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Re: Why Labor cannot be trusted with national security
Reply #60 - Jan 11^th, 2025 at 12:19pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 12:05pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 10:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 8:40pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 7:33pm:

It's one thing to employ a Musso to do the rounds AS a Musso amongst the Mussos - it's another to be able to fully trust him/her. When you play that game, the lines can become blurred, and never more so than with a fanatical religion

How many Muslims do you know, Grappler?

Oh, just fuck off with this idiotic b.s, moron.

You don't need to personally know Americans or Chinese to be critical of America or China.
Your moronic 'how many Muslims do you know' tick is indicative of your stupidity, Bbwian, nothing else.

You ARE a mindless moron and spiteful troll, incapable of basic honesty.

You seem to be assuming that Muslims constitute a uniform mass of opinion in most things, Soren. What a foolish thing to believe. Typical of an Islamophobe though who has never discussed anything with Muslims, who'd cross a street rather than walk on the same footpath with a Muslim, hey? When you know some Muslims and you have discussed matters with them, then you can comment. Like Grappler you are talking out of your arse, Soren. Grow up. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

We know Muslims by their Islam-motivated actions.
From gang rapes, terrorism, vandalism, jihad rhetoric, violence, threat of violence, segregation, misogyny, humorless inability to self-reflect, hostility to reason and enlightenment, their treatment of 'infidels' and apostates.

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Re: Why Labor cannot be trusted with national security
Reply #61 - Jan 11^th, 2025 at 12:32pm

Frank wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 12:19pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 12:05pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 10:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 8:40pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 7:33pm:

It's one thing to employ a Musso to do the rounds AS a Musso amongst the Mussos - it's another to be able to fully trust him/her. When you play that game, the lines can become blurred, and never more so than with a fanatical religion

How many Muslims do you know, Grappler?

Oh, just fuck off with this idiotic b.s, moron.

You don't need to personally know Americans or Chinese to be critical of America or China.
Your moronic 'how many Muslims do you know' tick is indicative of your stupidity, Bbwian, nothing else.

You ARE a mindless moron and spiteful troll, incapable of basic honesty.

You seem to be assuming that Muslims constitute a uniform mass of opinion in most things, Soren. What a foolish thing to believe. Typical of an Islamophobe though who has never discussed anything with Muslims, who'd cross a street rather than walk on the same footpath with a Muslim, hey? When you know some Muslims and you have discussed matters with them, then you can comment. Like Grappler you are talking out of your arse, Soren. Grow up. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

We know Muslims by their Islam-motivated actions.
From gang rapes, terrorism, vandalism, jihad rhetoric, violence, threat of violence, segregation, misogyny, humorless inability to self-reflect, hostility to reason and enlightenment, their treatment of 'infidels' and apostates.

We know Australians because of their massacres, their misogyny, vandalism, rapes, threats of violence, drunkenness, hostility to reason and enlightenment, atheism, antisemitism, Soren, etc. We should treat all Australians the same, hey? God, you're a fool, Soren. A gigantic WOFTAM. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Re: Why Labor cannot be trusted with national security
Reply #62 - Jan 11^th, 2025 at 12:38pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 12:32pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 12:19pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 12:05pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 10:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 8:40pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 7:33pm:

It's one thing to employ a Musso to do the rounds AS a Musso amongst the Mussos - it's another to be able to fully trust him/her. When you play that game, the lines can become blurred, and never more so than with a fanatical religion

How many Muslims do you know, Grappler?

Oh, just fuck off with this idiotic b.s, moron.

You don't need to personally know Americans or Chinese to be critical of America or China.
Your moronic 'how many Muslims do you know' tick is indicative of your stupidity, Bbwian, nothing else.

You ARE a mindless moron and spiteful troll, incapable of basic honesty.

You seem to be assuming that Muslims constitute a uniform mass of opinion in most things, Soren. What a foolish thing to believe. Typical of an Islamophobe though who has never discussed anything with Muslims, who'd cross a street rather than walk on the same footpath with a Muslim, hey? When you know some Muslims and you have discussed matters with them, then you can comment. Like Grappler you are talking out of your arse, Soren. Grow up. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

We know Muslims by their Islam-motivated actions.
From gang rapes, terrorism, vandalism, jihad rhetoric, violence, threat of violence, segregation, misogyny, humorless inability to self-reflect, hostility to reason and enlightenment, their treatment of 'infidels' and apostates.

We know Australians because of their massacres, their misogyny, vandalism, rapes, threats of violence, drunkenness, hostility to reason and enlightenment, atheism, antisemitism, Soren, etc. We should treat all Australians the same, hey? God, you're a fool, Soren. A gigantic WOFTAM. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Islam-motivated actions. Look, I highlighted it for you.

Wakey, wakey, duffer. Focus those rheumatic eyes and befogged mind.

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Re: Why Labor cannot be trusted with national security
Reply #64 - Jan 11^th, 2025 at 7:19pm

Because they are tied to some set of myths about global/international unity etc, when nothing could be further from the truth. As a result they choose all the wrong sides to support while betraying their traditional friends and allies, just so they can posture and pretend to be all-caring and all-understanding and omnipotent.

