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Reply #75 - Dec 17th, 2013 at 5:37pm
 
Winston Smith wrote on Dec 17th, 2013 at 5:30pm:
Sparky wrote on Dec 17th, 2013 at 5:15pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 17th, 2013 at 5:08pm:
Sparky wrote on Dec 17th, 2013 at 5:06pm:
I don't think that's racism.



Well, it is.


So it's wrong to say many Asian countries eat most of what their nature offers. You people can't handle facts when they get in the way of your PC sensibilities.


What you meant is that one would think that after a period of time spent subsisting on low quality food, that people would seek out more nourishing and palatable fare. One would think that the human suffering of perpetual poverty on such a vast scale would bring about some humane or rational response to mitigate that misery. One would then have to question the quality of the individuals produced by such a morass and the inherent risks in exposing ourselves to them on a large scale.
I do question some Asian behaviours. I don't understand having 10 children when you can't feed them. I question having raw sewerage flowing down a gutter. The lack of planning in most of Asia is a concern. I believe a lot of it is cultural. I'm sure these differences would have an amazing impact on Australian society. You were talking about this before.
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Reply #76 - Dec 17th, 2013 at 6:01pm
 
Sparky wrote on Dec 17th, 2013 at 5:37pm:
Winston Smith wrote on Dec 17th, 2013 at 5:30pm:
Sparky wrote on Dec 17th, 2013 at 5:15pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 17th, 2013 at 5:08pm:
Sparky wrote on Dec 17th, 2013 at 5:06pm:
I don't think that's racism.



Well, it is.


So it's wrong to say many Asian countries eat most of what their nature offers. You people can't handle facts when they get in the way of your PC sensibilities.


What you meant is that one would think that after a period of time spent subsisting on low quality food, that people would seek out more nourishing and palatable fare. One would think that the human suffering of perpetual poverty on such a vast scale would bring about some humane or rational response to mitigate that misery. One would then have to question the quality of the individuals produced by such a morass and the inherent risks in exposing ourselves to them on a large scale.
I do question some Asian behaviours. I don't understand having 10 children when you can't feed them. I question having raw sewerage flowing down a gutter. The lack of planning in most of Asia is a concern. I believe a lot of it is cultural. I'm sure these differences would have an amazing impact on Australian society. You were talking about this before.


There is a saying about the lobster never noticing the pot getting warming until it's too late. The narratives for addressing this have been effectively emasculated by corporate interests, a compliant media and corrupt politicians. This was done to disenfranchise the populations of nation states of their labour and resources. The fruits of which have all been privately hoarded for the few. Letting Asians in was scraping the bottom of the barrel, running the farm into the ground then selling it off.
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Reply #77 - Dec 17th, 2013 at 6:14pm
 
Winston Smith wrote on Dec 17th, 2013 at 6:01pm:
Sparky wrote on Dec 17th, 2013 at 5:37pm:
Winston Smith wrote on Dec 17th, 2013 at 5:30pm:
Sparky wrote on Dec 17th, 2013 at 5:15pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 17th, 2013 at 5:08pm:
Sparky wrote on Dec 17th, 2013 at 5:06pm:
I don't think that's racism.



Well, it is.


So it's wrong to say many Asian countries eat most of what their nature offers. You people can't handle facts when they get in the way of your PC sensibilities.


What you meant is that one would think that after a period of time spent subsisting on low quality food, that people would seek out more nourishing and palatable fare. One would think that the human suffering of perpetual poverty on such a vast scale would bring about some humane or rational response to mitigate that misery. One would then have to question the quality of the individuals produced by such a morass and the inherent risks in exposing ourselves to them on a large scale.
I do question some Asian behaviours. I don't understand having 10 children when you can't feed them. I question having raw sewerage flowing down a gutter. The lack of planning in most of Asia is a concern. I believe a lot of it is cultural. I'm sure these differences would have an amazing impact on Australian society. You were talking about this before.


There is a saying about the lobster never noticing the pot getting warming until it's too late. The narratives for addressing this have been effectively emasculated by corporate interests, a compliant media and corrupt politicians. This was done to disenfranchise the populations of nation states of their labour and resources. The fruits of which have all been privately hoarded for the few. Letting Asians in was scraping the bottom of the barrel, running the farm into the ground then selling it off.

The aborigines wouldn't like an Asian takeover. What do you think of that?
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Reply #78 - Dec 19th, 2013 at 3:17pm
 
ian wrote on Dec 14th, 2013 at 10:39pm:
Any anthropologist will tell you that there is greater genetic diversity within racial groups than there is between them. So your argument is moot.


