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Reply #180 - Dec 21st, 2013 at 6:05pm
 
If races are like breeds of dogs I wonder what Asian's would be?
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Reply #181 - Dec 21st, 2013 at 6:26pm
 
Grendel wrote on Dec 21st, 2013 at 3:04pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20th, 2013 at 10:13pm:
Soren wrote on Dec 20th, 2013 at 9:43pm:
|dev|null wrote on Dec 20th, 2013 at 3:44pm:
  The Stolen Generations was an attempt at genocide.  The intention was the obliteration of the Aborigines.



You ARE a fvkn looney!!!'


*SIGH* someone else who denies the historical record...  Roll Eyes

No generation was ever stolen bwian, I thought even you knew that.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
Or are you denying the historical record and replacing it with a hysterical one instead?  Grin Grin Grin


I agree, no single generation was stolen, Beowulf.

However, multiple generations were and it was admitted to by multiple State governments at the HRC Inquiry "Bringing them home".  Forgotten this?

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forcible removal affected every region of Australia it seems to have been more or less intense according to the period, the available resources and the `visibility' of, in particular, children of `mixed descent'. Nationally we can conclude with confidence that between one in three and one in ten Indigenous children were forcibly removed from their families and communities in the period from approximately 1910 until 1970. In certain regions and in certain periods the figure was undoubtedly much greater than one in ten. In that time not one Indigenous family has escaped the effects of forcible removal (confirmed by representatives of the Queensland and WA Governments in evidence to the Inquiry). Most families have been affected, in one or more generations, by the forcible removal of one or more children.
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Are you suggesting that the various State Governments lied before the inquiry when they made those admissions, Beowulf?   Roll Eyes
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Reply #182 - Dec 21st, 2013 at 6:42pm
 
... wrote on Dec 21st, 2013 at 11:00am:
Sure I did.  Not my problem if it isn't the stereotypical one you wanted. 

I don't believe you really were looking forward to an answer to such a trivial question though.


You're a despicable grub. If I met you in real life, I wouldn't even argue with you. I'd just punch your lights out and be done with it. Smiley
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Reply #183 - Dec 21st, 2013 at 6:51pm
 
Grendel wrote on Dec 21st, 2013 at 3:30pm:
[quote]Studies contradict view that race doesn’t exist

Racial differences among people are real, new studies suggest...[/b]


Again, no references and merely journalistic reporting, with no references to these "studies".  Really, Beowulf, this is merely sloppy opinion.   Show us the studies and reference them, if you want to be believed.    Roll Eyes
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Reply #184 - Dec 21st, 2013 at 6:57pm
 
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Race as a social construct and populationism

Since the 1960s, some anthropologists and teachers of anthropology[who?] have re-conceived "race" as a cultural category or social construct, in other words, as a particular way that some people have of talking about themselves and others. As such it cannot be a useful analytical concept; rather, the use of the term "race" itself must be analyzed. Others[who?] have argued that the concept of race as a social construct is itself a social construct that has little validity outside of contemporary humanities.

Some Historians, anthropologists and social scientists[who?] sometimes describe human races as a social construct, preferring instead the term population, which can be given a clear operational definition. Even those who reject the formal concept of race, however, still use the word race in day-to-day speech. This may either be a matter of semantics, or an effect of an underlying cultural significance of race in racist societies. Regardless of the name, a working concept of sub-species grouping can be useful, because in the absence of cheap and widespread genetic tests, various race-linked gene mutations (see Cystic fibrosis, Lactose intolerance, Tay-Sachs Disease and Sickle cell anemia) are difficult to address without recourse to a category between "individual" and "species". As genetic tests for such conditions become cheaper, and as detailed haplotype maps and SNP databases become available, identifiers of race should diminish. Also, increasing interracial marriage is reducing the predictive power of race. For example, most babies born with Tay-Sachs Disease in North America at present are not from Jewish families, despite stereotypes to contrary.

In everyday speech, race often describes populations better defined as ethnic groups, often leading to discrepancies between scientific views on race and popular usage of the term. For instance in many parts of the United States, categories such as Hispanic or Latino are viewed[by whom?] to constitute a race, though others[who?] see Hispanic as a linguistic and cultural grouping with European, African, and Amerindian ancestries. Historically in the United States, when the one-drop rule was in existence, the term Black subsumed people with a broad range of ancestries under one label.

Some[who?] argue it is preferable when considering biological relations to think in terms of populations, and when considering cultural relations to think in terms of ethnicity, rather than of race.

These developments had important consequences. For example, some scientists[who?] developed the notion of "population" to take the place of race. It is argued that this substitution is not simply a matter of exchanging one word for another.

This view does not deny that there are physical differences among peoples; it simply claims that the historical conceptions of "race" are not particularly useful in accounting for these differences scientifically. In particular, it is claimed[by whom?] that:

  1. knowing someone's "race" does not provide comprehensive predictive information about biological characteristics, and only absolutely predicts those traits that have been selected to define the racial categories, e.g. knowing a person's skin color, which is generally acknowledged to be one of the markers of race (or taken as a defining characteristic of race), does not allow good predictions of a person's blood type to be made.
  2. in general, the worldwide distribution of human phenotypes exhibits gradual trends of difference across geographic zones, not the categorical differences of race; in particular, there are many peoples (like the San of S. W. Africa, or the people of northern India) who have phenotypes that do not neatly fit into the standard race categories.
  3. focusing on race has historically led not only to seemingly insoluble disputes about classification (e.g. are the Japanese a distinct race, a mixture of races, or part of the East Asian race? and what about the Ainu?) but has also exposed disagreement about the criteria for making decisions— the selection of phenotypic traits seemed arbitrary...



