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Labor fears Pink Batts inquiry findings
Dec 22^nd, 2013 at 5:23pm

http://au.news.yahoo.com/qld/a/20444588/pink-batts-inquiry-set-to-begin/

A Royal Commission of Inquiry into deaths and injuries linked to the Rudd government's home insulation scheme will begin on Monday in Brisbane.

Four young men died while working on the roll-out of the so-called "pink batts" scheme set up in 2009.

Three of the men were Queenslanders Matthew Fuller, Rueben Barnes, Mitchell Sweeney and the fourth New South Welshman Marcus Wilson.

Their families believe the $2.8 billion program - implemented by then-prime minister Kevin Rudd to inject money into the economy during the global financial crisis - was rushed and lacked adequate safety standards.

The inquiry will also investigate the affect the program had on the reputation and profits of long-standing home insulation businesses.

Heading the Royal Commission is barrister and commercial dispute resolution practitioner Ian Hanger, QC.

Mr Hange has until June 30 next year to provide a report of his findings and recommendations.

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Kat Gold Member Offline Socialism IS the answer. Posts: 17709 Everywhere and no-where Gender:	Re: Labor fears Pink Batts inquiry findings Reply #1 - Dec 22^nd, 2013 at 5:32pm Are you assholes going to continue to waste money on this blatant witch-hunt until you find someone who'll rule in your favour? Pathetic!
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Cliff48 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics /> Posts: 2109 Canberra Gender:	Re: Labor fears Pink Batts inquiry findings Reply #2 - Dec 22^nd, 2013 at 5:35pm Being the 9th enquiry I think there are more lib mp's in fear of it being shown up for the witch hunt that it is.
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38767 Gender:	Re: Labor fears Pink Batts inquiry findings Reply #3 - Dec 22^nd, 2013 at 5:36pm Another bullshite Thread title. I expect Grendel to come along shortly and condemn it.
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Re: Labor fears Pink Batts inquiry findings
Reply #4 - Dec 22^nd, 2013 at 5:39pm

Maqqa wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2013 at 5:23pm:

Their families believe the $2.8 billion program - implemented by then-prime minister Kevin Rudd to inject money into the economy during the global financial crisis - was rushed and lacked adequate safety standards.

I think if that was my son I too would want REAL answers..not just findings..I dont know what will give these families peace but a Royal is about as high as it can go...so I am glad for them an d I trust it will bring them answers to their questions....not ours.

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Re: Labor fears Pink Batts inquiry findings
Reply #5 - Dec 22^nd, 2013 at 5:42pm

cods wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2013 at 5:39pm:

Maqqa wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2013 at 5:23pm:

Their families believe the $2.8 billion program - implemented by then-prime minister Kevin Rudd to inject money into the economy during the global financial crisis - was rushed and lacked adequate safety standards.

I think if that was my son I too would want REAL answers..not just findings..I dont know what will give these families peace but a Royal is about as high as it can go...so I am glad for them an d I trust it will bring them answers to their questions....not ours.

You've HAD the answers.

More than once.

But it wasn't the answer you lot wanted to hear.

Hence, the witch-hunt.

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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: Labor fears Pink Batts inquiry findings Reply #6 - Dec 22^nd, 2013 at 5:43pm ..The inquiry doesnt include all of the deaths and injuries in the building industry...just a short period of installing insulation in roofs Burn the witch
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Re: Labor fears Pink Batts inquiry findings
Reply #7 - Dec 22^nd, 2013 at 6:23pm

cods wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2013 at 5:39pm:

Maqqa wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2013 at 5:23pm:

Their families believe the $2.8 billion program - implemented by then-prime minister Kevin Rudd to inject money into the economy during the global financial crisis - was rushed and lacked adequate safety standards.

I think if that was my son I too would want REAL answers..not just findings..I dont know what will give these families peace but a Royal is about as high as it can go...so I am glad for them an d I trust it will bring them answers to their questions....not ours.

Rubbish, cods. There already have been a zillion Inquiries including several Inquests. But......no worries, Abbott will go ahead with this, and we all know now what the outcome will be.

In all of political history, no Government has initiated a Royal Commission without first ensuring the outcome. They decide the 'Terms of Reference,' they decide who leads it, and they decide who 'Counsel Assisting' will be.

The outcome will be..............no-one will be charged with any offence, just like the Cole Commission into the Building and Construction Industry which cost $70M (+-) and not one individual charged* (or relevant legislation) coming out of it. (*It was mooted some Union bloke who ignored a subpoena was to be charged, but I can't find any confirmation of that.)

Lawyers made zillions, Cole who made plus zillions truly retired, and then abrogated himself from his absurd conclusions with the pathetic 'who me?' excuse, "I am retired now."

....and the dumb thing is, not even political advantage was taken by Hayseed's mob.......probably because Alan Jones made many programmes condemning the Findings, describing the several Volumes as having best use as 'door stoppers.'

You need to understand that Royal Commissions are nothing more than money handed to lawyers to produce exactly what the payer wants.

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Re: Labor fears Pink Batts inquiry findings
Reply #8 - Dec 22^nd, 2013 at 6:35pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2013 at 6:23pm:

cods wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2013 at 5:39pm:

Maqqa wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2013 at 5:23pm:

Their families believe the $2.8 billion program - implemented by then-prime minister Kevin Rudd to inject money into the economy during the global financial crisis - was rushed and lacked adequate safety standards.

