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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: Local moslems vandalise a church in Germany Reply #45 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 10:29am I just skip his posts, hes like one of those loonies that walk around on the street constantly babbling to themselves in gibberish.
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Re: Local moslems vandalise a church in Germany
Reply #46 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 11:43am

Yadda wrote on Dec 9^th, 2013 at 7:43pm:

In fact it is entirely presumptuous of us to suppose that this vandalism was committed by a moslem!

A bit, perhaps.

What would prevent an atheist/Buddhist/Scientologist/Christian from doing this in order to stir up some hate against the Muslims?

Do you have a link to the actual news story?

When did this happen?

Was anyone charged?

A few more details would be nice.

Well ... ?

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Reply #47 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 6:00pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 11:43am:

Yadda wrote on Dec 9^th, 2013 at 7:43pm:

In fact it is entirely presumptuous of us to suppose that this vandalism was committed by a moslem!

A bit, perhaps.

What would prevent an atheist/Buddhist/Scientologist/Christian from doing this in order to stir up some hate against the Muslims?

Do you have a link to the actual news story?

When did this happen?

Was anyone charged?

A few more details would be nice.

Well ... ?

greggerypeccary,

To what end ?

If anyone was apprehended [moslem or non-moslem], they would likely get a $100 fine. Angry

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greggerypeccary,

In contrast; We KNOW who these persons are.....

IMAGE...

Sydney CBD, 2012, members of the moslem DEATH CULT,
demanding the right to exercise their 'religious freedom'.
Members of the moslem DEATH CULT, demanding the right to 'practise their religion'.
Members of the moslem DEATH CULT, proclaiming their 'religious' right to murder persons [who are not moslems], because they 'offend' and 'insult' moslems, by refusing to believe as they [moslems] believe.

greggerypeccary,

Forget about criminal acts in Germany.

Why aren't those [Sydney] moslems languishing in an Australian goal, for 20-30 years !!!!

For inciting moslems to murder those persons who do not believe what moslems believe ???????

Alternatively, what is wrong with bringing back public hanging, for such human filth sewage ?

ISLAMIC LAW....
"Ibn 'Umar related that the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, said, "I have been ordered to kill the people until they testify that there is no god except Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay the zakah. If they do that, their blood and wealth are protected from me save by the rights of Islam. Their reckoning will be with Allah." (Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) "
fiqhussunnah/fus1_06 Volume 1, Page 77b: One Who Ignores His Prayersin.b.
My calling for public hangings [for persons committing capital crimes] is not me, 'inciting' anything.

I want the laws on sedition and treason stiffened & enforced.

I want to see 'heads on pikes' for such crimes!

Just a personal opinion.

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Re: Local moslems vandalise a church in Germany
Reply #48 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 7:17pm

Crying out loud Yadda. You have been shown previously that the actions in the Sydney CBD were condemned by many MANY times more Muslims than those who took part in them.

Stop using points that are factually misleading.

You Christians are supposed to be against such things anyway. And while you condone Biblical genocide as it occurs in the old testament, you have no right whatsoever to call Islam a death cult. not while you continually refuse to condemn your own religions genocides.

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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 11:24pm:

Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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Reply #49 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 9:05pm

Stratos wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 7:17pm:

Crying out loud Yadda. You have been shown previously that the actions in the Sydney CBD were condemned by many MANY times more Muslims than those who took part in them.

Stratos,

Unlike yourself, ...when moslems tell me [what are obviously] lies, i don't believe them.

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Stop using points that are factually misleading.

You are talking nonsensical rubbish.

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You Christians are supposed to be against such things anyway. And while you condone Biblical genocide as it occurs in the old testament, you have no right whatsoever to call Islam a death cult. not while you continually refuse to condemn your own religions genocides.

You are talking nonsensical rubbish.

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Reply #50 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 10:01pm

Thanks for replying sans font colour changes and massive quotes yadda. It really does help.