"moot"? I think that statement you just made was pretty moot as this article is discussing the opposition to Australia being irreversibly, demographically altered in just decades, which is not strictly a racial thing, but obviously a cultural issue.

But I wonder how it would go down if you told African Americans or Aborigines not to bother preserving or even ACKNOWLEDGING their culture and heritage because there's "no such thing as race", or to tell Israeli Jews (or even Palestinians) that Race is just a social construct , because the obvious physical differences due to geographic adaptation for over 40,000 years on different continents is just a trivial silly thing that should be discarded in preference for a modern controversial government enforced assimilation experiment called the "melting pot", where everyone can instead look the same. yay! Who would not greet this with open arms for their entire nations? Only an evil racist monster who wants to murder another 6 million Jews and is holding back the natural progression and evolution of mankind.
This is what the average leftist believes. Its mind blowing really

If you want to claim that race doesn't exist even though this is a cultural issue (Do you believe in culture? its a social construct but very real) then why is it nobody is denying that blacks have superior lower body strength and EXCEL in all running competitions, basketball etc, or that east Asians and Ashkenazi Jews have excellent IQs? Of COURSE leftists dont vehemently deny this, because its the warm fuzzy feeling received from the indoctrination. But when it comes to the most basic human rights, and fundamental self-determination of a very distinguishable Australian Anglo-celtic ethnic group, who have established a culture and heritage over 200 years, known today as Australia, then liberals revert to "race doesnt exist" or "the very proud natives lived here before you so paybacks a bitch!".

Quite funny how people bicker on these sites like Children. I have to admit though, these leftists take this very cosy reality-denying moral highground and just accuse people of "racism" using political correctness to stunt a debate which is located in the section "Multiculturalism and Race". Why dont you assume for a moment that we're not all children, and nobodies going "um mum mum im telling the teacher on you!" and actually address the points? Seriously, I dont CARE if im labeled a racist. Do Leftists really believe that single word is capable of just shutting up real opposition to an actual controversial nation-altering experiment?  oh wait, it actually does. Very sad indeed

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Reply #79 - Dec 19th, 2013 at 3:44pm
 
Sparky wrote on Dec 17th, 2013 at 6:14pm:
The aborigines wouldn't like an Asian takeover. What do you think of that?


Couldn't have been much worse after you consider what white people did to them....   Grin Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #80 - Dec 19th, 2013 at 3:50pm
 
Mathew wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 3:17pm:
ian wrote on Dec 14th, 2013 at 10:39pm:
Any anthropologist will tell you that there is greater genetic diversity within racial groups than there is between them. So your argument is moot.


"moot"? I think that statement you just made was pretty moot as this article is discussing the opposition to Australia being irreversibly, demographically altered in just decades, which is not strictly a racial thing, but obviously a cultural issue.

But I wonder how it would go down if you told African Americans or Aborigines not to bother preserving or even ACKNOWLEDGING their culture and heritage because there's "no such thing as race", or to tell Israeli Jews (or even Palestinians) that Race is just a social construct , because the obvious physical differences due to geographic adaptation for over 40,000 years on different continents is just a trivial silly thing that should be discarded in preference for a modern controversial government enforced assimilation experiment called the "melting pot", where everyone can instead look the same. yay! Who would not greet this with open arms for their entire nations? Only an evil racist monster who wants to murder another 6 million Jews and is holding back the natural progression and evolution of mankind.
This is what the average leftist believes. Its mind blowing really

If you want to claim that race doesn't exist even though this is a cultural issue (Do you believe in culture? its a social construct but very real) then why is it nobody is denying that blacks have superior lower body strength and EXCEL in all running competitions, basketball etc, or that east Asians and Ashkenazi Jews have excellent IQs? Of COURSE leftists dont vehemently deny this, because its the warm fuzzy feeling received from the indoctrination. But when it comes to the most basic human rights, and fundamental self-determination of a very distinguishable Australian Anglo-celtic ethnic group, who have established a culture and heritage over 200 years, known today as Australia, then liberals revert to "race doesnt exist" or "the very proud natives lived here before you so paybacks a bitch!".

