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New leaks to test Tony Abbott in Asia
Dec 2nd, 2013 at 6:05am
 
F#ck me...

any wonder we are so far in debt...


how much spying were the Labor government doing?

and what was it costing us?

NEW revelations from the stockpile of documents stolen by US security contractor Edward Snowden are expected to include evidence of Australian espionage against China and other Asian neighbours and expose the scale of surveillance by Australian agencies against their own citizens. The Abbott government is bracing for a new series of disclosures about Australian intelligence activity, which is likely to include fresh details on Indonesian spying that will further test the relationship with Jakarta. -
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Re: New leaks to test Tony Abbott in Asia
Reply #1 - Dec 2nd, 2013 at 6:11am
 
by the way..

what did we ever do to snowden that he's trying to put us into WWIII?  Angry
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Reply #2 - Dec 2nd, 2013 at 6:11am
 
Sounds like the ABC is waiting for Tony to get things back on track before releasing another tranche of confidential documents. If that does happen, Tony needs to leave his good-guy persona at the door and deal harshly with the ABC. In my opinion, he should've already by sacking the Managing Director.
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Reply #3 - Dec 2nd, 2013 at 6:15am
 
you are right... Tony handled the first lot of Labor spying like a pro...

while the quivering coward Labor/Green stooges and media lost their nerve and wanted Tony to grovel and apologise he held his nerve and saw it through like a champion..

some say...

there's going to be a two year drip feed of this Labor/Green spying which the new Liberal Government has to handle...
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Reply #4 - Dec 2nd, 2013 at 6:19am
 

The adults should be able to handle these simple revelations, it's all part of being......adult.
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Reply #5 - Dec 2nd, 2013 at 6:23am
 
True Blue... wrote on Dec 2nd, 2013 at 6:05am:
F#ck me...

any wonder we are so far in debt...


how much spying were the Labor government doing?

and what was it costing us?

NEW revelations from the stockpile of documents stolen by US security contractor Edward Snowden are expected to include evidence of Australian espionage against China and other Asian neighbours and expose the scale of surveillance by Australian agencies against their own citizens. The Abbott government is bracing for a new series of disclosures about Australian intelligence activity, which is likely to include fresh details on Indonesian spying that will further test the relationship with Jakarta. -



Where is the link to that story or it is just your opinion and where does it say a labor government done the spying. we been spying on other countries since WW2
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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/policy/new-leaks-to-test-tony-a...