The following articles are about the riots, and the reaction of the Muslim community around them.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/muslims-inundated-with-messages-of-hate-20120918-263gj...
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-09-16/islamic-groups-condemn-violent-sydney-prot...
http://www.afr.com/p/national/muslim_leaders_condemn_violent_protests_UkritXfm5B...

All news reprts showing that the riots were condened by a lot of Muslim groups. I can find more if you would like.
Yadda wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 9:05pm:

You are talking nonsensical rubbish.

You continuously link to a photo about an event, and say:

Yadda wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 6:00pm:

Sydney CBD, 2012, members of the moslem DEATH CULT,
demanding the right to exercise their 'religious freedom'.
Members of the moslem DEATH CULT, demanding the right to 'practise their religion'.
Members of the moslem DEATH CULT, proclaiming their 'religious' right to murder persons [who are not moslems], because they 'offend' and 'insult' moslems, by refusing to believe as they [moslems] believe.

After you have repeatedly been shown that the vast majority of Muslims condemn such behavior, with overwhelming evidence supporting this. You are being intentionally misleading.

Oh, and you still refuse to condemn the genocide as it occurs in the Old Testament, yet continually bash Muslims for not condemning these kind of things (when they clearly do). That is clear hypocrisy. You seem to know your Bible quite well, so I do hope you aren't forgetting the words of big J when he said

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You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.

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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 11:24pm:

Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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Reply #51 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 10:55pm

Stratos wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 10:01pm:

Thanks for replying sans font colour changes and massive quotes yadda. It really does help.

The following articles are about the riots, and the reaction of the Muslim community around them.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/muslims-inundated-with-messages-of-hate-20120918-263gj...
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-09-16/islamic-groups-condemn-violent-sydney-prot...
http://www.afr.com/p/national/muslim_leaders_condemn_violent_protests_UkritXfm5B...

All news reprts showing that the riots were condened by a lot of Muslim groups. I can find more if you would like.
Yadda wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 9:05pm:

You are talking nonsensical rubbish.

You continuously link to a photo about an event, and say:

Yadda wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 6:00pm:

Sydney CBD, 2012, members of the moslem DEATH CULT,
demanding the right to exercise their 'religious freedom'.
Members of the moslem DEATH CULT, demanding the right to 'practise their religion'.
Members of the moslem DEATH CULT, proclaiming their 'religious' right to murder persons [who are not moslems], because they 'offend' and 'insult' moslems, by refusing to believe as they [moslems] believe.

After you have repeatedly been shown that the vast majority of Muslims condemn such behavior, with overwhelming evidence supporting this. You are being intentionally misleading.

I believe such condemnations to be false declarations.

As per the declarations of the lying deceitful, Feiz Mohammed.

THIS LYING MOSLEM SPEAKS TO A *MOSLEM* AUDIENCE
Quote:

Use children as troops, says cleric [Sheik Feiz Mohammed]
January 18, 2007
..."We want to have children and offer them as soldiers...Teach them this: There is nothing more beloved to me than wanting to die as a mujahid (holy warrior). Put in their soft, tender hearts the zeal of jihad and a love of martyrdom."
......"The peak, the pinnacle, the crest, the highest point, the pivot, the summit of Islam is jihad," he declares in the film, before denouncing "kaffirs" (non-Muslims).
"Kaffir is the worst word ever written, a sign of infidelity, disbelief, filth, a sign of dirt."

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=94224
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014863.php

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THE EXACT SAME MOSLEM LATER SPEAKS TO A NON-MOSLEM AUDIENCE - WHO HAVE BECOME AWARE OF HIS PREVIOUS STATEMENTS
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Fiery Australian cleric claims jihad remarks were misunderstood

"The jihad I speak of is not one of violence,"...
"I don't believe in suicide bombing. I don't believe in violence against others," he said. "We denounce that. This is not Islamic law and it is not moral."

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2007/01/fiery-australian-cleric-claims-jihad-remarks-w...

