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Re: Australia Grows More "Asian"
Reply #135 - Dec 20th, 2013 at 9:43pm
 
|dev|null wrote on Dec 20th, 2013 at 3:44pm:
  The Stolen Generations was an attempt at genocide.  The intention was the obliteration of the Aborigines.






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Reply #136 - Dec 20th, 2013 at 9:45pm
 
Sparky wrote on Dec 20th, 2013 at 11:02am:
Most sceience is new. That's why the concept of race came about in that time span. Race is just a categorization for the 3 distinct groups of humans. These are caucasian, negro and asian. It don't know why you are having a conniption fit about it. All humans can breed together so the differences aren't great. I never said it was. But their are genetic differences that dictate physicality and brain function caused by geographic , climate, diet etc.

I have to laugh, Asian is a race? Its a geographical categorisation used for convenience  Einstein. Lol. What complete nonsense, look at the difference between an Indian and a Chinese person, do you see any similarities? Please don't mention science any more, you cant even spell it let alone know anything about it. What a maroon , Lol. Grin
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Reply #137 - Dec 20th, 2013 at 9:48pm
 
Soren wrote on Dec 20th, 2013 at 9:43pm:
|dev|null wrote on Dec 20th, 2013 at 3:44pm:
  The Stolen Generations was an attempt at genocide.  The intention was the obliteration of the Aborigines.






You ARE a fvkn looney!!!'

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Reply #138 - Dec 20th, 2013 at 9:49pm
 
ian wrote on Dec 20th, 2013 at 9:45pm:
Sparky wrote on Dec 20th, 2013 at 11:02am:
Most sceience is new. That's why the concept of race came about in that time span. Race is just a categorization for the 3 distinct groups of humans. These are caucasian, negro and asian. It don't know why you are having a conniption fit about it. All humans can breed together so the differences aren't great. I never said it was. But their are genetic differences that dictate physicality and brain function caused by geographic , climate, diet etc.

I have to laugh, Asian is a race? Its a geographical categorisation used for convenience  Einstein. Lol. What complete nonsense, look at the difference between an Indian and a Chinese person, do you see any similarities? Please don't mention science any more, you cant even spell it let alone know anything about it. What a maroon , Lol. Grin
Put your head in a oven and blow your head of Ian. You are a complete moron who mucks decent argument. Now bugger off.
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Reply #139 - Dec 20th, 2013 at 9:58pm
 
ian wrote on Dec 20th, 2013 at 9:45pm:
Sparky wrote on Dec 20th, 2013 at 11:02am:
Most sceience is new. That's why the concept of race came about in that time span. Race is just a categorization for the 3 distinct groups of humans. These are caucasian, negro and asian. It don't know why you are having a conniption fit about it. All humans can breed together so the differences aren't great. I never said it was. But their are genetic differences that dictate physicality and brain function caused by geographic , climate, diet etc.

I have to laugh, Asian is a race? Its a geographical categorisation used for convenience  Einstein. Lol. What complete nonsense, look at the difference between an Indian and a Chinese person, do you see any similarities? Please don't mention science any more, you cant even spell it let alone know anything about it. What a maroon , Lol. Grin

The races as defined  are primarily; Caucasoid, Mongoloid, and Negroid... (and Australoid)
Only an idiot refutes their existence as such...

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Mongoloid /ˈmɒŋ.ɡə.lɔɪd/ refers to populations that share certain phenotypic traits such as epicanthic fold and other physical traits common in most of Asia (including Central Asia, South East Asia, East Asia, etc.), the Arctic, the Americas and most of the Pacific Islands. In terms of population, they are the most dominant race – more than one third of the human race.


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Race is a classification system used to categorize humans into large and distinct populations or groups by anatomical, cultural, ethnic, genetic, geographical, historical, linguistic, religious, and/or social affiliation. First used to refer to speakers of a common language and then to denote national affiliations, in the 17th century, people began to use the term to relate to observable physical traits. Such use promoted hierarchies favorable to differing ethnic groups. Starting from the 19th century, the term was often used, in a taxonomic sense, to denote genetically differentiated human populations defined by phenotype.

