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Re: Australia Grows More "Asian"
Reply #30 - Dec 16th, 2013 at 6:56pm
 
Winston Smith wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 6:22pm:
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Australia isn't growing more Asian. If the do-gooders let people smuggling run riot it would.


And becoming more Asian as a nation is a problem because?


Because Asian values are different to Western values. Do you want to debate that?



What's wrong with "different"?


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Reply #31 - Dec 16th, 2013 at 7:05pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 6:56pm:
Winston Smith wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 6:22pm:
|dev|null wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 12:35pm:
Sparky wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 11:52am:
Australia isn't growing more Asian. If the do-gooders let people smuggling run riot it would.


And becoming more Asian as a nation is a problem because?


Because Asian values are different to Western values. Do you want to debate that?



What's wrong with "different"?




What's wrong with "same"?

Why allow economics to have such a large influence in the cultural life of a people?
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Reply #32 - Dec 16th, 2013 at 7:07pm
 
Winston Smith wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 7:05pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 6:56pm:
Winston Smith wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 6:22pm:
|dev|null wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 12:35pm:
Sparky wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 11:52am:
Australia isn't growing more Asian. If the do-gooders let people smuggling run riot it would.


And becoming more Asian as a nation is a problem because?


Because Asian values are different to Western values. Do you want to debate that?



What's wrong with "different"?




What's wrong with "same"?

Why allow economics to have such a large influence in the cultural life of a people?



Answering a question with a question (two!).  Nice.

Let's try again.

What's wrong with "different"?


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Reply #33 - Dec 16th, 2013 at 7:20pm
 
Eating cats and dogs isn't a cultural value I would want here. And good luck trying to convince Australians it's okay with trendy slogans like diversity and tolerance.
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Reply #34 - Dec 16th, 2013 at 7:37pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 7:07pm:
Winston Smith wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 7:05pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 6:56pm:
Winston Smith wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 6:22pm:
|dev|null wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 12:35pm:
Sparky wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 11:52am:
Australia isn't growing more Asian. If the do-gooders let people smuggling run riot it would.


And becoming more Asian as a nation is a problem because?


Because Asian values are different to Western values. Do you want to debate that?



What's wrong with "different"?




What's wrong with "same"?

Why allow economics to have such a large influence in the cultural life of a people?



Answering a question with a question (two!).  Nice.

Let's try again.

What's wrong with "different"?




Because "different" means moving away from the way it's been. Why would one need to justify staying the same? Surely one would have to justify becoming "different", as that is a committment to change, for which there must be some rationale.

Nice try though.
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Reply #35 - Dec 16th, 2013 at 7:41pm
 
Winston Smith wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 7:37pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 7:07pm:
Winston Smith wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 7:05pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 6:56pm:
Winston Smith wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 6:22pm:
|dev|null wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 12:35pm:
Sparky wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 11:52am:
Australia isn't growing more Asian. If the do-gooders let people smuggling run riot it would.


And becoming more Asian as a nation is a problem because?


Because Asian values are different to Western values. Do you want to debate that?



What's wrong with "different"?




What's wrong with "same"?

Why allow economics to have such a large influence in the cultural life of a people?



Answering a question with a question (two!).  Nice.

Let's try again.

What's wrong with "different"?




Because "different" means moving away from the way it's been.




What's wrong with "moving away from the way it's been"?



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Reply #36 - Dec 16th, 2013 at 7:48pm
 
Asian culture in general isn't worthy of being in Australia for starters.

Hindu- These are the types of people who put marks on their women's heads. Seems awfully primitive to me.
Islamics- Simply want to destroy everyone who's not like them.

Even the more culturally acceptable ones in the eastern parts, for instance, Japanese, tend not to migrate because Japan is doing great economically (#3 GDP global, was #2 until China very recently overthrew them). South Korea, Taiwan and Singapore are all developed and therefore nobody migrates.

So who migrates here:
Indonesians. These people are all Islamics. Some parts (Aceh) are more reactionary than the moderates in Java.

Indians. Hindus or Islamics. Nothing else comes from there. They are also probably the most isolationist people I have ever came across. Where I'm at, there are huge communities whom don't seem to have jobs (I imagine they expect men to do all the work in that backwards culture) and never seem to speak or even understand our language. I imagine just one or two of them do in each family, and they get all the foods etc to bring back to the rest. Completely unacceptable.

Chinese. Intent on buying out every business in Australia and sapping the nation's wealth to add to their own. They're capitalists and have been for a long time. Anyone with an even slightly nationalistic tendency hates them.

Filipinos. These guys are actually encouraged to move overseas and find jobs because their country is so underdeveloped. They are expected to learn English, move, and send money back home. Corruption is rife, crime is rife, and natural disasters occur frequently in that area (tectonic plates).

So ah, who exactly is a worthwhile addition to the nation from Asia? Nobody, am I right? Because they're either undeveloped, uncivilised, or both.
Face it, Australia picks up all the worst kind of trash from overseas. They're cowards running away from their situation back home and take for granted the better life they have here. They do nothing in return for the nation and are simply counter-productive.
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Reply #37 - Dec 16th, 2013 at 7:49pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 7:41pm:
Winston Smith wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 7:37pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 7:07pm:
Winston Smith wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 7:05pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 6:56pm:
Winston Smith wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 6:22pm:
|dev|null wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 12:35pm:
Sparky wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 11:52am:
Australia isn't growing more Asian. If the do-gooders let people smuggling run riot it would.