Stratos,

And you are sanctioning this moslem deceit.

Because i have made you aware of it previously.

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Oh, and you still refuse to condemn the genocide as it occurs in the Old Testament, yet continually bash Muslims for not condemning these kind of things (when they clearly do). That is clear hypocrisy.

Stratos,

And why did God hate the; Hittites, Girgashites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites,
.......do you think ???

I cannot deny it.

My God sanctioned the killing of the people of nations practising the slaughter and 'barbecuing' of their own infant children.

My God, sanctioned the killing of wrongdoers - oppressors, murderers, criminals.

Boo hoo!

But the God of Israel, forbade the Hebrews [Israel] from killing [or oppressing] people because those people do not worship, or do not believe in [or do not know] him.

Stratos,

It is all there, in the Bible.

Exodus 12:49
One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.

Exodus 22:21
Thou shalt neither vex a stranger, nor oppress him...

Exodus 23:9
Also thou shalt not oppress a stranger...

Leviticus 19:33
And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him.
34 But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself...

n.b.
.....and thou shalt love him as thyself

Leviticus 25:47-49
[these verses clearly speak of [and reveal that it was entirely 'lawful'] for Hebrews [themselves] to become bond servants [slaves], to prosperous strangers living among the Hebrews.]

Deuteronomy 1:16
And I charged your judges at that time, saying, Hear the causes between your brethren, and judge righteously between every man and his brother, and the stranger that is with him.

Deuteronomy 10:17-19
For the LORD your God... loveth the stranger, ...Love ye therefore the stranger:
for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.

Deuteronomy 24:17
Thou shalt not pervert the judgment of the stranger, nor of the fatherless; nor take a widow's raiment to pledge:
18 But thou shalt remember that thou wast a bondman in Egypt, and the LORD thy God redeemed thee thence: therefore I command thee to do this thing.

Deuteronomy 27:19
Cursed be he that perverteth the judgment of the stranger...

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Reply #52 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 11:10pm

Stratos,

Why won't you condemn moslems for their obvious lying and deceit ?

FURTHER EXAMPLES OF MOSLEM DECEIT AND LYING;

DECEIT EXAMPLE #1,
GOOD MOSLEM SPEAKS TO NON-MOSLEM AUDIENCE
A UK moslem *community leader*, speaking in the wake of the London 7/7 bombing;

"We condemn the killing of all innocent civilians."

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article552594.ece

#1,
THE KICKER...
"...Later when he addressed his own followers he explained that he had in fact been referring only to Muslims as only they were innocent: "Yes I condemn killing any innocent people, but not any kuffar." "iDECEIT EXAMPLE #2,
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Live in peace till strong enough to wage jihad, says UK Deoband scholar to Muslims
London, Sept.8 [2007]
A Deobandi scholar believes Muslims should preach peace till they are strong enough to undertake a jihad, or a holy war.
Justice Muhammad Taqi Usmani was quoted by the BBC as saying that Muslims should live peacefully in countries such as Britain, where they have the freedom to practise Islam, only until they gain enough power to engage in battle.
A former Sharia judge in Pakistan's Supreme Court, 64-year-old Usmani, is...a regular visitor to Britain.
Polite and softly spoken....
He agreed that it was wrong to suggest that the entire non-Muslim world was intent on destroying Islam, but justifies an aggressive military jihad as a means of establishing global Islamic supremacy.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article2409833.ece

DECEIT EXAMPLE #3,
Quote:

A body representing British 'mainstream' moslems, The Muslim Council of Britain, declares on its website, that ISLAM is a philosophy which condemns extremism and violence....

