Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 11
th, 2013 at 10:28pm:
Quantum wrote on Dec 11
th, 2013 at 8:57pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 11
th, 2013 at 8:13pm:
red baron wrote on Dec 11
th, 2013 at 6:29pm:
You've got 21,500 in your pocket and you want to buy a medium sized car.
Would you rather have a Holden Cruze for 20.363 or a Honda Civic for 21.500?
It's like comparing a turd with a pedigree horse.
For the extra grand you can have it all with the Honda or you can buy the Cruze then get ready for all the shite that comes once they get past three years old.
No wonder Holden have gone down the chute.
Incidentally my 5 year old Honda has 150K on the clock and is going like it is brand new.
Honda can be a PIA as well when it comes to reliability and the cost of parts. I know someone who bought a new Honda CRV Sports SUV which developed a fault with the transmission. The dealer kept putting her off until after the warranty period expired and then she was up for a new automatic transmission at her own cost. It turns out that this is a common fault with that particular model
The whole auto industry is setup to make money from service and parts that's why it is no skin off Holdens nose if it no longer makes cars here. I am continuously amazed at how much shlt you continue to post after having been set straight.
Car companies make almost nothing from parts or servicing. The real money comes from selling cars. What good is it to Holden if you take their car to a private mechanic or use any of the many mechanical companies out there (ultratune, lubemobile, etc) which is what most people do? Even if you take it to the dealer the dealer is privately owned. Very little if any goes back to the head company, and warranty repairs bring them nothing but a loss. As for parts, with aftermarket suppliers as well as used parts from wreckers, how many parts do you really think Holden sell? The parts that need changing (brakes, shocks, lights, etc) are all made and can be bought from other companies, so except for crash damage there is not a big market for parts that in anyway compares to the actual selling of the cars.
Stop posting such obvious and illogical BS. Nothing you say makes any sense.
you are f.cking idiot if you don't believe car companies make at least 40% of revenue from parts and maintenance. Just price the cost of all of the parts used in a car as spare part items and then see how much the car would cost to make ?
They make a fortune on spare parts and maintenance. Just see all of the dickheads waiting to pickup their cars from service departments everyday at your nearest dealer. Fossil fool cars are inherently unreliable and there is a fortune to be made from the sale of disposable items with built in obsolescence. A bit of oil not worth more than 20 bucks and a 9 dollar oil filter and Mazda charges $280 for the privilege
And dealers don't care about any competition from backyarders because most people who buy new cars stay with the dealer in case of any warranty claims.
Is it little wonder they are not interested in building electric cars with little or no maintenance and parts to replace.
Do your research instead of pretending that you know everything. I found this out years ago when I did research into electric cars. It was one of the main reasons why car companies don't want to produce a reliable product that requires no maintenance and or parts that wear out.
It is amazing how you can have something explained to you after you made a stupid comment, only for you to reply with even more BS than the initial statement that was corrected.
*A warranty is valid no matter where it is serviced.
*Most of the money for the service goes to the dealership, not the manufacturer. They are not the same thing.
*90% of an electric car is the same as an oil burning car. The 10% difference is the engine and transmission, and if you haven't noticed, on modern day cars that is the last part to wear out. Everything that gets serviced on a normal car (except for the engine) will need to get serviced on an EV. You are living in a dream world.
Quote:Do your research instead of pretending that you know everything. I found this out years ago when I did research into electric cars. It was one of the main reasons why car companies don't want to produce a reliable product that requires no maintenance and or parts that wear out.
This is one of the stupidest comments you have ever made. This is really good shlt. Your trying to claim that you have done the reaserch, yet you want us to believe that (for example) a Nissan Leaf never needs maintenance or servicing? That it never wears out? How the hell can you even try to post such crap and expect to be taken seriously?
Quote:you are f.cking idiot if you don't believe car companies make at least 40% of revenue from parts and maintenance
I thought the last comment was really stupid, but wow... At least 40% you say? You really have no idea do you. This is proof that you have no understanding of the auto world are just making crap up.
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