Quite funny how people bicker on these sites like Children. I have to admit though, these leftists take this very cosy reality-denying moral highground and just accuse people of "racism" using political correctness to stunt a debate which is located in the section "Multiculturalism and Race". Why dont you assume for a moment that we're not all children, and nobodies going "um mum mum im telling the teacher on you!" and actually address the points? Seriously, I dont CARE if im labeled a racist. Do Leftists really believe that single word is capable of just shutting up real opposition to an actual controversial nation-altering experiment?  oh wait, it actually does. Very sad indeed




You're pulling the usual racist's trick of confusing ethnicity and culture for the concept of "race".  Race is about genetic differences which are, as mentioned minor between the different human groups, not sufficient to sustain the socially constructed concept of "race" as racists use it.   Effectively there is primarily only superficial physical differences between the various races.  A black person from Africa can interbreed with a white person from Europe, a white person from Europe can interbreed with an Asian person from Asia and so on and so on.   The emphasis that racists place on those physical differences is what makes the concept of race.  Genetics disproves it.  We are all descended from Africans anyway.    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #81 - Dec 19th, 2013 at 3:56pm
 
|dev|null wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 3:44pm:
Sparky wrote on Dec 17th, 2013 at 6:14pm:
The aborigines wouldn't like an Asian takeover. What do you think of that?


Couldn't have been much worse after you consider what white people did to them....   Grin Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin Grin


>"race doesnt exist"
>Cant be as bad as what those evil white people did to them

You must be a troll. I find it hard to believe you genuinely believe the contradictory things you're saying. God it must be nice to be that ignorant. You can literally win any debate with your dynamic double-logic.
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Reply #82 - Dec 19th, 2013 at 4:53pm
 
Mathew wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 3:56pm:
|dev|null wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 3:44pm:
Sparky wrote on Dec 17th, 2013 at 6:14pm:
The aborigines wouldn't like an Asian takeover. What do you think of that?


Couldn't have been much worse after you consider what white people did to them....   Grin Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin Grin


>"race doesnt exist"
>Cant be as bad as what those evil white people did to them

You must be a troll. I find it hard to believe you genuinely believe the contradictory things you're saying. God it must be nice to be that ignorant. You can literally win any debate with your dynamic double-logic.


Nothing contradictory there.  Race as a concept as used by racists is a social construct.  It has no basis in science.  It is all about how you and others react to the superficial physical differences between individuals and groups, rather than there being any substantial difference.   

As for what white people did to the Aborigines, are you completely oblivious to the history of white colonisation of this continent?   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #83 - Dec 19th, 2013 at 5:15pm
 
|dev|null wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 4:53pm:
Mathew wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 3:56pm:
|dev|null wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 3:44pm:
Sparky wrote on Dec 17th, 2013 at 6:14pm:
The aborigines wouldn't like an Asian takeover. What do you think of that?


Couldn't have been much worse after you consider what white people did to them....   Grin Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin Grin


>"race doesnt exist"
>Cant be as bad as what those evil white people did to them

You must be a troll. I find it hard to believe you genuinely believe the contradictory things you're saying. God it must be nice to be that ignorant. You can literally win any debate with your dynamic double-logic.


Nothing contradictory there.  Race as a concept as used by racists is a social construct.  It has no basis in science.  It is all about how you and others react to the superficial physical differences between individuals and groups, rather than there being any substantial difference.   

As for what white people did to the Aborigines, are you completely oblivious to the history of white colonisation of this continent?   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Are you even more oblivious to a recolonization that is occurring today, hence the topic of the thread. Another typical liberal double standard. Thankfully a rebuttal to your claim has already been created.

anglonz.blogspot.co.nz/2013/09/immigration-supposed-hypocrisy-of-post.html
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Reply #84 - Dec 19th, 2013 at 6:44pm
 
Mathew wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 3:17pm:
ian wrote on Dec 14th, 2013 at 10:39pm:
Any anthropologist will tell you that there is greater genetic diversity within racial groups than there is between them. So your argument is moot.


"moot"? I think that statement you just made was pretty moot as this article is discussing the opposition to Australia being irreversibly, demographically altered in just decades, which is not strictly a racial thing, but obviously a cultural issue.

