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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Never act for East Timor.... Reply #45 - Dec 4^th, 2013 at 4:50pm Ah... East Timor... an indonesian-conquered lawless hell-hole one day and a safe democratic haven the next. To date, I don't recall any thanks for the liberation, the welfare and the lives lost getting them their country back.
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Re: Never act for East Timor....
Reply #46 - Dec 4^th, 2013 at 4:51pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 4^th, 2013 at 9:55am:

woody2014 wrote on Dec 4^th, 2013 at 9:45am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 4^th, 2013 at 9:25am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 4^th, 2013 at 9:09am:

Have you ever seen an admission of guilt quite like this?

The ex ASIO bloke that should be flying to the Hague to give evidence has been arrested.

News just in....they've cancelled his passport, so he can't go and give evidence.

I hope the Hague courts will set up a video link so he can give evidence.

It's wrong for a wealthy nation to steal from its poor neighbour, just so wrong!

I hope East Timor win the case, in spite of Abbott sabotaging the evidence.

What is of greater importance is the separation of powers.
Lawyers are supposed to have privileged communication with clients
& the law should be separated from Govt.

ASIO must have acted illegally.

I hope we get a high court ruling on this case.

A hell of assumptions. You clowns wouldn't know some was upya till they pulled out and the wind rushed in Wink

What assumptions?

Since when does one side in a court case get to smash in a law office & take all the records?

er...

ALL THE TIME! never heard of search warnants ya clown?

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 106979 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Never act for East Timor.... Reply #47 - Dec 4^th, 2013 at 4:52pm Longweekend ignores: Brandis signed the warrants to obstruct justice. Downer got a job out of it. The spying was illegal. What a scandal.
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Re: Never act for East Timor....
Reply #48 - Dec 4^th, 2013 at 4:53pm

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 4^th, 2013 at 4:51pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 4^th, 2013 at 9:55am:

woody2014 wrote on Dec 4^th, 2013 at 9:45am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 4^th, 2013 at 9:25am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 4^th, 2013 at 9:09am:

Have you ever seen an admission of guilt quite like this?

The ex ASIO bloke that should be flying to the Hague to give evidence has been arrested.

News just in....they've cancelled his passport, so he can't go and give evidence.

I hope the Hague courts will set up a video link so he can give evidence.

It's wrong for a wealthy nation to steal from its poor neighbour, just so wrong!

I hope East Timor win the case, in spite of Abbott sabotaging the evidence.

What is of greater importance is the separation of powers.
Lawyers are supposed to have privileged communication with clients
& the law should be separated from Govt.

ASIO must have acted illegally.

I hope we get a high court ruling on this case.

A hell of assumptions. You clowns wouldn't know some was upya till they pulled out and the wind rushed in Wink

What assumptions?

Since when does one side in a court case get to smash in a law office & take all the records?

er...

ALL THE TIME! never heard of search warnants ya clown?

Just one example will do please.

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Re: Never act for East Timor....
Reply #49 - Dec 4^th, 2013 at 4:59pm

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 4^th, 2013 at 4:48pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 4^th, 2013 at 5:45am:

Like the lawyer said

Australia never used to be like this

Another thing he said is that 'this won't be the end of it'

Fascist Germany's got nothing on Abbott's Australia.

Can Tony give us just one day when he doesn't cause a domestic or international sh1t storm.

I want my old Australia back, the one where we had some form of decency.

WHAT THE...????

WE all know you are stupid but I think you just set new levels for stupidity. Perhaps when Greens supporters are dragged away by the secret police in the dead of night and Asians are sent to death camps you might have a point. Up until then you just sound like you are in need of a brain transplant. Even SOB's brain would be an improvement!

so raiding a private premises is not what the Stasi used to do in east germany ?

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Re: Never act for East Timor....
Reply #50 - Dec 4^th, 2013 at 5:00pm

What some of you are missing is that both Labor and Libs have been briefed by ASIO into the details of this case and in the senate, Labor voted AGAINST forcing Brandis to answer questions. So what does that tell you? Labor, which has scarcely voted with the govt since losing office, has sided with the govt on an issue that could only embarrass the govt - not Labor.

Clearly they know something that the rest of us do not.

I do find it disturbing and amusing that Labor criticises spying on timor but has no problem with spying by itself on Indonesia.

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Re: Never act for East Timor....
Reply #51 - Dec 4^th, 2013 at 5:02pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 4^th, 2013 at 4:59pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 4^th, 2013 at 4:48pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 4^th, 2013 at 5:45am:

Like the lawyer said

Australia never used to be like this

Another thing he said is that 'this won't be the end of it'

Fascist Germany's got nothing on Abbott's Australia.

Can Tony give us just one day when he doesn't cause a domestic or international sh1t storm.

I want my old Australia back, the one where we had some form of decency.

WHAT THE...????

WE all know you are stupid but I think you just set new levels for stupidity. Perhaps when Greens supporters are dragged away by the secret police in the dead of night and Asians are sent to death camps you might have a point. Up until then you just sound like you are in need of a brain transplant. Even SOB's brain would be an improvement!

so raiding a private premises is not what the Stasi used to do in east germany ?

Yes Nail,
Australia is sounding like some 3rd world corrupt country
where the spy services do the bidding of big business
& the politicians get jobs out of abusing their power.

The courts must bring them to justice.

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Re: Never act for East Timor....
Reply #52 - Dec 4^th, 2013 at 5:07pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 4^th, 2013 at 4:47pm:

Innocent bystander wrote on Dec 4^th, 2013 at 4:46pm:

East Timor can get buggered, ungrateful front bottoms, they've done nothing but whinge about us ever since we liberated them, give East Timor back to Indonesia so they can resume the genocide.

wouldn't you be whinging if you were done out of 40 billion dollars worth of oil and gas ?

