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Reply #346 - Dec 28th, 2013 at 8:07am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 28th, 2013 at 12:02am:
Still, my question to you is: "so what?".

Why does this scenario scare you?


Have you stopped beating your wife yet?
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Reply #347 - Dec 28th, 2013 at 8:23am
 
What would our politicians, our ABC commentariat, our self-elected Moral Elite, and our media columnists, and the SBS, have said if during South Africa's apartheid years the vice-president had paid us a visit and had been greeted by hundreds of deliriously happy ex-patriot white South Africans at the airport ~ including the 'leaders' of the white South African community here?

There would have been hell to pay. Our immigrant South Africans would have been pilloried and demonised mercilessly as supporters of South Africa's wicked regime.

But then ... what if it's a different race and colour to white Caucasians in a similar scenario?

Answer: Not a peep out of our Leftwing Moral Guardians of the Public Conscience.

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There was a time when we had to lock these people up in internment camps.i



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Reply #348 - Dec 28th, 2013 at 10:10am
 
Needless to say, Greg is either part of an ethnic minority ~ or is a misfit within his own community for wanting to help facilitate the destruction of his own kind.

Trevor Phillips is a black man living in the UK.

So, Greg, be sure to read the following with your special rose-coloured glasses for when it's a Black Man saying just the same things as a .... white, bigotted, racist, xenophobic, fascist Rightwing scumball. 

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UK 'becoming colour-coded society' because races don't mix, says ex-equality chief.

Trevor Phillips former head of the equalities watchdog said Britain was ‘in denial’ about growing levels of racial division.
   
He warned: ‘The consequences are to set communities against each other and to build educational and economic division into our society


(ie. Islamic schools that further entrench non-assimilationist attitudes in UK-born Muslims).

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Britain is turning into a ‘colour-coded society’ as whites and ethnic minorities choose to live apart, Trevor Phillips warns today.

The former head of the equalities watchdog said Britain was ‘in denial’ about growing levels of racial division resulting from the choices different groups make about where to live.


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Mr Phillips, the former chairman of the Equality and Human Rights Commission, described this process as ‘comfort zone segregation’ and warned it would ‘set communities against each other’.

He said: ‘We’ve been in denial on this issue for far too long.


Are you listening, Greg?

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‘If we’re going to halt the trend we first have to acknowledge it is taking place.’


Yes, he's talking to YOU, Greg.

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Some 600,000 whites left London for other parts of England and Wales over the same period, with many opting for ‘homogeneous’ areas that are more than 90 per cent white.


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Instead, they said it was a result of ‘cultural tastes’ and ideals about what kind of neighbourhood they wanted to live in.


It's not rocket science. It's very basic to human nature.

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Reply #349 - Dec 28th, 2013 at 10:20am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 28th, 2013 at 10:10am:
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Some 600,000 whites left London for other parts of England and Wales over the same period, with many opting for ‘homogeneous’ areas that are more than 90 per cent white.




Are they sure it wasn't 6,000,000? The only time you see a white Englishman in London is on the tube during peak hour commuting before and after office hours. The rest of the day it is like living in a Benetton commercial.
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Reply #350 - Dec 28th, 2013 at 11:11am
 
Quantum wrote on Dec 28th, 2013 at 10:20am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 28th, 2013 at 10:10am:
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Some 600,000 whites left London for other parts of England and Wales over the same period, with many opting for ‘homogeneous’ areas that are more than 90 per cent white.




Are they sure it wasn't 6,000,000? The only time you see a white Englishman in London is on the tube during peak hour commuting before and after office hours. The rest of the day it is like living in a Benetton commercial.    


I'm not against individual blacks, and orientals, etc. Good luck and a happy life to all of them, I say.

It's only when they begin to congregate in large numbers to the effect of supplanting the locals in their own generational homeland suburbs that a little question of doubt begins to appear in the mind.

We had a Talkback radio host here in Sydney back in the 60's, 70's, and 80's called Ron Casey. He also wrote a book called 'Confessions of a Larrikin' in which he told the story of Sydney's Chinese community leadership banding together to secretly offer him $1million in real estate if only he would stop warning his radio audience about the future consequences of allowing Australia to be swamped by Asians.

He refused their offer.

Ron Casey said everything would go along just fine until an immigrant Third World minority like the Chinese would suddenly reached 'critical mass' in number.

Once this tipping-point arrives ~ you'll look around you as a European Australian and realise you're a stranger in your own country, and it might be time to move to another suburb, or a country town where your racial-type is more compatible.




