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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Whatever Happened To The Referendum. Nov 30^th, 2013 at 7:37am Local council referendum … is that being held with the DD early next year?
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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26285 Gender:	Re: Whatever Happened To The Referendum. Reply #1 - Nov 30^th, 2013 at 7:39am ____ wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 7:37am: Local council referendum … is that being held with the DD early next year? Sounds like you're scared of the Greens completely disappearing into oblivion at every level of government!
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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Whatever Happened To The Referendum. Reply #2 - Nov 30^th, 2013 at 7:41am Didn't your lot here already claim Greens were in difficulty federally … and then were proved wrong. Now you want to make the same claim at council level. Talk about hitting your head against a brick wall.
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Reply #3 - Nov 30^th, 2013 at 8:08am

____ wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 7:41am:

Didn't your lot here already claim Greens were in difficulty federally … and then were proved wrong.

Now you want to make the same claim at council level. Talk about hitting your head against a brick wall.

didnt you lose the balance of POWER> that you so hunger for? Roll Eyes

what is happening in WA does anyone know how that shemozzle is going??

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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: Whatever Happened To The Referendum. Reply #4 - Nov 30^th, 2013 at 8:46am When the PUPs block supply next year then we can have the referendum
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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: Whatever Happened To The Referendum. Reply #5 - Nov 30^th, 2013 at 11:12am adelcrow wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 8:46am: When the PUPs block supply next year then we can have the referendum You should tell greens slime that you are now having to rely on the pups instead of the greens. Green slime seems to think the greens are doing well lol poor bugger
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Reply #6 - Nov 30^th, 2013 at 1:37pm

____ wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 7:37am:

Local council referendum … is that being held with the DD early next year?

Historically, putting up a referendum on constitutional change - without bi-partisan support - is 99.9% FUTILE

A referendum to recognise local government in the constitution has been postponed, disappointing those who were hoping for an historic change for local councils.

The move would have granted the federal government the power to bypass state and territory governments and provide funding directly to local councils.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd says in calling the federal election for September 7, he was unable to move the local government referendum to a week earlier, given that it was scheduled for September 14.

The decision to postpone the referendum has been welcomed by the federal opposition, but has been criticised by local councils as
a missed opportunity to push ahead with urgent constitutional reform
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The referendum had originally been proposed under former Prime Minister Julia Gillard's leadership earlier this year.

A bill to hold the referendum was passed by federal parliament on June 24.

But electoral and constitutional laws meant the earliest it could be held alongside a federal election was September 14, the polling day set by Ms Gillard before she lost the Labor leadership to Mr Rudd.

Federal Opposition Leader Tony Abbott initially backed the referendum plan, but he subsequently encouraged people to vote "no" if they didn't understand the changes.
changed his mind - remembering he was supposed to oppose EVERYTHING proposed by Labor

Mr Rudd believes the coalition is therefore to blame for the referendum having to be postponed.

"I look with some sadness at the fact that the opposition has withdrawn effectively bipartisan support for that referendum and therefore regrettably, it can't proceed because it cannot be held earlier than the 14th. I've been a long term supporter of constitutional recognition for local government, but I think we're going to have to look at that in the next term."

When the referendum plan was voted on in parliament, six coalition senators voted against it,
despite it having the support of Opposition Leader Tony Abbott
.

Two coalition MPs also voted against the plan in the House of Representatives

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2013/08/05/local-council-referendum-postponed

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Reply #7 - Nov 30^th, 2013 at 3:17pm

cods wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 8:08am:

____ wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 7:41am:

Didn't your lot here already claim Greens were in difficulty federally … and then were proved wrong.

Now you want to make the same claim at council level. Talk about hitting your head against a brick wall.

didnt you lose the balance of POWER> that you so hunger for? Roll Eyes

what is happening in WA does anyone know how that shemozzle is going??

Nope, it's on loan so Greens can give conservatives enough rope to go hang themselves. So far the plan is on track.

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Reply #8 - Nov 30^th, 2013 at 5:52pm

____ wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 3:17pm:

cods wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 8:08am:

____ wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 7:41am:

Didn't your lot here already claim Greens were in difficulty federally … and then were proved wrong.

Now you want to make the same claim at council level. Talk about hitting your head against a brick wall.

didnt you lose the balance of POWER> that you so hunger for? Roll Eyes

what is happening in WA does anyone know how that shemozzle is going??

Nope, it's on loan so Greens can give conservatives enough rope to go hang themselves. So far the plan is on track.

So we have to rely on pups and the greens have no say. Does that mean the greens are doing well? lol pffft.

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Reply #9 - Nov 30^th, 2013 at 6:21pm

____ wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 3:17pm:

cods wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 8:08am:

____ wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 7:41am:

Didn't your lot here already claim Greens were in difficulty federally … and then were proved wrong.

Now you want to make the same claim at council level. Talk about hitting your head against a brick wall.

didnt you lose the balance of POWER> that you so hunger for? Roll Eyes

what is happening in WA does anyone know how that shemozzle is going??

Nope, it's on loan so Greens can give conservatives enough rope to go hang themselves. So far the plan is on track.

You'd be the only party whose plan is to lose votes dramatically over a period of several years and call it a success. you lost the balance of power because th crap way you handled it. next election you will be down to 5% because within a few months you wont even get media play!

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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: Whatever Happened To The Referendum. Reply #10 - Nov 30^th, 2013 at 6:32pm longweekend58 wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 6:21pm: you lost the balance of power because th crap way you handled it Greens still maintain the balance of power in the senate.
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Reply #11 - Nov 30^th, 2013 at 7:07pm

Stratos wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 6:32pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 6:21pm:

you lost the balance of power because th crap way you handled it

Greens still maintain the balance of power in the senate.

You mean like poo that is scheduled to be cleaned off at 5.00pm, is still there at 4.00pm. Wow, go figure.

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