And becoming more Asian as a nation is a problem because?


Because Asian values are different to Western values. Do you want to debate that?



What's wrong with "different"?




What's wrong with "same"?

Why allow economics to have such a large influence in the cultural life of a people?



Answering a question with a question (two!).  Nice.

Let's try again.

What's wrong with "different"?




Because "different" means moving away from the way it's been.




What's wrong with "moving away from the way it's been"?





That depends on how "where it's been" compares to "where it's going" in terms of the relevant indicators.
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Reply #38 - Dec 16th, 2013 at 7:52pm
 
Winston Smith wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 7:49pm:
That depends on how "where it's been" compares to "where it's going" in terms of the relevant indicators.



So what scares you the most?


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Reply #39 - Dec 16th, 2013 at 8:02pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 7:52pm:
Winston Smith wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 7:49pm:
That depends on how "where it's been" compares to "where it's going" in terms of the relevant indicators.



So what scares you the most?




Is this a new line of questioning?
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Reply #40 - Dec 16th, 2013 at 8:04pm
 
Xerxei wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 7:48pm:
Asian culture in general isn't worthy of being in Australia for starters.

Hindu- These are the types of people who put marks on their women's heads. Seems awfully primitive to me.
Islamics- Simply want to destroy everyone who's not like them.

Even the more culturally acceptable ones in the eastern parts, for instance, Japanese, tend not to migrate because Japan is doing great economically (#3 GDP global, was #2 until China very recently overthrew them). South Korea, Taiwan and Singapore are all developed and therefore nobody migrates.

So who migrates here:
Indonesians. These people are all Islamics. Some parts (Aceh) are more reactionary than the moderates in Java.

Indians. Hindus or Islamics. Nothing else comes from there. They are also probably the most isolationist people I have ever came across. Where I'm at, there are huge communities whom don't seem to have jobs (I imagine they expect men to do all the work in that backwards culture) and never seem to speak or even understand our language. I imagine just one or two of them do in each family, and they get all the foods etc to bring back to the rest. Completely unacceptable.

Chinese. Intent on buying out every business in Australia and sapping the nation's wealth to add to their own. They're capitalists and have been for a long time. Anyone with an even slightly nationalistic tendency hates them.

Filipinos. These guys are actually encouraged to move overseas and find jobs because their country is so underdeveloped. They are expected to learn English, move, and send money back home. Corruption is rife, crime is rife, and natural disasters occur frequently in that area (tectonic plates).

So ah, who exactly is a worthwhile addition to the nation from Asia? Nobody, am I right? Because they're either undeveloped, uncivilised, or both.
Face it, Australia picks up all the worst kind of trash from overseas. They're cowards running away from their situation back home and take for granted the better life they have here. They do nothing in return for the nation and are simply counter-productive.



Looks like Soren might lose his title.


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Reply #41 - Dec 17th, 2013 at 10:35am
 
Sparky wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 5:16pm:
|dev|null wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 3:54pm:
Sparky wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 12:45pm:
|dev|null wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 12:35pm:
Sparky wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 11:52am:
Australia isn't growing more Asian. If the do-gooders let people smuggling run riot it would.


And becoming more Asian as a nation is a problem because?
Because people who aren't Asian will become second class citizens. Also there will probably be massive social disturbance as a result.


Will they?  Will there?

You have a crystal ball?

Why should these events occur?
So all the Aussies are going to sit around why China takes over? Maybe you need a crystal ball.


I rather think that is the point.  With Australians whom are of Asian descent making up a minority of the population, how are they going to "take over"?   Moreover, why would China bother?

My question though, is what is the problem?  If all Australians, no matter what their descent are Australians, doesn't that mean that Australia remains Australian?

Or are you talking about something like racism?   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #42 - Dec 17th, 2013 at 10:43am
 
Winston Smith wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 6:22pm:
|dev|null wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 12:35pm:
Sparky wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 11:52am:
Australia isn't growing more Asian. If the do-gooders let people smuggling run riot it would.


And becoming more Asian as a nation is a problem because?


Because Asian values are different to Western values. Do you want to debate that?


Are they?  How?  Would you care to demonstrate your claim in some way by providing a comparison between "Asian values" and "Western values"?

Of course, you'll have to first produce some sort of average set of values for the entire continent of Asia and the same for the entire "Western world" (defining that first, of course)...   Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin
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Reply #43 - Dec 17th, 2013 at 10:45am
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 7:20pm:
Eating cats and dogs isn't a cultural value I would want here. And good luck trying to convince Australians it's okay with trendy slogans like diversity and tolerance.



Ever tried it?  Cat tastes like Chicken and Dog tastes like Beef.  Quite tasty too!   Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin
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Reply #44 - Dec 17th, 2013 at 10:47am
 
Xerxei wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 7:48pm:
Asian culture in general isn't worthy of being in Australia for starters.

Hindu- These are the types of people who put marks on their women's heads. Seems awfully primitive to me.


Actually, both genders wear the marks.  Your ignorance is showing.

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Islamics- Simply want to destroy everyone who's not like them.


Bvllshit.  Some Muslims may but most Muslims don't.  Your ignorance is showing again.   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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