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Reply #351 - Dec 28th, 2013 at 11:20am
 
Once this tipping-point arrives ~ you'll look around you as a European Australian and realise you're a stranger in your own country, and it might be time to move to another suburb, or a country town where your racial-type is more compatible. By Herbert.

That's been happening for years. I'm 40 and I remember when Lakemba was Aussie. White flight has been a very strong flow for years in Australia. That's where multiculturalism is flawed. There is no intercultural or interracial relationship. Just big groups and enclaves segregated from one another. Division is dangerous.

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Reply #352 - Dec 28th, 2013 at 11:49am
 
Sparky wrote on Dec 28th, 2013 at 11:20am:
Once this tipping-point arrives ~ you'll look around you as a European Australian and realise you're a stranger in your own country, and it might be time to move to another suburb, or a country town where your racial-type is more compatible. By Herbert.

That's been happening for years. I'm 40 and I remember when Lakemba was Aussie. White flight has been a very strong flow for years in Australia. That's where multiculturalism is flawed. There is no intercultural or interracial relationship. Just big groups and enclaves segregated from one another. Division is dangerous.


'In Diversity There is Strength'.

'We are One, but We are Many'.

The German Chancellor ... the British Prime Minister ... the French President ... and now Britain's black ex-equality chief all confess to the fact that 'multiculturalism' is a crock and an ideological nonsense.

Became disillusioned with multiculturalism
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Reply #353 - Dec 28th, 2013 at 12:23pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 28th, 2013 at 12:02am:
What are you afraid of?

You don't seem to be able to answer that simple question.

Asians are taking over Australia. 

In 30 years time the population of Australia will be 95% Asian.

Bubble Tea shops will be on every corner.

Still, my question to you is: "so what?".

Why does this scenario scare you?







1. If Asian societies were superior to Australia's, all these Asians and Arabs and Indians would stay in Asia. They know that their societies and cultures are inferior- that is why they leave them.

2. Nevertheless they are ticking to their old ways and values. And by re-creating here the societies they left behind, they will degrade this country, undermining and weakening it' essential nature (the one that attracted them in the first place).

3. I don't see the East Asians and the Indians and the Arabs, Persians and Afghans mixing and enjoying their common values in Australia because they have zero common values among themselves. So they are not only keeping a distance from the locals, they are also fragmenting along their own ethnic lines.

What Australia is losing is the 'we'. It's national identity is being diluted an is not replaced with anything better. Diversity of people with very little in common is no improvement.







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Reply #354 - Dec 28th, 2013 at 12:29pm
 
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But in the nearly 15 years we lived there the suburb changed, and much for the worse.

Three dynamics interacted in a noxious fashion: the growth of a macho, misogynist culture among young men that often found expression in extremely violent crime; a pervasive atmosphere of anti-social behaviour in the streets; and the simultaneous growth of Islamist extremism and jihadi culture.


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Whereas once I wholeheartedly supported multiculturalism, I now think it's a failure and the word should be abandoned.


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There are two obvious, logical flaws in the way Bowen treats immigration into Europe.

The first is that he puts the entire burden for the success or failure of an immigrant community's experience down to the attitude of the host society and places absolutely no analytical weight at all on the performance and behaviour of the immigrants themselves.

Second, the problems that Bowen is talking about are problems with Muslim immigrants, not with immigrants generally. Chinese and non-Muslim Indian immigrants have been immensely successful in Britain. Indeed, being Indian in Britain is extremely chic.


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France, too. Certainly immigrants to Britain from the rest of Europe don't display anything like the alienation of a serious minority of Muslim These minorities for the most part have done OK in immigrants.


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Then there is the ever present risk of being labelled a racist. No matter how calmly the discussion is conducted, that is a big danger.

But the only people who don't think there is a problem with Islam are those who live on some other planet. The reputation of Islam in the West is not poor because of prejudiced Western Islamophobia, still less because Western governments conduct some kind of anti-Islamic propaganda.

Instead, it is the behaviour of people claiming the justification of Islam for their actions that affects the reputation of Islam.


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It may very well be that the overwhelming majority of the world's Muslims reject such actions. But it is fatuous to try to find a similar pattern of Christian, Buddhist or Jewish behaviour. You can find extremists in every religion and from every background, but there is no equivalence in the size and strength of the extremist tendency in other religions.


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Living next to Lakemba for nearly 15 years also gave me a different view of how immigration can go wrong. Our sons went initially to a state primary school that had a brilliant principal and did a fine job.

But as they approached secondary school a senior teacher told us that our boys had academic potential and it would be a tragedy to send them to the local high school. It was riven with violence and misogyny, drugs and gang and ethnic conflict.