Quote:

Rejecting Terror
Thursday, 11 April 2013

Muslims everywhere consider all acts of terrorism that aims to murder and maim innocent human beings utterly reprehensible and abhorrent. There is no theological basis whatsoever for such acts in our faith. The very meaning of the word 'Islam' is peace. It rejects terror and promotes peace and harmony.

http://www.mcb.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2307:mcbnewst...
http://www.mcb.org.uk/article_detail.php?article=announcement-656

BUT THERE IS AMPLE COUNTER EVIDENCE

- WHICH DEMOLISHES THE CREDIBILITY OF THE CLAIMS, OF [moslems of] THE REJECTION OF EXTREMISM AND INTOLERANCE, IN ISLAM;

ISLAMIC law....

"Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Prophet said: "The bare essence of Islam and the basics of the religion are three [acts], upon which Islam has been established. Whoever leaves one of them becomes an unbeliever and his blood may legally be spilled. [The acts are:] Testifying that there is no God except Allah, the obligatory prayers, and the fast of Ramadan."...."
fiqhussunnah/#3.110

n.b.
"Whoever......becomes an unbeliever.....his blood may legally be spilled."

FROM THE SUNNA OF MOHAMMED

"...If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him."

hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29

BUT NONE OF THESE EXAMPLES ARE GOOD ENOUGH TO CONVINCE STRATOS [AND OTHERS LIKE HIM], THAT MOSLEM COMMUNITIES ARE CONDUCTING A CAMPAIGN OF LIES AND DECEIT AGAINST NON-MOSLEMS.

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Re: Local moslems vandalise a church in Germany
Reply #53 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 11:22pm

and we're back to crayon drawings.

I never condone extremism, and never will. I challenge you to find me one time when I have.
While you on the other hand are willing to support genocide. Apparently you think that's OK because the cultures were evil. Were the infants? because God instructed the Israelites to kill them too. Somehow in your mind that makes it OK

Oh and good, I see you have clearly ignored the relevant information about the Sydney 2012 riots and the multitude of Muslim leaders who condemned them and replaced them with something from a completely different country. This is called "moving the goalposts" Yadda, and only seeks to muddy the waters further.

Yadda wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 10:55pm:

And you are sanctioning this moslem deceit.

No I'm not. Find me one post where I defend Muslims deceiving people.

Please Yadda, reply with something you wrote, not something copy pasted from a million previous things, and lay off the crayons.

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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 11:24pm:

Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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Reply #54 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 11:46pm

Stratos wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 11:22pm:

and we're back to crayon drawings.

I never condone extremism, and never will. I challenge you to find me one time when I have.
While you on the other hand are willing to support genocide. Apparently you think that's OK because the cultures were evil. Were the infants? because God instructed the Israelites to kill them too. Somehow in your mind that makes it OK

Stratos,

How many American servicemen's lives were spared, because Japan surrendered at the conclusion of WWII ?

Because American servicemen didn't have to fight Japan to a conventional warfare surrender, at the conclusion of WWII ?

Were all of the innocent Japanese infants who died, worth the lives of the American servicemen who did not die ?

No ?

Well, go and argue that with God.

Or with the wives and children, of those American servicemen.

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Oh and good, I see you have clearly ignored the relevant information about the Sydney 2012 riots and the multitude of Muslim leaders who condemned them and replaced them with something from a completely different country. This is called "moving the goalposts" Yadda, and only seeks to muddy the waters further.

ISLAM is one nation.

Moslems know that.

You pretend, that you do not.

Stratos,

You are either ignorant, or deceitful.

Just like your moslem 'friends'.

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Yadda wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 10:55pm:

And you are sanctioning this moslem deceit.

No I'm not. Find me one post where I defend Muslims deceiving people.

Stratos,

You did exactly that, here....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1386582212/48#48
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Crying out loud Yadda. You have been shown previously that the actions in the Sydney CBD were condemned by many MANY times more Muslims than those who took part in them.

You are
1/ defending moslems, who are
2/ deceiving people.

[And, you will deny it. Because there is no truth in you.]

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Re: Local moslems vandalise a church in Germany
Reply #55 - Dec 27^th, 2013 at 12:02am

Yadda wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 11:46pm:

You are
1/ defending moslems, who are
2/ deceiving people.