Nobody believes it.

Got Mussos up the road... they are good Mussos.... but let's be honest - do you REALLY, really, really trust that Musso to work for ASIO and not be compromised in any way? Not need to be closely watched at all times?

How many times do I have to tell you - EVERY traitor of the greatest sort was a fully trusted insider.... Every Single One!

Donny Brasco - how close did he become to BEING what he was pursuing? Frank Serpico? Cruising?

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Re: Why Labor cannot be trusted with national security
Reply #65 - Yesterday at 8:52pm

The Albanese government has emerged as an unmitigated failure, if not outright disaster, in foreign affairs, defence and national security. It’s one of the worst governments we’ve had.

The Australian military is weaker and feebler than when Labor took office. Anthony Albanese and Defence Minister Richard Marles talk big about the future but deliver nothing. Australia’s regional standing has declined sharply. Once we were seen as a powerful country getting stronger; now we’re seen as weak, confused, living off past riches.

Australia has little influence in the Middle East. But the Albanese government, led by Foreign Minister Penny Wong, has failed to identify principles or national interest, so policy is incoherent and ineffective. It has alienated our oldest regional friend, Israel, and joined the opposition to the US at the UN.

The government provides no rationale or narrative for its disconnected actions. Everything is spin, frequently designed to appease Greens voters and the Labor Left. As a result of the government’s moral confusion and lack of political leadership, Australia is gripped by an anti-Semitism crisis the likes of which we’ve never seen before. The government is not remotely anti-Semitic. Its failure in leadership has allowed anti-Semitism to flourish.

For the first time since the Vietnam War, foreign policy is bitterly dividing the community, this time along sectarian, religious and ethnic lines.
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The Albanese government is not the worst since World War II. You can’t take the title from the Whitlam government. It nearly destroyed the US alliance. The US, Britain and Canada all cut off intelligence sharing with Australia for a time under Gough Whitlam. Whitlam had a shocking and ugly prejudice against Vietnamese refugees, famously telling his cabinet ministers: “I’m not having those f..king Vietnamese Balts coming into this country with their religious and political prejudices against us.” Whitlam, for no benefit, extended de jure recognition of Soviet sovereignty over the Baltic states. Whitlam was regarded as a fool regionally. Lee Kuan Yew is devastating in his treatment of Whitlam in his memoirs, describing him as an arrogant sham. And Whitlam ended his time in office by commissioning Bill Hartley to seek secret electoral funding for the ALP from Saddam Hussein’s Baath Socialist Party in Iraq.

Albanese is not as bad as that. Lest you feel these harsh judgments of mine are excessive, consider the following testimonials. Bilahari Kausikan, former head of the Singapore Foreign Ministry, wrote in Foreign Affairs recently: “Today, the three most important US allies (in Asia) – Australia, Japan and South Korea – all have weak leaders.”

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/albanese-government-is-one-of-the-wo...

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Re: Why Labor cannot be trusted with national security
Reply #66 - Today at 5:57am

No party extant in this once proud nation can be trusted with the basics of national security, while ever they persist in creating of this once proud nation a Double Banana Republic - wherein firstly all it does is export resources (including 'education' etc in the modern vernacular of our alleged intellectual supremacy, though we then import doctors and such from the True Third World - you work that one out) - and then, rather than establishing for our own once proud nation independence and thus 'neutrality' in terms of having resources such as gas, petroleum, ores of various kinds available for production of finished goods (value adding) - we import back 'value added finished goods'...

- wherein secondly we destroy, in the pursuit by our 'governments elect and appoint', our own capacity to self feed our own people in terms of jobs and all the way down the chain to basic agriculture, thus creating the situation where we import our fruit etc from distant foreign lands after it's spent six months in a leaky boat etc, while our fruit growers etc increasingly plough their crops under, our wheat and meat farmers sell their produce into some 'global market' and we buy back the finished products or the dregs at inflated prices, and jobs become increasingly scarcer in a 'booming' economy in a 'prosperous' nation ....and we thus IMPORT increasingly every last single thing needed for national survival -apart from - say our natural water resources - already and historically 'scarce' and subject to the vagaries of weather etc which are sold off to the highest bidder who uses them to feed a separate national economy etc....

How could anyone trust any government apparatus - both elected and appointed - that deliberately reduces its own people to Double Third World Status (Sixth World) status and then enforces growing division and discontent and disadvantage pushed on them generationally (see dividie's limited non-reasoning)?

We have the resources here... we have the personpower languishing on the beach in Tent Cities enjoying their enforced impoverished new leisure time due to fabulous economic results over the past half century or more, developing a generational viewpoint of grasping poverty instead of family prosperity, while the parasites buy and rent houses, and home ownership and every social issue that goes with it (family stability, consequent prosperity of family unit leading to national prosperity more evenly shared etc) declines as a result while the adverse social conditions rise and rise .............. WTF is wrong with this once great country?

Its 'leadership'!!! Worship that? NEVER!

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