If you find yourself unexpectedly in a war zone, your instinct is to evacuate the family, so the boys went to a private Catholic school, which was racially and even religiously diverse, though I don't believe there were any Muslim kids there. It was excellent.


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I was shocked to discover the growth of jihadi culture in Lakemba. We used to go to its main street for shopping and for food.

One day, waiting for a pizza order, I wandered into the Muslim bookshop. I was astounded to see titles such as The International Jew or The Truth about the Pope, amid a welter of anti-Semitic, anti-Christian and pro-extremist literature.

The revenge attacks on white Australians after the Cronulla riots originated out of Punchbowl. A number of media crews were attacked when they went to local mosques. A large number of those charged with terrorism offences in Australia stayed in or had associations with the area.


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The advent of satellite television made it easier for these folks to live a life apart. Hezbollah's Al-Manar TV station was available on satellite packages. Most Arab homes you went into had Arabic TV playing in the background.

The anti-social behaviour became more acute.

One son was playing cricket with friends when they were challenged by a group of teenagers, whom they presumed to be Lebanese but may have been of other Middle Eastern origin, who objected to white boys playing cricket. A full-scale, if brief, fist fight ensued.

One son was challenged by a boy with a gun. Lakemba police station was shot up. Crime increased on the railway line.


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walking a long route from the station to home. At some point it became unwise to walk on Canterbury Road. A white guy in a suit was a natural target for abuse or a can of beer or something else hurled I was in the habit of taking an evening constitutional, from a passing car.


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A senior policeman from nearby Bankstown once told me that policing in the Bankstown area was unlike working anywhere else in Australia, and he was amazed how much violent crime went unreported by the media.


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Does Islam itself have a role in these problems? The answer is complex and nuanced but it must be a qualified, and deeply reluctant, yes.


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To have concerns about these matters is not racism or xenophobia. It is reasonable.


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No one in Europe, 25 years ago, thought they would be in the mess they're in today.


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Reply #355 - Dec 29th, 2013 at 4:32pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 28th, 2013 at 8:07am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 28th, 2013 at 12:02am:
Still, my question to you is: "so what?".

Why does this scenario scare you?


Have you stopped beating your wife yet?



Yes, and now that she's regained consciousness she'd like to hear your answer too.

So ... ?


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Reply #356 - Dec 29th, 2013 at 7:25pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 29th, 2013 at 4:32pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 28th, 2013 at 8:07am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 28th, 2013 at 12:02am:
Still, my question to you is: "so what?".

Why does this scenario scare you?


Have you stopped beating your wife yet?



Yes, and now that she's regained consciousness she'd like to hear your answer too.

So ... ?


I don't answer rhetorical questions.






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Reply #357 - Dec 29th, 2013 at 7:59pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 29th, 2013 at 4:32pm:
So ... ?




So you have no justification for the influx of culturally alien people.

All you have is 'all cultures are the same', which is, unsurprisingly, a load of BS.


So....???

So - you have no valid case for the intermingling of incompatible cultures and races. I can't think of a single improvement that the Chinese or the Indians, let alone islanders, have made to Australia's political, social, cultural strength, unless it was made expressly in the context of the prevailing open and liberal cultural context which is Anglo-European.

There is no Chinese culture, no Indian culture, no Islander culture that supports diversity. They just want to dominate.





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Reply #358 - Dec 29th, 2013 at 8:41pm
 
Soren wrote on Dec 28th, 2013 at 12:23pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 28th, 2013 at 12:02am:
What are you afraid of?

You don't seem to be able to answer that simple question.

Asians are taking over Australia. 

In 30 years time the population of Australia will be 95% Asian.

Bubble Tea shops will be on every corner.

Still, my question to you is: "so what?".

Why does this scenario scare you?







1. If Asian societies were superior to Australia's, all these Asians and Arabs and Indians would stay in Asia. They know that their societies and cultures are inferior- that is why they leave them.


I say, old chap, is that why you left yours?

Yes, you wanted to better yourself. You wanted the company of superiors. You wanted to leave your appalling, backward little backwater and join this great, superior society of ours, and why not?

I’m sure you’ll learn our customs and maybe even fit in - eventually. Give it time, old boy.

Until then, just be yourself. You came here to be lifted up by your bootstraps, and we admire you for it. We like you, old chap, just for being you. You’re really very brave, you know.

Please don’t change a thing.
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Reply #359 - Dec 29th, 2013 at 8:48pm
 
"All cultures are the same"  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

BTW Race and Culture are not the same Karnal... I gather you admit RACE exists then, good for you....  there are Negroid Frenchmen who play Soccer for France.  They were brought up French and have from birth known nothing but the French culture.

Oh and BTW the French culture is not the Australian culture, people can tell the difference.
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