I will conceded that point if you can prove they are lying. But you can't can you?

Yadda wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 11:46pm:

Were all of the innocent Japanese infants who died, worth the lives of the American servicemen who did not die ?

Still defending the wholesale slaughter of innocent infants i see you hypocrite. That is exactly why you said God ordered the Israelistes to kill the other nations in your previous post here

Yadda wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 10:55pm:

My God sanctioned the killing of the people of nations practising the slaughter and 'barbecuing' of their own infant children.

So apparently nuking and slaughtering kids is A-OK as long as it's from the side you support. I'm sure your Lord and Savior would have some words to say about your blatant hypocrisy.

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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 11:24pm:

Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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Reply #56 - Dec 27^th, 2013 at 6:16am

Stratos wrote on Dec 27^th, 2013 at 12:02am:

Yadda wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 11:46pm:

You are
1/ defending moslems, who are
2/ deceiving people.

I will conceded that point if you can prove they are lying. But you can't can you?

Yadda wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 11:46pm:

Were all of the innocent Japanese infants who died, worth the lives of the American servicemen who did not die ?

Still defending the wholesale slaughter of innocent infants i see you hypocrite. That is exactly why you said God ordered the Israelistes to kill the other nations in your previous post here

Yadda wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 10:55pm:

My God sanctioned the killing of the people of nations practising the slaughter and 'barbecuing' of their own infant children.

So apparently nuking and slaughtering kids is A-OK as long as it's from the side you support. I'm sure your Lord and Savior would have some words to say about your blatant hypocrisy.

We should not seek to destroy what is wicked
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1388087903/0#0

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Reply #59 - Jan 2^nd, 2014 at 9:17am

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2014 at 8:49am:

Stratos wrote on Dec 27^th, 2013 at 12:02am:

I will conceded that point if you can prove they are lying. But you can't can you?

Stratos, for the upteenth time you need to

google taqiyya: the muslim doctrine of deceit.

Please don't make poor Yadda have to point this out to you again

gandalf,

I am a child.

I cannot tell, are you,
1/ coming to the truth,
or,
2/ are you just mocking the truth ?i

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Stratos,

Why won't you condemn moslems for their obvious lying and deceit ?

FURTHER EXAMPLES OF MOSLEM DECEIT AND LYING;

DECEIT EXAMPLE #1,
GOOD MOSLEM SPEAKS TO NON-MOSLEM AUDIENCE
A UK moslem *community leader*, speaking in the wake of the London 7/7 bombing;

"We condemn the killing of all innocent civilians."

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article552594.ece

#1,
THE KICKER...
"...Later when he addressed his own followers he explained that he had in fact been referring only to Muslims as only they were innocent: "Yes I condemn killing any innocent people, but not any kuffar." "iDECEIT EXAMPLE #2,
Quote:

Live in peace till strong enough to wage jihad, says UK Deoband scholar to Muslims
London, Sept.8 [2007]
A Deobandi scholar believes Muslims should preach peace till they are strong enough to undertake a jihad, or a holy war.
Justice Muhammad Taqi Usmani was quoted by the BBC as saying that Muslims should live peacefully in countries such as Britain, where they have the freedom to practise Islam, only until they gain enough power to engage in battle.
A former Sharia judge in Pakistan's Supreme Court, 64-year-old Usmani, is...a regular visitor to Britain.
Polite and softly spoken....
He agreed that it was wrong to suggest that the entire non-Muslim world was intent on destroying Islam, but justifies an aggressive military jihad as a means of establishing global Islamic supremacy.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article2409833.ece

Stratos,

I'm still waiting for your response;

Why won't you ACKNOWLEDGE the obvious lying and deceit of moslems, in their communication with non-moslems, about the nature of ISLAM [....and their own intent, towards those who are not moslems] ?

And why won't you condemn moslems for their obvious lying and deceit ?

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