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New leaks to test Tony Abbott in Asia by: GREG SHERIDAN From: The Australian December 02, 2013 12:00AM  NEW revelations from the stockpile of documents stolen by US security contractor Edward Snowden are expected to include evidence of Australian espionage against China and other Asian neighbours and expose the scale of surveillance by Australian agencies against their own citizens. The Abbott government is bracing for a new series of disclosures about Australian intelligence activity, which is likely to include fresh details on Indonesian spying that will further test the relationship with Jakarta.Snowden, a former US National Security Agency contractor, is also believed to have extensive material involving Australian intelligence efforts directed at China, Malaysia, Papua New Guinea, East Timor, Thailand and The Philippines, as well as various South Pacific nations.One of the most controversial matters will be the disclosure of a much wider surveillance and listening program within Australia than previously known.It is believed that all Australian activities likely to be revealed will be legal, with senior figures confident that no Australian intelligence agency has broken any Australian laws. However, Australia has fewer restrictions on domestic spying than the US and has undertaken targeted but extensive surveillance, most related to terrorism threats. Senior figures in the US and Australia believe that the Snowden leaks are the single most damaging episode to hit the Western intelligence effort since World War II.Last month, The Guardian Australia and the ABC published documents from Snowden suggesting that Australia's Defence Signals Directorate had tapped the phones of Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, his wife and senior colleagues.The revelations triggered a diplomatic row with Jakarta.The government, which has expressed regret for the revelations but has stopped short of an apology, is braced for the release of more documents stolen by Snowden, who has sought asylum in Russia.Canberra does not know exactly what will emerge from the Snowden stockpile, but it does know the full range of matters that could be revealed.The US government has comprehensive knowledge of every document that Snowden accessed through his varied intelligence career, but particularly in his last months as a consultant, working as a systems administrator for the NSA.Washington has shared with Canberra any information relevant to Australia, even though US authorities are not sure that Snowden stole every document that he accessed.Previous reports have put the number of documents Snowden has already supplied to media outlets, mainly The Guardian, at more than 200,000.A large number of Western officials and security experts believe the Snowden revelations are devastating to American intelligence and its ability to operate effectively in the future.Several sources told The Australian they believed this was a greater blow to Western intelligence than the Aldrich Ames or Kim Philby affairs.Ames was a CIA officer who betrayed all US agents working in and against the Soviet Union in the 1980s, resulting in the deaths of at least 10 people.In the 60s, the Cambridge spy ring of Philby, Guy Burgess, Donald Maclean and Anthony Blunt infiltrated to the heart of British intelligence on behalf of the Soviet Union.Senior intelligence figures say the Snowden documents reveal a great deal of what the Americans and their allies, including Australia, know about a range of sensitive matters. They also reveal US and Australian techniques of intelligence-gathering, particularly technical matters, which will make defences against such efforts much stronger in the future.Sources also expressed concern that the historic leaks to the Soviet Union were at least restricted to the Soviet Union and in a few cases its closest allies; the Snowden leaks are going public worldwide and will be available to everybody.The latest leaks are also producing a great deal of tension between the US and many of its allies, such as Germany and Spain, and its friends, such as Brazil and Mexico. This effect will likely be replicated to some extent for Australia and a number of its friends in Asia.
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Most importantly, sources said the leaks had fatally compromised domestic US support for the intelligence agencies and would result in greater restrictions on the agencies. They may also end the quiet but essential co-operation of US companies with the lawful intelligence requirements of US intelligence agencies.Rory Medcalf, director of the International Security program at the Lowy Institute and a former senior analyst at the Office of National Assessments, shares the view of the gravity of the Snowden leaks."My assumption is that we have only seen a small part of what Snowden has, and therefore there will be very severe damage to Australia to come," he told The Australian."What concerns me the most is the way this potentially tilts the balance against the US and its allies, and in favour of China and Russia. Where is the Chinese or Russian Snowden?"Snowden spent time in Hong Kong before moving to Russia. Western agencies believe the Chinese accessed all the information that Snowden took with him, as have the Russians.However, it is believed that Snowden has even more material stored in "the cloud" and accessible by a complicated series of passwords. It is not clear whether the Chinese and the Russians have access to that too.It has been revealed that South Korea and Singapore are also alleged to be involved in US intelligence activities directed at Indonesia.Western officials are bracing for a sustained campaign of leaks designed to cause maximum harm to their interests. - See more at: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/policy/new-leaks-to-test-tony-abbott-in-asia/story-e6frg8yo-1226772613742#sthash.5aM2A6Om.dpuf
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Re: New leaks to test Tony Abbott in Asia
Reply #8 - Dec 2nd, 2013 at 6:41am
 

OUCH!!!

Bobby, this could get serious.

Imagine if the whole of Asia gang up on us.

We are sitting ducks.
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Reply #9 - Dec 2nd, 2013 at 6:44am
 
We're doomed.
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Reply #10 - Dec 2nd, 2013 at 6:52am
 
Pine Gap is still spying under the Abbott Regime.

Abbott supports spying on our neighbours and Abbott supports spying on Australians.

Abbott, stop spying.
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____ wrote on Dec 2nd, 2013 at 6:52am:
Pine Gap is still spying under the Abbott Regime.

Abbott supports spying on our neighbours and Abbott supports spying on Australians.

Abbott, stop spying.



It's the same as if Tony has been caught with
his pants down in a girls school.
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Reply #12 - Dec 2nd, 2013 at 6:57am
 
Bobby. wrote on Dec 2nd, 2013 at 6:55am:
____ wrote on Dec 2nd, 2013 at 6:52am:
Pine Gap is still spying under the Abbott Regime.

Abbott supports spying on our neighbours and Abbott supports spying on Australians.

Abbott, stop spying.



It's the same as if Tony has been caught with
his pants down in a girls school.



or a boy's school. (abbott spent 3 years in a homosexual hotbed)
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Reply #13 - Dec 2nd, 2013 at 6:57am
 
Bobby thanks for putting the link up to the story, now it is up to true blue to show where it was a labor government that done all the spying

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Reply #14 - Dec 2nd, 2013 at 7:15am
 
Bobby. wrote on Dec 2nd, 2013 at 6:36am:
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/policy/new-leaks-to-test-tony-a...

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New leaks to test Tony Abbott in Asia by: GREG SHERIDAN From: The Australian December 02, 2013 12:00AM  .


I seem to recall the Murdoch press bagging the ABC for printing the previous spying revelations, (particularly that dolt Bolt).

Now they print this!!

smacking Hypocrites!!
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