They were whinging well before that, and don't do the tired old leftist "I hate my own country" trick and jack up their complaint out of all proportion in order to make your country look even worse.

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Re: Never act for East Timor....
Reply #53 - Dec 4^th, 2013 at 5:24pm

Innocent bystander wrote on Dec 4^th, 2013 at 5:07pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 4^th, 2013 at 4:47pm:

Innocent bystander wrote on Dec 4^th, 2013 at 4:46pm:

East Timor can get buggered, ungrateful front bottoms, they've done nothing but whinge about us ever since we liberated them, give East Timor back to Indonesia so they can resume the genocide.

wouldn't you be whinging if you were done out of 40 billion dollars worth of oil and gas ?

They were whinging well before that, and don't do the tired old leftist "I hate my own country" trick and jack up their complaint out of all proportion in order to make your country look even worse.

This is not about East Timor winging - it's about our 3rd world spy service.

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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: Never act for East Timor.... Reply #54 - Dec 4^th, 2013 at 5:27pm This is about Alexander Downer as Foreign Minister using a govt agency to spy on East Timor to benefit a private business..Woodside..a business that he now works for.
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Re: Never act for East Timor....
Reply #55 - Dec 4^th, 2013 at 5:30pm

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 4^th, 2013 at 5:00pm:

What some of you are missing is that both Labor and Libs have been briefed by ASIO into the details of this case and in the senate, Labor voted AGAINST forcing Brandis to answer questions. So what does that tell you? Labor, which has scarcely voted with the govt since losing office, has sided with the govt on an issue that could only embarrass the govt - not Labor.

Clearly they know something that the rest of us do not.

I do find it disturbing and amusing that Labor criticises spying on timor but has no problem with spying by itself on Indonesia.

Why did they stop an Australian leaving today, a witness who was to give evidence against the Government position concerning the East Timor agreement? Sheer coincidence was it? Brandis made no reference to that.

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Re: Never act for East Timor....
Reply #56 - Dec 4^th, 2013 at 5:31pm

adelcrow wrote on Dec 4^th, 2013 at 5:27pm:

This is about Alexander Downer as Foreign Minister using a govt agency to spy on East Timor
to benefit a private business..Woodside..a business that he now works for.

It sure is & as I said it sounds like something from a 3rd world country -
you'd expect that to happen in Somalia not Australia.

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Reply #57 - Dec 4^th, 2013 at 5:33pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 4^th, 2013 at 5:30pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 4^th, 2013 at 5:00pm:

What some of you are missing is that both Labor and Libs have been briefed by ASIO into the details of this case and in the senate, Labor voted AGAINST forcing Brandis to answer questions. So what does that tell you? Labor, which has scarcely voted with the govt since losing office, has sided with the govt on an issue that could only embarrass the govt - not Labor.

Clearly they know something that the rest of us do not.

I do find it disturbing and amusing that Labor criticises spying on timor but has no problem with spying by itself on Indonesia.

Why did they stop an Australian leaving today, a witness who was to give evidence against the Government position concerning the East Timor agreement? Sheer coincidence was it? Brandis made no reference to that.

Were you at the ASIO meeting ?

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Reply #58 - Dec 4^th, 2013 at 5:37pm

woody2014 wrote on Dec 4^th, 2013 at 5:33pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 4^th, 2013 at 5:30pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 4^th, 2013 at 5:00pm:

What some of you are missing is that both Labor and Libs have been briefed by ASIO into the details of this case and in the senate, Labor voted AGAINST forcing Brandis to answer questions. So what does that tell you? Labor, which has scarcely voted with the govt since losing office, has sided with the govt on an issue that could only embarrass the govt - not Labor.

Clearly they know something that the rest of us do not.

I do find it disturbing and amusing that Labor criticises spying on timor but has no problem with spying by itself on Indonesia.

Why did they stop an Australian leaving today, a witness who was to give evidence against the Government position concerning the East Timor agreement? Sheer coincidence was it? Brandis made no reference to that.

Were you at the ASIO meeting ?

Of course not. But, while Brandis can, without public challenge, rabbit on about national interest needing protection as a justification for raiding the law office of the lawyer representing East Timor, it is another thing altogether why they prevented an Australian citizen's right to freely come and go, out and in to the Country.

Habeas Corpus.

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Re: Never act for East Timor....
Reply #59 - Dec 4^th, 2013 at 5:44pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 4^th, 2013 at 5:37pm:

woody2014 wrote on Dec 4^th, 2013 at 5:33pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 4^th, 2013 at 5:30pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 4^th, 2013 at 5:00pm:

What some of you are missing is that both Labor and Libs have been briefed by ASIO into the details of this case and in the senate, Labor voted AGAINST forcing Brandis to answer questions. So what does that tell you? Labor, which has scarcely voted with the govt since losing office, has sided with the govt on an issue that could only embarrass the govt - not Labor.

Clearly they know something that the rest of us do not.

I do find it disturbing and amusing that Labor criticises spying on timor but has no problem with spying by itself on Indonesia.

Why did they stop an Australian leaving today, a witness who was to give evidence against the Government position concerning the East Timor agreement? Sheer coincidence was it? Brandis made no reference to that.

Were you at the ASIO meeting ?

Of course not. But, while Brandis can, without public challenge, rabbit on about national interest needing protection as a justification for raiding the law office of the lawyer representing East Timor, it is another thing altogether why they prevented an Australian citizen's right to freely come and go, out and in to the Country.

Habeas Corpus.

So your only guessing ! Wink

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