I think if that was my son I too would want REAL answers..not just findings..I dont know what will give these families peace but a Royal is about as high as it can go...so I am glad for them an d I trust it will bring them answers to their questions....not ours.

Rubbish, cods. There already have been a zillion Inquiries including several Inquests. But......no worries, Abbott will go ahead with this, and we all know now what the outcome will be.

In all of political history, no Government has initiated a Royal Commission without first ensuring the outcome. They decide the 'Terms of Reference,' they decide who leads it, and they decide who 'Counsel Assisting' will be.

The outcome will be..............no-one will be charged with any offence, just like the Cole Commission into the Building and Construction Industry which cost $70M (+-) and not one individual charged* (or relevant legislation) coming out of it. (*It was mooted some Union bloke who ignored a subpoena was to be charged, but I can't find any confirmation of that.)

Lawyers made zillions, Cole who made plus zillions truly retired, and then abrogated himself from his absurd conclusions with the pathetic 'who me?' excuse, "I am retired now."

....and the dumb thing is, not even political advantage was taken by Hayseed's mob.......probably because Alan Jones made many programmes condemning the Findings, describing the several Volumes as having best use as 'door stoppers.'

You need to understand that Royal Commissions are nothing more than money handed to lawyers to produce exactly what the payer wants.

+1 well said

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Re: Labor fears Pink Batts inquiry findings
Reply #9 - Dec 22^nd, 2013 at 6:37pm

Cliff48 wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2013 at 6:35pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2013 at 6:23pm:

cods wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2013 at 5:39pm:

Maqqa wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2013 at 5:23pm:

Their families believe the $2.8 billion program - implemented by then-prime minister Kevin Rudd to inject money into the economy during the global financial crisis - was rushed and lacked adequate safety standards.

I think if that was my son I too would want REAL answers..not just findings..I dont know what will give these families peace but a Royal is about as high as it can go...so I am glad for them an d I trust it will bring them answers to their questions....not ours.

Rubbish, cods. There already have been a zillion Inquiries including several Inquests. But......no worries, Abbott will go ahead with this, and we all know now what the outcome will be.

In all of political history, no Government has initiated a Royal Commission without first ensuring the outcome. They decide the 'Terms of Reference,' they decide who leads it, and they decide who 'Counsel Assisting' will be.

The outcome will be..............no-one will be charged with any offence, just like the Cole Commission into the Building and Construction Industry which cost $70M (+-) and not one individual charged* (or relevant legislation) coming out of it. (*It was mooted some Union bloke who ignored a subpoena was to be charged, but I can't find any confirmation of that.)

Lawyers made zillions, Cole who made plus zillions truly retired, and then abrogated himself from his absurd conclusions with the pathetic 'who me?' excuse, "I am retired now."

....and the dumb thing is, not even political advantage was taken by Hayseed's mob.......probably because Alan Jones made many programmes condemning the Findings, describing the several Volumes as having best use as 'door stoppers.'

You need to understand that Royal Commissions are nothing more than money handed to lawyers to produce exactly what the payer wants.

+1 well said

Agreed, and it's sad that those for whom it was intended will either not read it, or not comprehend it if they do.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58623 Here Gender:	Re: Labor fears Pink Batts inquiry findings Reply #10 - Dec 22^nd, 2013 at 6:52pm Labor fears Pink Batts inquiry findings What the fourth or fifth enquiry - most likely the same result. Nothing like the way the Liberals would justifiably fear an Iraq war enquiry.
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58623 Here Gender:	Re: Labor fears Pink Batts inquiry findings Reply #11 - Dec 22^nd, 2013 at 6:55pm Wasn't it LW who condemned someone on a dishonest title yesterday or the day before ??? Bet he turns up real soon with the Matty and Andrei twins to criticise Macca again.
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True Blue... Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3748 Gender:	Re: Labor fears Pink Batts inquiry findings Reply #12 - Dec 22^nd, 2013 at 6:59pm It's about time the truth came out and charges laid... How anyone can sweep these deaths under the carpet is despicable
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Re: Labor fears Pink Batts inquiry findings
Reply #13 - Dec 22^nd, 2013 at 7:01pm

True Blue... wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2013 at 6:59pm:

It's about time the truth came out and charges laid...

How anyone can sweep these deaths under the carpet is despicable Angry

The truth HAS 'come out'.

Several times.

You lot need to accept it, and STFU.

How anyone can justify this obvious and blatant witch-hunt is what's despicable.

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Re: Labor fears Pink Batts inquiry findings
Reply #14 - Dec 22^nd, 2013 at 7:06pm

A bald, ageing rock star might be able to provide a few documents to aid the Royal Commission.

Maqqa wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2013 at 5:23pm:

http://au.news.yahoo.com/qld/a/20444588/pink-batts-inquiry-set-to-begin/

A Royal Commission of Inquiry into deaths and injuries linked to the Rudd government's home insulation scheme will begin on Monday in Brisbane.

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I call bull$hit on that statement. When was Kevin Rudd ever the Prime Minister of Australia?

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The ALP, the progressive party, the party of ideas, the workers' friend, is the only Australian political party to roast four young Australians in roof cavities. SHAME! SHAME! SHAME!

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