?

So come on, where is your evidence to support anything? I've given you heaps, now your turn.

Or are you just going to fly in the face of facts and keep sprouting anti-refugee nonsense anyway?

Most of the aslylum seekers in aus are on temporary visas Stratos. What do you want me to say? Many will be sent home in time. Is that not true? Your 90% figure will decrease.

No no no no, a TPV means they have a genuine claim to asylum and have been granted like it says, temporary protection. Even if they are sent home that doesn't mean they weren't a refugee, it means they aren't anymore.

Come one, papers please. Evidence. Something other than your own opinion.

He's still looking, I guess. Undecided

Do you now look down on Australians because they went against you beliefs concerning people smuggling greg?

Have you stopped beating your wife?

That response says it all. All I can say is "oh yeah" . Cool

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Reply #73 - Dec 1^st, 2013 at 3:22pm

Big Dave wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 11:25am:

Stratos wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 11:17am:

Big Dave wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 11:12am:

Stratos wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 11:08am:

Come on Big Dave, do you have your papers in order? you aren't a filthy country shopper are you without the right papers?

So come on, where is your evidence to support anything? I've given you heaps, now your turn.

Or are you just going to fly in the face of facts and keep sprouting anti-refugee nonsense anyway?

Most of the aslylum seekers in aus are on temporary visas Stratos. What do you want me to say? Many will be sent home in time. Is that not true? Your 90% figure will decrease.

No no no no, a TPV means they have a genuine claim to asylum and have been granted like it says, temporary protection. Even if they are sent home that doesn't mean they weren't a refugee, it means they aren't anymore.

Come one, papers please. Evidence. Something other than your own opinion.

Labor didn't send anybody home.

Do you actually believe the lies you post?

Seriously? I really would like to know.

Who told you that "Labor didn't send anybody home"? Was it Bolty, or someone in the Centrelink queue?

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Reply #74 - Dec 1^st, 2013 at 3:27pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 3:22pm:

Big Dave wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 11:25am:

Stratos wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 11:17am:

Big Dave wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 11:12am:

Stratos wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 11:08am:

Come on Big Dave, do you have your papers in order? you aren't a filthy country shopper are you without the right papers?

So come on, where is your evidence to support anything? I've given you heaps, now your turn.

Or are you just going to fly in the face of facts and keep sprouting anti-refugee nonsense anyway?

Most of the aslylum seekers in aus are on temporary visas Stratos. What do you want me to say? Many will be sent home in time. Is that not true? Your 90% figure will decrease.

No no no no, a TPV means they have a genuine claim to asylum and have been granted like it says, temporary protection. Even if they are sent home that doesn't mean they weren't a refugee, it means they aren't anymore.

Come one, papers please. Evidence. Something other than your own opinion.

Labor didn't send anybody home.

Do you actually believe the lies you post?

Seriously? I really would like to know.

Who told you that "Labor didn't send anybody home"? Was it Bolty, or someone in the Centrelink queue?

NO MORE REFUGEES cha cha cha NO MORE REFUGEES!!!! Grin

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