But I wonder how it would go down if you told African Americans or Aborigines not to bother preserving or even ACKNOWLEDGING their culture and heritage because there's "no such thing as race", or to tell Israeli Jews (or even Palestinians) that Race is just a social construct , because the obvious physical differences due to geographic adaptation for over 40,000 years on different continents is just a trivial silly thing that should be discarded in preference for a modern controversial government enforced assimilation experiment called the "melting pot", where everyone can instead look the same. yay! Who would not greet this with open arms for their entire nations? Only an evil racist monster who wants to murder another 6 million Jews and is holding back the natural progression and evolution of mankind.
This is what the average leftist believes. Its mind blowing really

If you want to claim that race doesn't exist even though this is a cultural issue (Do you believe in culture? its a social construct but very real) then why is it nobody is denying that blacks have superior lower body strength and EXCEL in all running competitions, basketball etc, or that east Asians and Ashkenazi Jews have excellent IQs? Of COURSE leftists dont vehemently deny this, because its the warm fuzzy feeling received from the indoctrination. But when it comes to the most basic human rights, and fundamental self-determination of a very distinguishable Australian Anglo-celtic ethnic group, who have established a culture and heritage over 200 years, known today as Australia, then liberals revert to "race doesnt exist" or "the very proud natives lived here before you so paybacks a bitch!".

Quite funny how people bicker on these sites like Children. I have to admit though, these leftists take this very cosy reality-denying moral highground and just accuse people of "racism" using political correctness to stunt a debate which is located in the section "Multiculturalism and Race". Why dont you assume for a moment that we're not all children, and nobodies going "um mum mum im telling the teacher on you!" and actually address the points? Seriously, I dont CARE if im labeled a racist. Do Leftists really believe that single word is capable of just shutting up real opposition to an actual controversial nation-altering experiment?  oh wait, it actually does. Very sad indeed


as Hot Breath states, race is a social construct. Anyone who has any understanding of biology and science knows this, it has nothng to with poiltical correctness. Your post shows you do not understand the difference between culture and racial grouping which is a basic if you even want to be in a debate like this. You have no point even though you think you do.
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Reply #85 - Dec 19th, 2013 at 6:46pm
 
At some point we have to draw an arbitrary line between what we consider 'ours' and 'theirs'. Physical boundaries such as oceans or mountains and recognizable variations in race and culture are obvious starting points. Until we reach some kind of pan-human agreement on how to conduct ourselves, it will always have to be that way. Everything else is semantics.

Even though race isn't technically real in the sense that it's most often used, we cannot ignore the fact that we have percieved and acted upon it as being real for millenia. That will have had some effect on at least our evolutionary memology, which would almost certainly have had biological implications. Look at the caste system in india as a vestige of that.
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Reply #86 - Dec 19th, 2013 at 8:27pm
 
Now race doesn't exist. That's a new one .
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Reply #87 - Dec 19th, 2013 at 8:30pm
 
Winston Smith wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 6:46pm:
At some point we have to draw an arbitrary line between what we consider 'ours' and 'theirs'. Physical boundaries such as oceans or mountains and recognizable variations in race and culture are obvious starting points. Until we reach some kind of pan-human agreement on how to conduct ourselves, it will always have to be that way. Everything else is semantics.

Even though race isn't technically real in the sense that it's most often used, we cannot ignore the fact that we have percieved and acted upon it as being real for millenia. That will have had some effect on at least our evolutionary memology, which would almost certainly have had biological implications. Look at the caste system in india as a vestige of that.


Anti-white leftists have no problem acknowledging ethnicity among non-white "minority" groups and protecting them with ethnic rights and representation, and avoiding ethnic cleansing and genocide of nations, but when it comes to the ethnic cleansing of western, white cultural/racial groups via mass immigration and forced assimilation policies, these basic human rights are ignored, and instead they argue that there is "no such thing" as anglo-celtic Australian majority, who shaped this post colonial nation. Why are they not entitled to simply preserve their nation, heritage and ethnicity?

To deny race exists is ridiculous, and stunts any kind of sensible discussion. Race and culture are entwined. If we lived in China for 200 years but remained fully of European descent, we would never be accepted as "chinese" this is just the reality of the world and nobody argues with China over this basic fact, but the policy and argument for western and European nations is that these European descended ethnic groups dont exist and therefore can be mass assimilated and ethnically cleansed and there would be no apparent consequences.

It appears we have some viewers from China. Interesting to see them listening in on Australians debating their own cultural and ethnic suicide and the conversion into an Asian Australia.
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Reply #88 - Dec 19th, 2013 at 8:33pm
 
ian wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 6:44pm:
as Hot Breath states, race is a social construct.

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Reply #89 - Dec 19th, 2013 at 8:37pm
 
It doesn't matter, we lost the battle and will be consigned to history. We were too divided and individualistic. We didn't have what it takes to continue living our vision. Now we are paying the ultimate price.

Hahaha, eat poo you stupid whites!

You are about to go extinct.
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