Race....  it exists....  no use denying it  Cheesy
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Reply #140 - Dec 20th, 2013 at 10:13pm
 
Soren wrote on Dec 20th, 2013 at 9:43pm:
|dev|null wrote on Dec 20th, 2013 at 3:44pm:
  The Stolen Generations was an attempt at genocide.  The intention was the obliteration of the Aborigines.



You ARE a fvkn looney!!!'


*SIGH* someone else who denies the historical record...  Roll Eyes
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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #141 - Dec 20th, 2013 at 10:22pm
 
Grendel wrote on Dec 20th, 2013 at 9:58pm:
ian wrote on Dec 20th, 2013 at 9:45pm:
Sparky wrote on Dec 20th, 2013 at 11:02am:
Most sceience is new. That's why the concept of race came about in that time span. Race is just a categorization for the 3 distinct groups of humans. These are caucasian, negro and asian. It don't know why you are having a conniption fit about it. All humans can breed together so the differences aren't great. I never said it was. But their are genetic differences that dictate physicality and brain function caused by geographic , climate, diet etc.

I have to laugh, Asian is a race? Its a geographical categorisation used for convenience  Einstein. Lol. What complete nonsense, look at the difference between an Indian and a Chinese person, do you see any similarities? Please don't mention science any more, you cant even spell it let alone know anything about it. What a maroon , Lol. Grin

The races as defined  are primarily; Caucasoid, Mongoloid, and Negroid... (and Australoid)
Only an idiot refutes their existence as such...

EG;

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Mongoloid /ˈmɒŋ.ɡə.lɔɪd/ refers to populations that share certain phenotypic traits such as epicanthic fold and other physical traits common in most of Asia (including Central Asia, South East Asia, East Asia, etc.), the Arctic, the Americas and most of the Pacific Islands. In terms of population, they are the most dominant race – more than one third of the human race.


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Race is a classification system used to categorize humans into large and distinct populations or groups by anatomical, cultural, ethnic, genetic, geographical, historical, linguistic, religious, and/or social affiliation. First used to refer to speakers of a common language and then to denote national affiliations, in the 17th century, people began to use the term to relate to observable physical traits. Such use promoted hierarchies favorable to differing ethnic groups. Starting from the 19th century, the term was often used, in a taxonomic sense, to denote genetically differentiated human populations defined by phenotype.

Race....  it exists....  no use denying it  Cheesy


How interesting that you did not either credit nor continue the quote, Beowulf.  Cherry picking?  How unusual.  Let us see what the next two paragraphs from your Wikipedia quote states

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Social conceptions and groupings of races vary over time, involving folk taxonomies [4] that define essential types of individuals based on perceived traits. Scientists consider biological essentialism obsolete,[5] and generally discourage racial explanations for collective differentiation in both physical and behavioral traits.[6][7][8][9][10]

Even though there is a broad scientific agreement that essentialist conceptualizations of race are untenable, scientists continue to conceptualize race in widely differing ways, some of which have essentialist implications. Views of race that see racial groups as defined genetically are still common in the biological sciences although controversial, whereas the social constructionist view is dominant in the social sciences.


So, it admits that "race" as a concept is indeed a social construct.  So no matter how much you moan, your very own source defeats what you're attempting to claim, Beowful.  How unusual.

As a social construct, Beowulf.  "Race" is, as your own quote notes, based upon many factors BUT not primarily on scientific genetic differences.  Yet many racists will act as if their belief in the concept is.   Genetically, there are no substantial differences between the "races".  Therefore, to act as if there is, is nonsensical.   As HB suggested, assuming the supposed superiority or inferiority of an individual on the basis of, "anatomical, cultural, ethnic, genetic, geographical, historical, linguistic, religious, and/or social affiliation" is basically stupid.  Are you that stupid?  Sometimes it appears so from the attitudes and prejudices that you display here and elsewhere, Beowulf.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #142 - Dec 20th, 2013 at 10:25pm
 
Sparky wrote on Dec 20th, 2013 at 9:49pm:
Put your head in a oven and blow your head of Ian. You are a complete moron who mucks decent argument. Now bugger off.

