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Non-Core Promises
Nov 30^th, 2013 at 11:30am

Now that the Coalition are in charge, they will have non-core promises.

These aren't lies, their just promises they can't fulfill and are "non-core".

The nbn - they stated 25mbps minimum to all Australians by 2016 - we know this is now false.
Gonski is gonsk.
Repealing the carbon tax and the cutting of power bills.
Stopping the boats.

What else has our new government failed at?

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Grappler Deep State Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 85332 Always was always will be HOME Gender:	Re: Non-Core Promises Reply #1 - Nov 30^th, 2013 at 11:32am Only part-time casuals under PromiseChoices..... no argument for reinstatement whatsoever....
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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: Non-Core Promises Reply #2 - Nov 30^th, 2013 at 11:34am There will be no carbon tax under a governmebt I lead There will be no gonski lies under a government election im trying to win There will be a surplus I will tell you about 200 or more times There will be a 16 year old come in to play soon I dont know about any brown paperr bag with 5000 cash
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Re: Non-Core Promises
Reply #3 - Nov 30^th, 2013 at 12:59pm

Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 11:30am:

...
These aren't lies, their just promises they can't fulfill and are "non-core".
...

If only it was that honest.

Making a promise that you later find you can't keep is one thing.
Making a promise that you know you won't be able to keep is another.
Making a promise that you have no intention of keeping, even if you can, is yet another.

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Re: Non-Core Promises
Reply #4 - Nov 30^th, 2013 at 1:55pm

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 11:34am:

There will be no carbon tax under a governmebt (sic) I lead

buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 11:13am:

Despite the initial disadvantages and a downgrading of quality of education
so cruelly thrust on the children of hardworking, working-class parents - the Abbott/Pyne LIE on Gonski reform has its POSITIVES

Abbott has handed Labor his

" ... not under any government I lead"

moment VERY early in the picture
UNLIKE Gillard, he has NO minority government to justify a reversal of election policy

Come next election, working class families of the LibNat
gains in the western suburbs - ANYTOWN - will be reminded of this deliberate BETRAYAL OF TRUST

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Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.'

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Re: Non-Core Promises
Reply #5 - Nov 30^th, 2013 at 2:36pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 1:55pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 11:34am:

There will be no carbon tax under a governmebt (sic) I lead

buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 11:13am:

Despite the initial disadvantages and a downgrading of quality of education
so cruelly thrust on the children of hardworking, working-class parents - the Abbott/Pyne LIE on Gonski reform has its POSITIVES

Abbott has handed Labor his

" ... not under any government I lead"

moment VERY early in the picture
UNLIKE Gillard, he has NO minority government to justify a reversal of election policy

Come next election, working class families of the LibNat
gains in the western suburbs - ANYTOWN - will be reminded of this deliberate BETRAYAL OF TRUST

Oh you poor thing. You want that moment for your ideology soooo bad don't you. lol pizzzzzz off fool. You can get it when liberals invite labor to campaign for them at an election.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96560	Re: Non-Core Promises Reply #6 - Nov 30^th, 2013 at 2:39pm SHAME LABOR SHAME
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Re: Non-Core Promises
Reply #7 - Nov 30^th, 2013 at 3:40pm

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 2:36pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 1:55pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 11:34am:

There will be no carbon tax under a governmebt (sic) I lead

buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 11:13am:

Despite the initial disadvantages and a downgrading of quality of education
so cruelly thrust on the children of hardworking, working-class parents - the Abbott/Pyne LIE on Gonski reform has its POSITIVES

Abbott has handed Labor his

" ... not under any government I lead"

moment VERY early in the picture
UNLIKE Gillard, he has NO minority government to justify a reversal of election policy

Come next election, working class families of the LibNat
gains in the western suburbs - ANYTOWN - will be reminded of this deliberate BETRAYAL OF TRUST

Oh you poor thing.

You want that moment for your ideology soooo bad don't you.