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Reply #185 - Dec 21st, 2013 at 7:24pm
 
Sparky wrote on Dec 21st, 2013 at 6:05pm:
If races are like breeds of dogs I wonder what Asian's would be?



Is "Asian" a race?


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Reply #186 - Dec 21st, 2013 at 7:29pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 21st, 2013 at 7:24pm:
Sparky wrote on Dec 21st, 2013 at 6:05pm:
If races are like breeds of dogs I wonder what Asian's would be?



Is "Asian" a race?


Ask an Australian to describe an "Asian" and they will invariably talk about someone from East Asia.

Ask a British person to describe an "Asian" and they will invariably talk about some from South Asia.

Ask someone from Asia to describe an "Asian" and they will invariably describe themselves, whether they are Arabic, Persian, Turkic, Indian, Tamil, Burmese, Malaysian, Indonesian, Lao, Philippino, Chinese, Mongol, Manchurian, Japanese, etc...   Roll Eyes
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Reply #187 - Dec 21st, 2013 at 7:31pm
 

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I agree, no single generation was stolen, Beowulf.

However, multiple generations were and it was admitted to by multiple State governments at the HRC Inquiry "Bringing them home".  Forgotten this?


You should have stopped whilst you were correct bwian.

No single or multiple generations were stolen.

Crawl back to your hole while you still can.

As for race...  the article could be looked up by you if you wanted to bwian...  you googled my wiki quotes  Grin Grin Grin
You are such a disingenuous hypocrite.
And you like those who agree with you from the Left are wrong.  You are so wrong you cannot even admit the obvious.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

I posted the defn bwian... it is correct.  To deny it and the meaning is to be too stupid for words.

BTW there are many articles from scientists that agree with me.  In fact the Stanford Uni study was the basis of the article you poopooed...   Roll Eyes
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Reply #188 - Dec 21st, 2013 at 7:34pm
 
Hey bwian...

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Since the 1960s, some anthropologists and teachers of anthropology[who?] have re-conceived "race" as a cultural category or social construct, in other words, as a particular way that some people have of talking about themselves and others. As such it cannot be a useful analytical concept; rather, the use of the term "race" itself must be analyzed. Others[who?] have argued that the concept of race as a social construct is itself a social construct that has little validity outside of contemporary humanities.
Grin Grin Grin

source=bwian=wiki  Grin

Love it when they agree with me.  Grin
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Reply #189 - Dec 21st, 2013 at 7:43pm
 
Oh lool bwian yet another defn

race...
noun
    *
   
  each of the major divisions of humankind, having distinct physical characteristics:people of all races, colours, and creeds

    *
      [mass noun]
the fact or condition of belonging to a racial division or group; the qualities or characteristics associated with this.

    *
      a group of people sharing the same culture, history, language, etc.; an ethnic group:we Scots were a bloodthirsty race then
    *
      a group or set of people or things with a common feature or features:some male firefighters still regarded women as a race apart
    *
      Biology a population within a species that is distinct in some way, especially a subspecies:people have killed so many tigers that two races are probably extinct
    *
      (in non-technical use) each of the major divisions of living creatures:a member of the human race the race of birds
    *
      literary a group of people descended from a common ancestor:a prince of the race of Solomon
    *
      [mass noun] archaic ancestry:two coursers of ethereal race

     Although ideas of race are centuries old, it was not until the 19th century that attempts to systematize racial divisions were made. Ideas of supposed racial superiority and social Darwinism reached their culmination in Nazi ideology of the 1930s and gave pseudoscientific justification to policies and attitudes of discrimination, exploitation, slavery, and extermination. Theories of race asserting a link between racial type and intelligence are now discredited.
Scientifically it is accepted as obvious that there are subdivisions of the human species, but it is also clear that genetic variation between individuals of the same race can be as great as that between members of different races


Gee bwian...  it seems race does exist after all...  scientifically too... Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #190 - Dec 21st, 2013 at 7:47pm
 

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Someone's on the ropes    Grin
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Reply #191 - Dec 21st, 2013 at 7:50pm
 
On my last visit to my doctor he told me he had made a rare visit to Sydney's Central Railway Station area and was totally shocked by how the whole place has been taken over by Asians.

If he had moved further away from Central Station he would have seen that the streets are packed with Asians in every direction.

I think the word is 'swamped'.

Didn't a certain Miss Hanson have a word to say about that a few years ago ~ and John Howard publicly agreed with her?
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Reply #192 - Dec 21st, 2013 at 7:52pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 21st, 2013 at 7:50pm:
On my last visit to my doctor he told me he had made a rare visit to Sydney's Central Railway Station area and was totally shocked by how the whole place has been taken over by Asians.

If he had moved further away from Central Station he would have seen that the streets are packed with Asians in every direction.




And ... ?


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Reply #193 - Dec 21st, 2013 at 8:02pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 21st, 2013 at 7:52pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 21st, 2013 at 7:50pm:
On my last visit to my doctor he told me he had made a rare visit to Sydney's Central Railway Station area and was totally shocked by how the whole place has been taken over by Asians.

If he had moved further away from Central Station he would have seen that the streets are packed with Asians in every direction.




And ... ?


It's a racial ghetto where the Gweilo aren't really welcome as anything other than paying clients.




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Reply #194 - Dec 21st, 2013 at 8:02pm
 
Winston Smith wrote on Dec 21st, 2013 at 6:42pm:
... wrote on Dec 21st, 2013 at 11:00am:
Sure I did.  Not my problem if it isn't the stereotypical one you wanted. 

I don't believe you really were looking forward to an answer to such a trivial question though.


You're a despicable grub.




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