Asian is a race, ROFL. What a howler!
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Reply #143 - Dec 20th, 2013 at 10:27pm
 
Sparky wrote on Dec 17th, 2013 at 12:13pm:
|dev|null wrote on Dec 17th, 2013 at 10:35am:
Or are you talking about something like racism?   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
The world is racist. If Asian people have the numbers in Australia things will change to suit them. Maybe Australia will go down the drain as a result.


So, to justify your racism you claim the whole world is racist?

So, merely because some Australians have different shaped eyes or different coloured skin or eat different food or worship different gods, this justifies your intolerance and prejudice against them?   Roll Eyes
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Reply #144 - Dec 20th, 2013 at 10:30pm
 
Im on record as not being a fan of some cultures, however to judge someone on their appearance is beyond stupidity.
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Reply #145 - Dec 20th, 2013 at 10:42pm
 
Just posted the required info bwian...  no cherry picking involved, I leave that sort of crap to you.

Race isn't a social construct... that is a LW Prog fantasy.
The sky is blue is not a social construct either.

I don't quote parts of Wiki that are incorrect bwian, unlike yourself, nor an I a lying hypocrite ...  how many times have you scoffed at Wikipedia as a source?  Grin Grin Grin
Now who's cherry picking?  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Don't try preaching to me on this subject you are waaaay out of your depth and out matched.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #146 - Dec 20th, 2013 at 10:58pm
 
Grendel wrote on Dec 20th, 2013 at 10:42pm:
Just posted the required info bwian...  no cherry picking involved, I leave that sort of crap to you.


So why didn't you post the other paragraphs?  Hoping that we'd all take you at your word when you didn't provide a reference to check it?   Roll Eyes

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Race isn't a social construct... that is a LW Prog fantasy.


Mmmm, what didn't you understand about, "Social conceptions and groupings of races vary over time, involving folk taxonomies [4] that define essential types of individuals based on perceived traits. Scientists consider biological essentialism obsolete"?

"Scientists consider biological essentialism obsolete".  Obvious it is not a "LW Prog fantasy", now is it, Beowulf?   It is scientific fact that the traditional views about the issue of "race" being meaningful are obsolete.

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The sky is blue is not a social construct either.

I don't quote parts of Wiki that are incorrect bwian, unlike yourself, nor an I a lying hypocrite ...  how many times have you scoffed at Wikipedia as a source?  Grin Grin Grin

Now who's cherry picking?  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


I am merely using your own source against you, Beowulf.  Are you claiming those paragraphs are incorrect?  Perhaps you'd care to provide some proof that refutes them?  Or is your mere opinion sufficient.

Looks to me like you've been hoist by your own petard, Beowulf.   Roll Eyes

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Don't try preaching to me on this subject you are waaaay out of your depth and out matched.  Roll Eyes


Unlike you, I don't make nonsense claims which my own sources refute, Beowulf.   As we can see, you're out of your depth in an intellectual puddle.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #147 - Dec 21st, 2013 at 8:38am
 
Oh dear...  you do post such presumptuous rot...  all the time.

I'd expect any knowledgeable adult wouldn't need me to tell them basics or provide links.
But then after years of having to do it for them I have a habit of obliging.

Race is clearly and always has been clearly a reality...  not a social construct.

Genetically it may not be considered by some as some hugely quantifiable thing, but none the less it exists.  Apparently Chimps have 98% of our DNA, yet I wouldn't consider them human...  would you?
I've already provided a defn for race therefore it exists bwian.  It needs no further explanation... nor obfuscation from you.

As for petards bwian...  you are a tard on a petard and you've been hoisted so high you'll never get down. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #148 - Dec 21st, 2013 at 9:31am
 
Grendel wrote on Dec 21st, 2013 at 8:38am:
I've already provided a defn for race therefore it exists bwian. 



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"Race is an idea, not a fact."  NIP

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Reply #149 - Dec 21st, 2013 at 9:43am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 21st, 2013 at 9:31am:
Grendel wrote on Dec 21st, 2013 at 8:38am:
I've already provided a defn for race therefore it exists bwian. 



Grin

"Race is an idea, not a fact."  NIP


Is that a fact??
Or just a random idea?
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