That "ideology" I adhere to, and want "soooo bad", is that EVERY child has the RIGHT to a quality of education as much as the next one

Regardless of being born into wealth, EVERY child has EVERY RIGHT to an equal opportunity and start in life - wherever possible

Outside of the political and social agenda of the government of the day

I STAND by this, PROUDLY

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'I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians.
Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.'

- Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi

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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: Non-Core Promises Reply #8 - Nov 30^th, 2013 at 4:03pm At the CORE of the speedo kids promises were lies
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Re: Non-Core Promises
Reply #9 - Nov 30^th, 2013 at 4:19pm

Non-core promise definition - and origins

A commitment to deliver (a service, funding, an item) that is subsequently set aside. The broken promise is then explained with the glib expression "oh, but that promise was non-core"

Now generalised to non-political situations, too.

Origin:

Australian federal elections at the turn of the 20th/21st centuries.
The conservative party (known as the
LibNat
coalition) made a number of election promises which were broken soon after the election.

The prime minister,
John Howard
, attempted to explain this behaviour by claiming that some promises are "core" and some are "non-core" and thus, don't count.

Not only did "No tax increases, no new taxes" turn out to be a non-core promise, but in the campaign,
Howard had also given a solemn undertaking that "I'm not going to break any promises".

That one was certainly "non-core"

Laurie Oakes (Australian political reporter/writer)
Excerpt from National Nine News (network TV) 12 May 2005
as quoted at news.ninemsn.com.au

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Re: Non-Core Promises
Reply #10 - Nov 30^th, 2013 at 4:22pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 3:40pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 2:36pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 1:55pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 11:34am:

There will be no carbon tax under a governmebt (sic) I lead

buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 11:13am:

Despite the initial disadvantages and a downgrading of quality of education
so cruelly thrust on the children of hardworking, working-class parents - the Abbott/Pyne LIE on Gonski reform has its POSITIVES

Abbott has handed Labor his

" ... not under any government I lead"

moment VERY early in the picture
UNLIKE Gillard, he has NO minority government to justify a reversal of election policy

Come next election, working class families of the LibNat
gains in the western suburbs - ANYTOWN - will be reminded of this deliberate BETRAYAL OF TRUST

Oh you poor thing.

You want that moment for your ideology soooo bad don't you.

That "ideology" I adhere to, and want "soooo bad", is that EVERY child has the RIGHT to a quality of education as much as the next one

Regardless of being born into wealth, EVERY child has EVERY RIGHT to an equal opportunity and start in life - wherever possible

Outside of the political and social agenda of the government of the day

I STAND by this, PROUDLY

Every child deserves an education, I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who doesn't believe that.
But in a supply / demand market capitalist society, you would agree that people who pay should receive a better one - as in better facilities, lower class numbers per teacher etc.

Supply and demand & return for investment.

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Re: Non-Core Promises
Reply #11 - Nov 30^th, 2013 at 5:45pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 3:40pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 2:36pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 1:55pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 11:34am:

There will be no carbon tax under a governmebt (sic) I lead

buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 11:13am:

Despite the initial disadvantages and a downgrading of quality of education
so cruelly thrust on the children of hardworking, working-class parents - the Abbott/Pyne LIE on Gonski reform has its POSITIVES

Abbott has handed Labor his

" ... not under any government I lead"

moment VERY early in the picture
UNLIKE Gillard, he has NO minority government to justify a reversal of election policy

Come next election, working class families of the LibNat
gains in the western suburbs - ANYTOWN - will be reminded of this deliberate BETRAYAL OF TRUST

Oh you poor thing.

You want that moment for your ideology soooo bad don't you.

That "ideology" I adhere to, and want "soooo bad", is that EVERY child has the RIGHT to a quality of education as much as the next one

Regardless of being born into wealth, EVERY child has EVERY RIGHT to an equal opportunity and start in life - wherever possible

Outside of the political and social agenda of the government of the day

I STAND by this, PROUDLY

Oh BS, get over yourself. Who the hell you think your fooling. You.

There is no government or person who doesn't feel the same. Your ideology stinks mate.

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