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Reply #210 - Dec 22nd, 2013 at 10:08am
 
... wrote on Dec 22nd, 2013 at 8:44am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 21st, 2013 at 10:54pm:
Continuing to answer questions with (unrelated) questions is just making you look like an absolute tool.

But then again, if the shoe fits ...


Ahhh you mean like instead of answering a simple, direct analogy, continuing to ask if "asian" is the only race?

I thought you were just playing dumb, but after seeing your form over the last few weeks, I'm not so sure it's an act.



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Reply #211 - Dec 22nd, 2013 at 10:13am
 
how does it feel to get owned by a complete moron?
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Reply #212 - Dec 22nd, 2013 at 10:37am
 
Only thing I want to know is why people would deny the existence of dog breeds? 

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Reply #213 - Dec 22nd, 2013 at 11:17am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 21st, 2013 at 7:24pm:
Sparky wrote on Dec 21st, 2013 at 6:05pm:
If races are like breeds of dogs I wonder what Asian's would be?



Is "Asian" a race?



Yes. (I assume you mean Mongoloids.)


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Reply #214 - Dec 22nd, 2013 at 11:24am
 
Spot the 'Asian', if you can. ( I BET you can't. $100)

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Reply #215 - Dec 22nd, 2013 at 11:51am
 
This explains it very well for the beginners and non academically inclined in this subject like Honky.

http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/biology/b103/f00/web2/ramon2.html

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Beginning in the 1940's, scientists began to realize that the racial map of human beings did not match what they were learning of human genes. Scientists due agree with the idea that people look different, mainly because of the varied environments in which they and their ancestors live. They have physically changed as environmental conditions warranted. Take skin color, as an example. It is essentially an adaptation to the amount of sun received. People from regions with lots of direct overhead sunlight (the tropics) tend to have darker skin than people from cloudy or oblique sunlight regions (northern temperate zones). Since melanin protects the skin from harmful ultraviolet radiation, people with more melanin in tropical areas tended to live longer, and produce more children, than people who were melanin deficient. Sunlight also stimulates vitamin D production. People from northern Europe and Asia who had little or no melanin were able to absorb more of the little sunlight there was, which enabled them to produce more vitamin D. (7)

Vast new data in human biology have completely revamped the traditional notions of race. Race is a biological term that describes the DNA structure of an individual as a fixed attribute that cannot be changed. This idea is used in biology to discuss how different peoples adapt to environments and hence, making the term "race" have no scientific basis. Today most scientists reject the concept of race as a valid way of defining human beings. Researchers no longer believe that races are distinct biological categories created by differences in genes that people inherit from their ancestors. Genes vary, but not in the popular notion of black, white, yellow, red and brown races. Many biologist and anthropologists have concluded that race is a social, cultural and political concept based largely on superficial appearances. (4)

In the past, races were identified by the imposition of discrete boundaries upon continuous and often discordant biological variation. The concept of race is therefore a historical construct and not one that provides either valid classification or an explanatory process. Popular everyday awareness of race is transmitted from generation to generation through cultural learning. Attributing race to an individual or a population amounts to applying a social and cultural label that lacks scientific consensus and supporting data. While anthropologists continue to study how and why humans vary biologically, it is apparent that human populations differ from one another much less than do populations in other species because we use our cultural, rather than our physical differences to aid us in adapting to various environments.


Its not that difficult to understand and no need to get bogged down in semantics, the term "race" is used for convenience as is the classification of humans into different racial groups.
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Reply #216 - Dec 22nd, 2013 at 11:54am
 
Soren wrote on Dec 22nd, 2013 at 11:17am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 21st, 2013 at 7:24pm:
Sparky wrote on Dec 21st, 2013 at 6:05pm:
If races are like breeds of dogs I wonder what Asian's would be?



Is "Asian" a race?



Yes. (I assume you mean Mongoloids.)





No, I mean "Asian": that's the term Honky and Sparky used.

They're the ones telling the story.


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Reply #217 - Dec 22nd, 2013 at 11:57am
 
I told you you couldn't spot the Asian kid.
Loser.

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Reply #218 - Dec 22nd, 2013 at 11:57am
 
Soren wrote on Dec 22nd, 2013 at 11:17am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 21st, 2013 at 7:24pm:
Sparky wrote on Dec 21st, 2013 at 6:05pm:
If races are like breeds of dogs I wonder what Asian's would be?



Is "Asian" a race?



Yes. (I assume you mean Mongoloids.)



Asian is a geographical term not a racial one. Mongoloids although Asian are not the only Asians. The term can and does refer to a wide range of racial types including sub continental Indians,  Mongoloids and Austronesians. In fact in the photo you posted there are examples where all of those racial types depicted could be called Asians.
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Reply #219 - Dec 22nd, 2013 at 12:13pm
 
Soren wrote on Dec 22nd, 2013 at 11:57am:
I told you you couldn't spot the Asian kid.
Loser.




Why do you want to "spot the Asian kid"?

Do you often walk down the street saying "there's an Asian".

Is it like trainspotting?


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Reply #220 - Dec 22nd, 2013 at 12:16pm
 
Nonsense.
Everyone - even you and Pecherhead - can see that on of the kids is Asian, one European, one Australian Aborigine and one African.

They cannot be all called Asians.

What next?
Sexual differences are all just social constructs?  Two blokes getting 'married'?
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Reply #221 - Dec 22nd, 2013 at 12:21pm
 
Of course they can, as an example your bottom photo is an Austronesian, I  personally have  seen and had contact with many Austronesians in Asia including in India, Indonesia and Malaysia where there are remaining indigenous tribes of them.

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The Austronesian-speaking peoples[4] are various populations in Southeast Asia and Oceania that speak languages of the Austronesian family. They include Taiwanese aborigines; the majority ethnic groups of Malaysia, East Timor, the Philippines, Indonesia, Brunei, Madagascar, Micronesia, and Polynesia, as well as the Polynesian peoples of New Zealand and Hawaii, and the non-Papuan people of Melanesia. They are also found in Singapore, the Pattani region of Thailand, and the Cham areas of Vietnam (remnants of the Champa kingdom which covered central and southern Vietnam), Cambodia, and Hainan, China. The territories populated by Austronesian-speaking peoples are known collectively as Austronesia.
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Reply #222 - Dec 22nd, 2013 at 12:21pm
 
Soren wrote on Dec 22nd, 2013 at 12:16pm:
Nonsense.
Everyone - even you and Pecherhead - can see that on of the kids is Asian, one European, one Australian Aborigine and one African.

They cannot be all called Asians.




Why do you feel the need to call them anything other than kids?


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Reply #223 - Dec 22nd, 2013 at 12:21pm
 
This just shows the silliness of attempting to categorise humans by appearance.
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Reply #224 - Dec 22nd, 2013 at 12:24pm
 
Negro groups in asia, direct descendants of Africans.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negrito
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The term Negrito refers to several ethnic groups who inhabit isolated parts of Southeast Asia.[1] Their current populations include 12 Andamanese peoples of the Andaman Islands, six Semang peoples of Malaysia, the Mani of Thailand, and the Aeta, Agta, Ati, and 30 other peoples of the Philippines.

Negritos are the most genetically distant human population from Africans at most loci studied thus far (except for MC1R, which codes for dark skin).

They have also been shown to have separated early from Asians, suggesting that they are either surviving descendants of settlers from an early migration out of Africa, commonly referred to as the Proto-Australoids, or that they are descendants of one of the founder populations of modern humans.[2]
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